Dick Allen

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 1, 2013 -> 06:42 PM) Dunn just missed that, of course Usually he misses by quite a lot.

QUOTE (Jake @ Jun 1, 2013 -> 06:35 PM) Dayan had done quite a bit of movement too, levels and positions Gordon Beckham was moved around a lot too.

Gimenez made that inning.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 1, 2013 -> 06:31 PM) What player has had his role changed so many times in 1 1/3rd seasons in Sox history? Name him. His job is to get guys out. 2-0 and he is not in the stretch.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 1, 2013 -> 06:25 PM) This was predictable. Those two sliders weren't well delivered. Stupid to start Jones this inning, just terrible managing. The excuses for Santiago are imcredible. Nothing is ever his fault. Walks a guy...he was in the stretch. Well, he better learn to throw strikes from the stretch. If he can't pitch effectively with runners on base, he isn't the HOFer some people seem to think he is.

There's something about striking someone out with gas that makes it more legit. Getting blown away with gas, is way more demoralizing than missing a curve or change.

I knew Keppinger was supposed to be below average defensively, but I had no idea this much below average.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 1, 2013 -> 05:43 PM) It's funny watching Wells try to hit RHP. Equally as amusing watching Keppinger with a glove.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 1, 2013 -> 04:53 PM) De Aza is not long for this organization if they're going to keep Viciedo in LF. Just like they knew Rios wasn't a CF, it seems they know he's not one either. He actually was doing pretty well out there last year until he said he preferred to play LF. Since that came out, he has looked pretty bad defensively. Even in LF.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 1, 2013 -> 04:02 PM) Victor Martinez starting to heat up for DET. That's not a good sign. Well, we advanced the runner to 3rd. Need to get this back to a one-run game or... Yeah his OPS is almost.600.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 1, 2013 -> 03:37 PM) Gillaspie. A's announcers claiming Viciedo prefers to play 3B. Not 100% sure where they got that one. Colon first AL pitcher with two shutouts in a season at age 40 or older since Dennis Eckersley. 2nd oldest in OAK history to throw a shutout. Don Sutton beat the White Sox 18 years ago...was a bit older than Bartolo. Considering Eckersley didn't start a game after he was 32 years old, i think you have some bad info.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 1, 2013 -> 03:37 PM) Gillaspie. A's announcers claiming Viciedo prefers to play 3B. Not 100% sure where they got that one. Colon first AL pitcher with two shutouts in a season at age 40 or older since Dennis Eckersley. 2nd oldest in OAK history to throw a shutout. Don Sutton beat the White Sox 18 years ago...was a bit older than Bartolo. Considering Eckersley didn't start a game after he was 32 years old, i think you have some bad info.

If Thornton came in to start this inning and they scored, Ventura would have been roasted.

A wasted performance. What a lost opportunity this week.

And this game is ova.

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ May 31, 2013 -> 10:55 PM) Because the chances of it making a difference are slim to none? Of course it wouldn't but..... I have been reading for years on this board how hitters failing is the hitting coach's fault, and pitchers struggling is on the manager

I do womder why ther are no fire Manto threads.

QUOTE (DukeofChicagoA1 @ May 31, 2013 -> 10:46 PM) I think I heard the royals just recently replaced their hitting coach with George Brett. I believe Stone said it earlier but I could be wrong. If that is the case, we should fire Manto and hire Thomas. Yeah, emulating the Royals seems to be a good idea.

QUOTE (BigEdWalsh @ May 31, 2013 -> 10:42 PM) Should get rid of Gillaspie, he sucks. Anyone who doesn't think so is a SOXTALK MEATHEAD.

QUOTE (Heads22 @ May 31, 2013 -> 10:38 PM) I think his arm probably has an average age of 30, what with the injections and all. I just remember him leaving a game in the 1990s with a shoulder or elbow problem, and its not like he takes care of himself. Stem cells may be the way to go for some guys who can't make it back conventionally.

There is no way I would have though Colon would be pitching in the majors at 40.

The Sox are so stupid letting Axelrod start. He has allowed a hit this game.

I just read Josh Beckett's fingers are still numb. He may have to retire.

QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ May 31, 2013 -> 01:10 PM) But you will gladly take finishing in second or third every year just because it means being competitive for most of the year? If things go right, it means playoffs. Why do you gladly want to finish in last? Is Mark Appel that much better than Chris Sale? I posted a list of Tampa #1 picks over the years. Price and Longoria were studs. No one else provided much help to the Rays. And they are considered ultra-successful developing players. I don't know who made everyone think in order for an organization to be good at developing players, they have to have an awful major league team. It simply isn't true. This isn't the NBA. I also don't know who also said getting bad and selecting high every draft guarantees you future success. The reality is if the Sox tanked like some around here want them to, in 5 or 6 or more years, finishing 2nd or 3rd would make them do cartwheels.

I hope they never go into a full rebuild, and everyone that wants that probably will hate it. Just for fun I went back to my 2010 Baseball Prospectus and took a look at their top 100 prospects. They listed 101 that year. Strasburg was #1, Mike Trout #52. If you traded your entire organization for those 101 players, while you would have a couple of studs, I don't think you have a playoff team. Considering the state of the Sox farm system, getting rid of productive players for prospects will probably mean at least 6 years of being really bad.