Dick Allen

I can't believe the Sox were dumb enough to sign DWise when they had Jordan Danks around. He's a stud.

QUOTE (South Side Fireworks Man @ Jun 4, 2013 -> 07:22 PM) Is Gimenez hurt? Tomorrow is a day game. He will be in there. Peavy likes throwing to Flowers, although Gimenez caught a nice game with Jake on the mound a couple of starts ago.

Is Ryan Braun one of the dumbest people in America?

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 4, 2013 -> 07:39 PM) It would be STUPID for the Sox to pass on him, if he got to them on a waiver claim. Jones or Omogrosso could be sent down, and Santiago should really be starting for Charlotte anyway. Cooper would at least have a chance to work with him one-on-one and see what he could accomplish. This is where I disagree. If there is a simple fix, like there was with Thornton, then I'm sure the Sox would try to trade for him. If there is no simple or reasonable fix, he is a guy who throws 100 that sucks. There have been far more pitchers Cooper couldn't fix than he could fix. For their careers he allows 3 less baserunners per 50 innings than Omogrosso. I also think Rizzo would probably prefer moving him to an AL team just in case someone found something, although I wouldn't hold my breath.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 4, 2013 -> 07:27 PM) "You give up on these guys too quick and they turn out to be Joel Hanrahan on you," D.C. GM Mike Rizzo told 106.7 the FAN in D.C.'s Holden Kushner last summer, "and it makes you look pretty bad." When Henry Rodriguez struggled this Spring, Washington Nationals' manager Davey Johnson explained to reporters why he hadn't yet given up on the hard-throwing, control-challenged 26-year-old right-hander who had to either make the Nats' Opening Day roster this year or pass through waivers if the defending NL East Champs wanted to send him down to one of their affiliates. "If he's healthy, he's got three off-the-chart big league pitches," Johnson said. The Nationals' manager also joked about how Rodriguez's velocity was coming back even if the command wasn't quite there as he recovered from the elbow surgery which ended his 2012 campaign prematurely. "He's throwing 98 [mph], it just ain't going over," Johnson said. That has always been the problem with Rodriguez off course. A plus fastball, plus slider and command that comes and goes. Bat shattering and knee buckling at times, with a devastating change as well. 5.99 BB/9 in his career and 8.00 BB/9 in 18.0 IP in 2013 after tonight's game in Atlanta. federalbaseball.com I wouldn't be shocked if the team that picks him up tries to make him a starter in the minors...just to see if that helps him get his control and feel for pitching back. If any team wants to send him to the minors he will have to clear waivers. The choice, if you claim him or trade for him, is to have him on the roster and see if he can get some semblance of command or try to get him through waivers yourself. It seems to be a new trend. Guys getting dfa'd 3,4 times a year.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jun 4, 2013 -> 07:17 PM) Omogrosso gives up homers and doubles, strikes out less batters, more hits per 9. Like I said, you dont like him because he is wild. Thats fine, It doesnt make a difference to me, I like HRs arm better. But it probably doesnt matter anyways, I highly doubt he gets to the Sox Why would he have to get to the Sox? They could trade for him.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 4, 2013 -> 07:13 PM) Omogrosso had devastating stuff before his injuries. Every GM in baseball is going to take Rodriguez's "potential" over Brian's lowered ceiling. Didn't Rodriquez have elbow surgery? His k rate is down. Guys making near the minimum who are 26 years old who throw 100 and have a ton of potential generally don't get DFA'd. But if is that coveted some team will give up something for him. He can be traded.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jun 4, 2013 -> 07:09 PM) He is a lot better than Omogrosso. I am not a fan of Omogrosso at all Not if you actually look at the numbers. Omogrosso gives up doubles. This guy walks you and then wild pitches you to second.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jun 4, 2013 -> 06:57 PM) Again, where is anyone in this thread saying "drop Thornton and/or jones and pick this guy up!"? You obviously don't like him because he has control issues. That is fair, I understand that. But you are creating an imaginary argument and defending guys that aren't being attacked Who would you drop? He really is no better than Omogrosso.

Over their careers, Rodriquez's WHIP in .068 lower than Omogrosso's. as bad as Omogrosso has been, that is only 3.4 more runners he allows in 50 innings.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jun 4, 2013 -> 06:38 PM) I could care less if he wants or doesn't want HR. it's the complaining about the board, it is unnecessary What has he shown performance wise that is any better than the guys the Sox currently have who all work with Cooper everyday who get beatdown all the time? Iam sticking up for guys like Thornton and Jones. The are just as good or better than Rodriquez. This guy couldn't throw a strike before elbow surgery, and Flowers catching him would make Tyler and the M & Ms guy sick of each others company in a few weeks.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jun 4, 2013 -> 06:18 PM) Ok DA, as always you are always grumpy. I mean right. Its just a double standard. Nate Jones supposedly doesn't belong in the majors. If he were a Brewer and was DFAd, there would be threads wanting to pick him up.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jun 4, 2013 -> 06:14 PM) He is a righthander, so it isn't like anyone is clamoring for him to replace Thornton. He is considerably younger and cheaper, and throws very hard. If coop thought he could work with him and get a flaw fixed, I certainly wouldn't mind. Its more reason not to like him. In a world where everyone is looking for bullpen help, getting DFA,d is pretty telling.

