Dick Allen

QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Jul 31, 2014 -> 11:39 AM) I think we should keep in mind that pitchers like Lackey and Price likely get moved first before teams are forced to fall back on looking at Danks. There are still better pitchers available at the moment. I don't think they are the same markets. It's like people shopping for a Rolls vs. people shopping for a Chevy. Danks will be able to be moved after today, if that is what it comes down to. I think the speculation about teams' interest in him probably had to do with a little BS and a lot of having the White Sox eat enough money it doesn't make sense to trade him. As to Rock's report all the bean counters are in place, it doesn't necessarily have to do with Danks being traded. A lot of stuff comes up today, and they have little time to go through the financial stuff. It's like they are on call.

IMO, if there was anything really close, Danks would not start today. It wouldn't be worth it. Something has to change significantly or John Danks will be a White Sox at the deadline.

QUOTE (Melissa1334 @ Jul 31, 2014 -> 10:05 AM) Passan said that's it, straight up. Millone is a lefty that was doing good and that's all you get , aaaa/back up of? Over 38% flyball rate. He would be toast at USCF.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jul 31, 2014 -> 09:40 AM) No idea why Boston wouldn't be able to extend a qualifying offer. Because he is not a 6 year free agent. He basically is guaranteed to be non-tendered.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 31, 2014 -> 09:35 AM) If they can offer him arbitration, can they make him a qualifying offer? If not, they won't get comp. They get the A's Competitive Balance pick.

Gomes I believe is usually platooned, but it may shock people his career OPS is only .007 lower than Cespedes. He's supposed to be huge in the clubhouse as well.

QUOTE (Dunt @ Jul 31, 2014 -> 09:11 AM) That is an INSANE haul for Lester Beane is going for it. The Jason Hammel acquisition blew up in his face. Sort of like Garza last season, regressing to the mean. Theo dumped him just in time.

QUOTE (scs787 @ Jul 31, 2014 -> 09:08 AM) I'm not sure how arbitration works for international free agents, but B-R says he's Arb eligible in 2016 and won't be a FA till 2018. Perhaps I'm wrong in thinking that's true. I think he had something in his contract. He's not exactly a high on base guy. A poster last year said Beane didn't like him and he thought he would be available. That was a nice scoop.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 31, 2014 -> 08:50 AM) Lester and Gomes for Cespedes Wow. There was a poster on here last year that knew Billy Beane's daughter or something and swore Beane didn't like Cespedes. I hope he or she comes on here to gloat.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jul 31, 2014 -> 08:40 AM) The odds of Danks getting hurt today are slim to none, but why even risk it if you a think a trade is near? The Red Sox scratched Jon Lester, the Cubs kept Bonaficio out of the lineup, why? Exactly. Just a minor tweak ruins the deal. Unlike when the Sox traded for Peavy and it really didn't matter if he was able to pitch right away, anyone trading for Danks wants to use him immediately. I do know one thing, if Danks did get hurt today and it came out that the Sox had a deal lined up but that injury killed it, somehow it would be 23's fault.

One of the best deadlines was 2004. I was watching ESPN as the clock struck zero. It's when the Cubs got Nomar and the Sox picked up Contreras. There was a flury in the last hour.

IMO, the bluff for Danks ends at gametime. If he is starting, he's not getting traded today. Even if he doesn't start, he may not, but not only for injury purposes, a team acquiring him wouldn't be able to use him for 5 days. If something is anywhere near close, I'm thinking they at the very least push him back. I still don't think today's deadline means all that much to the White Sox in terms of who they are trading. Their guys shouldn't have a problem getting through waivers and if they don't, they may let them go anyway.

