Dick Allen

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 30, 2013 -> 06:58 AM) Wow, how often does the that people ask for, actually happen? It happened with Mackowiak and Alex Cintron. Let's face it, this guy may be around a couple of weeks at most, but they need a RH bat and there is slim pickings in Charlotte.

If Broussard wants to call people out for living in sin, can't he call out about 95% of the NBA? I don't understand why someone has to hide or be ashamed of being gay. It is what they are. Some guys like big boobs, some guys like blondes, some guys like guys. Collins isn't a very significant player, and Broussard would never really have to talk to him. If it were a really big name, he would have said nothing today.

QUOTE (ewokpelts @ Apr 16, 2013 -> 01:55 PM) I still think the Cubs will be bunking with the sox. It may even be as early as 2014. Why else would the red line project get fast tracked? The Red Line project is supposed to run from May through October. By opening day 2014, many of the same slow zones will be back.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 29, 2013 -> 07:57 AM) Scott Merkin ‏@scottmerkin 9h One preseason worry with CWS was they were too right-handed offensively. But with Viciedo's injury, they became overly left-handed ... in the OF off the bench. So the replacement for Tekotte might be a right-handed bat instead of an eighth reliever The White Sox 40-man roster is at 40 so if the move came from outside there would have to be another corresponding move to make room Casper Wells is available again. Edit. He is a Brooklyn Nets fan. If he was good, it could be ignored, but he's not that good.

QUOTE (Cali @ Apr 29, 2013 -> 01:14 AM) Since 1993 an I'm choosing that since its the most amount of playoff appearances in a 20 year gap (A whopping grand total of FOUR WHOLE TIMES! --- Christ this franchise is pretty terrible when you really think about it haha) They have never made the playoffs with a losing record in April. Never. History just not on their side. Not saying a winning April guarantees playoffs (last year for example) but historically it helps a whole hell of a lot. Might want to check your "facts".

I don't know why the Sox would ever release Floyd. He's awful in April. When has that been news? He will be awful in May. He then usually puts 2 months together of HOF performance before he turns awful again. Personally, I would have traded him back when people here were comparing him to Halladay, but the good news is, if the Sox have to bail, he should be really hot at the trade deadline when the clock is just about at midnight and he is a pumpkin again.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Apr 27, 2013 -> 05:14 PM) I don't know about you but I want my team to make the post season and win titles. I guess you can hang your hat on having an impressive month of baseball. The post was a response to the post that of course said the team was doomed when and if they start to hit. Said when the team started to hit in 2010 the pitching faltered. They went 26-5.

QUOTE (Cali @ Apr 27, 2013 -> 04:39 PM) Unfortunately we all know that when the bats starts heating up, the pitching will take a nosedive. It's just that Sox luck. Happened in '10 too... Yeah that 26-5 streak really sucked. We really couldn't b**** about the team foe over a month.

QUOTE (Heads22 @ Apr 27, 2013 -> 02:11 PM) The pitching staff is not going to be what keeps us from winning games.... The point is if they continue to be this stellar, the Sox will win a lot of games.

According to Ken Rosnethal, one teams internal formula has the White Sox pitching staff the most productive in baseball. If that means the best and it hold up, the doom and gloomers are going to be unhappy watching the Sox win more than they lose.

Things would have been pretty much the same most likely. The big difference on this board is while the Sox srtill aren't scoring runs, its not blamed on the hitting coach anymore. If you really want a better offense, you need better players. If hitting coaches made the difference in every hitter some believe they do, they would be making $25 million a year. They would be far more valuable than any player.

QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Apr 27, 2013 -> 12:39 PM) Now you're just being weird. Why take this stance? Anti-Cubs? It's also a lie, Hahn uses this stuff. He also uses numbers, graphs, charts as much as any coach in the business. A guy can steal 3rd without a guy attempting to steal 2nd. Even if Rios was stealing 3rd from the dugout, it doesn't mean Konerko would have been running. We've covered this multiple times. You using "Paul wasn't running" isn't evidence it wasn't from the dugout. Until we heard who it was, the assumption is it was called. Paul not going doesn't do anything to counter that. That's funny, because he uses numbers to make most of his decisions. He's not a gut manager. Why don't you just admit you were wrong? You are out here ripping Hawk for being wrong, but when you were blatantly wrong because you have a specific target you want to blame, you refuse to admit it. A guy can steal third without the runner on first moving, but given a LH batter is up, Konerko was not being looked at, he had a far better shot at second than Rios did,at 3rd. BTW,Managers have been using numbers far before sabermetrics came to be when making decisions. Even the the teams that use sabermetrics the most employ advanced scouts. Shifts like the one used when Dunn bats have been part of the game for years. And if you don't think Maddon ever uses his "gut" you are wrong yet again.

QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Apr 27, 2013 -> 09:59 AM) Fantastic? Hardly. Yes, throw would go to 2nd base there. They are slamming Hawk because Hawk is a buffoon. Not embrace stupidity? Why does that have to turn into a rallying cry? I wish they threw to second. The guy on first wasn't running. Rios would have been safe. I also pointed that out as a reason it wasn't called feom the dugout, you said it was stupid. Its funny, you were wrong, yet still won't even admit it.

QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Apr 26, 2013 -> 10:57 PM) Ventura has had people steal with Dunn at bat, which has been covered on this board and makes no sense. If Konerko's going, you can guess where the throw is going to take the guaranteed out. Again, the whole point of this thing is Hawk is willfully refusing information that can help assess talent, chances to win, etc. It's beyond ignorant and stupid. The fact that the Sox are going to try to rally around it makes it worse. Plus, the Sox front office uses it to help them put together the team! It doesn't make sense on any level. But hey, let's trot out this TWTW s***, because that's what matters. Everyone take a few minutes and read this. http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article....articleid=20371 Not 3rd base. Again you willfully disregarded information that turned out to be correct just because you want to always blame Ventura. You wouldn't even consider it. said it was stupid. It is exactly the same thing you are slamming Hawk for doing. Its pretty funny you still can't see it. Also BP is obviously going to slam Hawk. They are in the sabermetric business. I don't think anyone here believes Hawk's total dismissal of sabermetrics is correct.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Apr 26, 2013 -> 03:02 PM) Wasn't all the talk this year about how this is the worst draft in decades? Why do people get so upset about it? Was that for the entire draft or just skill positions? I supposed if its the worst draft for skill positions it would make it the worst draft overall.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Apr 26, 2013 -> 02:50 PM) I have to disagree, you are looking at this from a "everything will go right perspective." The problem is that Kyle Long has historically been a guy that "everything will go wrong", whether its getting kicked out of FSU, dui, etc, Kyle Long does not have a history you can hang your hat on. Once again he could become a HOF, just seems like an extreme risk on a 1st round pick, when it was not really necessary. Hes one of the few players in this draft where its possible due to circumstances outside of football, never even plays a down. I think that is beyond dramatic. Considering how little he's played, and his past transgressions,the fact that he was considered a late first/second round selection would indicate a tremendous upside. I think the Bears feel they have a guy who will anchor their OL for years. If he's a bust, he's no different than many other Bears #1 picks.

The White Sox draft football players with their first round picks. The Bears draft baseball players.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Apr 26, 2013 -> 02:27 PM) Its pretty obvious the dream is for him to be a tackle, the problem is that he is extremely raw, with very little on field playing time. I just am not really a big fan of that strategy, unless you are planning to go 5-11 or worse, and then who cares, get him in there for 16 games and get experience. But right now the bears just keep being in the middle, which is the worst place for a team. I don't think his rawness hurts him as much in football as it would in other sports. If he's as gifted and good as they say, they can coach him up and he should be decent, which is an upgrade for the Bears, in short order. If they do plan to play him at G, it makes me wonder if a guy like Carimi is out the door. The beat writers made it a point at the end of the season to mention that Carimi was their choice to be most improved in 2013. Apparently he still wasn't healthy. Maybe he's never going to be healthy.

Tony Wise, Wanne's buddy, worked with Long at the Senior Bowl. He said he would put him at LT. Thinks he's as good as the #1 pick.

Besides Jeremy Brown, does Billy Beane draft players based on sabermetrics? To me, that would be crazy.

If the Sox can score 10 runs tonight, they will have scored the exact same number of runs through 22 games as the team a lot of people want them to be like. Their current opponent.

QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Apr 26, 2013 -> 01:45 PM) Ventura has made weird moves before, so situation didn't matter. I could turn that around. The situation in which Rios ran should be ample proof Rios didn't go on his own. Wouldn't Rios understand the situation? Or is his TWTW not high enough? Konerko was on first, of course he wouldn't move as he'd be thrown out by about 40 feet. Doesn't do anything. Because someone can look at what it tells the WAR is of a particular player, compare it to other stats for that player and other players, and come to their own conclusion that it's pretty accurate at valuing players. If WAR wasn't an accurate measure of anything, it wouldn't be so prevalent and would be dismissed anyway. I don't think Ventura has ever had someone try to steal 3rd with Dunn at bat. Alex isn't known for his baseball acumen. If Rios was going, Konerko, as slow as he is, could have made second without a throw. It's tough to admit you saying something was stupid was wrong, but you were way off. If you don't know how WAR is calculated or any one of the other sabermetric numbers, I don't think you should consider yourself some knowledgable guy because you throw it around. In fact WAR is calculated in a couple different ways. BR and fangraphs have totally different numbers, and most say fangraphs is better, but a lot of the people who say it's better can't answer why. The poster who doesn't know how GDP is calculated but still trusts it, probably wouldn't go around saying he is an amateur economist.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Apr 26, 2013 -> 01:03 PM) There's also been a few decades of exposure to advanced metrics now, so it's expected that you'd see traditional scouting evaluations and saber-type evaluations converge--they're both influenced by each other and the results on the field. The fact is a good performance is a good performance. Hawk is IMO wrong for totally dismissing sabermetrics, but really he and Brian Kenny, who seems to be at the exact opposite end probably would rank players very similarly. In reality, although both sides would probably like to tell you it is, this isn't democrats vs. republicans.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 26, 2013 -> 12:59 PM) SABR guys hate Viciedo and Ramirez. Harrelson will tell you the ball just jumps or explodes off his bat....that's he got power to all fields, bat speed, blah blah blah. (What he won't explain is why that bat speed ends up only turning around fastballs or pitches between 75-90 MPH normally). Heck, most guys who don't walk very much aren't in favor with that crowd. They've programmed themselves to look more at OPS, RC/RC27, OBP or WAR. It can be overdone, to the point where anyone striking out less than 6 hitters per 9 IP in the minor leagues isn't given a second thought...for example. The one thing I will never understand saber-ly if that is even a term, is how offensively, strikeouts mean absolutely nothing, but for pitchers, they mean a heck of a lot.

QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Apr 26, 2013 -> 12:51 PM) You had no evidence to prove Rios went on his own or missed a sign. Until there's evidence to the contrary, it's assumed the manager made that move, because, well, that's what mangers do. If something happens on a field and 95% of the time the manger made it happen, and we have a situation in which something happened, what's more likely? 95>5? If Hawk knows so much about baseball, he should spend time talking about it on the air. All he does is talk about the good old days and yell catch-phrases. Try to teach people about the game. He doesn't, everything to him is just a mental mindset. TWTW. Give me a break. Yes, that wins games over all else. Theo Epstein didn't exactly have a background in baseball before he got into it. Who would you rather have running a team, a smart guy like him, or Hawk? Hawk may know intricacies but again, he ignores advanced metrics which help you understand the game better. He's only about the scouting angle - if that. He didn't even make that argument yesterday, he just talked about desire. Numbers don't lie. Saying Viciedo has the liveliest bat since Carlos Delgado (LOL) doesn't tell you how good he'll be or how good he is now. A deeper look into numbers will. But maybe he has a lot of TWTW, I don't know how to measure that. You don't have to know exactly how WAR is calculated as long as you know what it means and what it represents. That goes for any stat. I bet a lot of people couldn't tell me how slugging % is calculated, but they probably can look at some numbers of hitters and tell if they are below average, average, great, etc. The situation in which Rios ran should have been ample proof Ventura didn't send him. I pointed that out and the fact the runner on first, who isn't being looked at at all or held on, didn't move. You said it was stupid. If you don't know how WAR is calculated, how can you conclude it is an accurate measure?