It is funny a board who hates Matt Thornton would want this guy. He allows way more runners and runs.

QUOTE (flavum @ Jun 4, 2013 -> 03:28 PM) Sox 177-188 (-11) Cubs 210-202 (+8) Cubs 190-202 (-12)

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jun 4, 2013 -> 03:56 PM) So completely inaccurate. But keep throwing garbage at the wall and hope no one calls you out on it. Says the guy who was completely innaccurate and throwimg garbage at a wall hoping no one calls him out on it. You may want to go back and check. The post above was wrong. The Sox were -11. The Cubs were -12. Meathead.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jun 4, 2013 -> 03:02 PM) And their run differential suggests they've been very unlucky. They are a much better team than the White Sox. Coming into that series, their run differential and the Sox run differential were about the same. I think the Sox may have been a run or 2 better.

QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Jun 4, 2013 -> 10:44 AM) Yep, I get tired of the showing emotion=they care. Kids and parents have bought into that crap and amateur sports have become a cesspool of incivility. I didn't even think of that, but you are right, there is nothing uglier than someone coaching 10 year olds thinking he or she is playing for a world championship, and expecting them to perform like they are making millions.

I've seen a lot of posts wanting Ventura yelling and screaming at players and umpires, thinking that makes a difference. Where you work are the most effective bosses people who yell and scream at their employees if the results haven't been what they expect? Do you yourself respond better when being yelled at?

Asdrubal Cabrera just hurt his knee or leg. It looks like he may be out a while.

QUOTE (balfanman @ Jun 3, 2013 -> 09:03 AM) I agree with this. Now that Beckham is back middle infield should be better. I think the time has come to play your best centerfielder on a consistant basis. Put Jordan Danks in center everyday and see what he can do. It's not like you're going to lose much offensively the way DeAza & Viciedo have been playing. DeAza can play left while Viciedo splits time with DeAza (lf) & Dunn (dh) until one of them gets hot or proves that they need to play everyday somewhere. I think that this could relax our pitchers a bit as well because they wouldn't have to feel they need to strike everyone out and pitch more to contact knowing that they have a defense that can help them out. Ironically, Jordan Danks made an awful play in CF yesterday. As bad as the defense has been, if they could score more runs, they still would be OK. I don't know how inserting Jordan Danks into the line up every day will make the offense better. The Sox have already lost 10 games in which they allowed 3 runs or less.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 3, 2013 -> 08:26 AM) Viciedo wasn't a gold glover, but he's taken a small step backwards so far this year. I agree with that, but it's not like it's been a huge difference. The problem is up the middle the Sox have been pretty bad. De Aza, I don't know what happened to him, and again, it really began last year. No Beckham has made 2B an awful postion defensively for the Sox and whoever plays there, the ball seems to find. And Flowers has been terrible, he has reverted to the defensive model he had when he was acquired. Having Dunn use a glove more often hasn't helped either.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 3, 2013 -> 07:57 AM) The remarkable thing continues to be...these same players were much, much better defensively last year. It's like they forgot to practice it. De Aza began sliding when he said he preferred LF last year. Viciedo has never been and will never be a gold glover. Ramirez has been fine as has Rios. Other than that, it's been different players. Gillaspie has been really good. Keppinger and Greene and Dunn and Flowers have been awful. The only one who had a reputation as a good defensive player was Flowers and that was in a part time, very limited role. He has struggled defensively before. As bad as the defense has been, if they had any type of offense up until now, they would be battling for the lead in the division. It's crazy. They are closer to first place than the Nationals.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 3, 2013 -> 08:01 AM) Who's the one hitting too many fly balls? DeAza, one would assume. It certainly isn't Dunn.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jun 3, 2013 -> 07:42 AM) KW gets blame for the Dunn signing, because he let Ozzie run the asylum. There was zero reason that Mark Kotsay should have been an everyday player, yet KW let Ozzie make the decision. In turn, the Sox didn't keep Thome, who killed them in Minnesota, and they panicked in need for a slugging lefty in the middle of the order and signed Dunn. This is the truth. Thome was willing to play 2010 for peanuts. Ozzie didn't want a DH. Thome has a huge year in Minnesota, the next year the Sox need a DH, they sign Dunn. If they had kept Thome, they would have re-signed him assuming he was anywhere near as effective as he was with the Twins, and Dunn goes elsewhere. There were red flags with Dunn when he was signed. He was pretty bad the second half of 2010. There was, however, nothing that would suggest he would have been as bad as he's been. I'm sure there were teams that stayed away because they thought he was going to fall off, but this much? No way.