QUOTE (sin city sox fan @ Jul 30, 2014 -> 07:44 PM) I am appalled that our pitching staff was set up to have Sale skip this series and let Noesi throw batting practice to the Tigers. We all know that it will be easier to win the division than make the wild card due to the number of teams to pass in the standings. A sweep of this series would have greatly enhanced those chances, but it appears now that the best we can do is win the series 2-1 (which only gains one game in the standings). Ventura should have had this series highlighted when setting up the rotation after the all star break and Sale should have been one of those on the mound (with Noesi not throwing this series). Just another example of mismanagement by our leader Robin and further proof we will never win a World Series with him at the helm. Not to mention leaving Leury Garcia out of the line up is beyond puzzling. This joker doesn't want to win.

QUOTE (DirtySox @ Jul 30, 2014 -> 03:23 PM) I'd hope Alexei is being dangled in the Yankees Danks talks. He would slot just fine in their gaping 2B hole. The White Sox could use a gaping hole at SS.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 30, 2014 -> 03:13 PM) Yeah, Masterson has to be pretty thrilled right now at not having the compensation monster hanging over his off season. After how he has performed this year, you have to figure if it was offered he would have taken it.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jul 30, 2014 -> 02:55 PM) I'll suck it, Too much informatioin.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jul 30, 2014 -> 02:20 PM) Cubs get Felix Doubrant from Red Sox for PTBNL O's close to acquiring Lester. Interesting. So if Boston isn't going to win, they are going to do their best to make sure the Yankees don't either. Rivalries are dope.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 30, 2014 -> 02:38 PM) While generally true, that isn't reason enough to dismiss all criticism. Especially in this day and age in sports, where quite a bit of value has come from those outside of the those who have played the game. Gamethreads are pretty well known for 100% strategic accuracy (assuming if something didn't work out, any alternative would 100% of the time). Of course the "mistake" isn't pointed out until after the fact.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 30, 2014 -> 02:34 PM) If the Yankess arent in play for Danks why do they keep calling? Crank call

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 30, 2014 -> 02:30 PM) Not true. You've always got to take it the other extreme. Look, I get it that being a manager in baseball is a fairly thankless job. When something goes wrong, the manager gets blamed, but when things go right, the player gets the credit. But these moves he makes and doesn't make, they go beyond that. This criticism isn't isolated either. I laugh hearing the handicappers here moaning about terrible he is. Message board managing is like paper trading. Everyone makes millions when they paper trade. All amateur managers would win 100+ games a year if they were calling the shots.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jul 30, 2014 -> 02:14 PM) For the same reason that the dodgers actually traded for Darwin Barney and the sox claimed Moises Sierra There is a difference in the money. The Cubs paid some money to get rid of Barnery. Sierra makes the minimum or close.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 30, 2014 -> 02:21 PM) Yeah, this is the argument one makes when his decisions turned out to be wrong. And yours and the others are from hindsight. If his decisions work out, it is probably what you would have done. If they don't, he's an idiot, it was obvious what he should have done, and there is no way the alternative would have failed.

QUOTE (VAfan @ Jul 30, 2014 -> 01:49 PM) I guess it's hard to argue with you and WiteSoxFan if you are so set on arguing absurdities. Santiago's splits lefty/lefty lefty/righty aren't all that different except for power. In the 4th inning of the 9th game of the year, I would rather have Robin have the starter facing the guy hitting .241 vs. bringing in a reliever who had pitched the day before to face their best hitter hitting .417. If that's absurd, then there really is no word to describe your anger towards the scenerio.

QUOTE (VAfan @ Jul 30, 2014 -> 01:38 PM) Were you at the game? Santiago v. Harper was 1000% better as a choice than a worn out Axelrod facing Ryan Zimmerman, when he'd already spent almost 100 pitches in 3.2 innings and wasn't going to give you anything more. Harper versus righties in 2013: .300, .388, .560 Harper versus lefties in 2013: .214, .327, .321 Enough said! That supports Ventura walking Harper to get to Zimmerman. Which is exactly what happened.

QUOTE (scs787 @ Jul 30, 2014 -> 01:39 PM) So by this logic, which is exremely flawed, Robin hasn't cost the Sox anything this year. And by that logic, Joe Maddon has been a good manager once the past 6 seasons.