Dick Allen

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Jun 3, 2013 -> 07:07 AM) When Wise went on the DL. A guy whose age and weight are both very close to mine shut out the Sox on Saturday. Something needs to happen. You need to work on some secondary pitches. You're leaving money on the table.

QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Jun 2, 2013 -> 06:56 PM) Thank god. Next up: Casper Wells I wouldn't be surprised to see Wells get a decent look vs LHP before they give up on him.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 2, 2013 -> 06:47 PM) Will probably clear waivers, wind up at Charlotte, not be "He gone", and leave the team with another opening on the 40 man. If he is in Charlotte, he gone as far as I am concerned.

Beckham is back as Geene is dfa'd.

Hahn was on the radio this morning speaking about meetings and basically saying changes were imminent. A week ago the Sox were back to .500 and things were realy looking up. Now it seems like they have been awful for a decade.

The Sox have already lost 10 games where they allowed 3 runs or less. If Ventura is abad manager, isn't Leland worse? With all their talent, he is only 5 1/2 games ahead of the Sox.

Seriously, how many runs did anyone think the Sox were going to score today anyway?

9 runs in 6 games.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 2, 2013 -> 06:03 PM) Because his presence deflects attention from KW's mistakes, and JR. After all, it's impossible "hate" Robin Ventura. What you'll end up with is apathy, frustration and discontent, which you're already seeing evidence of. Hard to get upset with Ventura, he was put in an impossible situation, he did a great job for most of last season under the circumstances but he hasn't been able to make adjustments. The team doesn't seem to be responding and hasn't since last season. Sure, 50% of it's a lack of talent...but Ventura's managing hasn't gotten better. There's no way anyone who has followed the team closely the last 1 1/2 years could come to that conclusion. Lack of talent is 50%? Exactly who manages this team to a better record?

Remember when Anorexei used to hit homers? That was awesome.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 2, 2013 -> 05:54 PM) There's an atmosphere being created where the errors are either 1) being tolerated or 2) snowballing and defining this team/season. At a certain point, managers are held accountable for those kinds of things. In a society where a lot of people get a kick out of people except themselves gettimg fired, I can assure you the White Sox are more than happy with Robin. If you really think this is all on him, you might want to find a different hobby because he won't be going anywhere for a while.

Jordan Danks kicked the ball. It has to be Ventura's fault, correct?

QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Jun 2, 2013 -> 05:44 PM) These guys flailing at pitches is just soooooo bush league. Doesn'matter who your hitting coach or manager is, if you have Danks, Flowers, Greene you first 3 hitters of an inning, there's a really good chance you will have to wait at least one more inning to score.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 2, 2013 -> 05:23 PM) But wouldn't you agree these things have happened far too often this season (after rarely happening last year)? A lot of stupid things have happened, but defensively Keppinger/Greene for Beckham has made a huge difference. Dunn for Konerko has made a big difference. Flowers for AJ hasn't had the defensive upgrade I read on this board was guaranteed. De Aza has slid since last year, and Viciedo while making some nice plays and throws, still is a guy who probably is never going to be a plus defender and he has very little experience. I think the coaches and manager have been fine. If your are going to be consistent, then you have to say Cooper needs to go because a good deal of the bullpen can't throw strikes.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 2, 2013 -> 05:19 PM) Yes they have a lot of bad players, but they also play the game incredibly stupid. It doesn't take skill to know how when to back up the catcher or when to throw to the lead base or not. Sale knows he is supposed to back up the play. He went back there but for some reason, the first base side. I don't see how his stupidity is on any coach or manager.

QUOTE (flavum @ Jun 2, 2013 -> 05:17 PM) Beckham didn't play today, so maybe he said he's ready and he'll be activated tomorrow night. I think he was sceduled to take it off . It doesn't mean he is or isn't on his way to Seattle.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 2, 2013 -> 05:15 PM) Cause he is a terrible player. What I don't understand is you say the Sox are loaded with bad plyers. Have a lot of players who simply can't hit. Then say the coaches are responsible for the bad record. I really don't know of anyone who can coach bad players to a great result.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 2, 2013 -> 05:07 PM) Why would Ventura want to come back next year? Why would anyone want him back? I would like to know of a guy who would have this roster playing a lot better right now. The Sox still have a chance even though one of the greatest teams, from what I have read here, ever assembled is in their division. He will be back. They wanted to give him an extension. He has a contract for next season.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Jun 2, 2013 -> 01:00 PM) I hate this kind of thing. It's a CYA move by Hahn. I actually agree with you. If Hahn wants to vaguely suggest someone is not giving the required effort, why hasn't this been already dealt with one way or another? Seems he may be suffering from a lack of effort as well.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 1, 2013 -> 06:56 PM) Send him to AAA and stretch him out for when Peavy is traded. He doesn't need to be stretched out. He has shown he can throw triple figure pitches pretty quickly.

Here come the Santiago excuses. He sucked today.

Throw a strike.

Hector Houdini so far.

For the love of God Hector

This umpire sucks.