Dick Allen

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ May 14, 2013 -> 08:55 PM) It's just funny to me how extreme both sides (pro-rebuild vs anti-rebuild) are going in attempting to make their case. There's like no in-between. Pro-rebuild: Stay the current course and continue to win 78-84 games for the next 20 years. Anti-rebuild: Tear it down and we're the Pirates and Royals for the next 20 years. I think if you want to tear it down, with the state of the farm system, it would be a minimum of 5 years before the Sox were relevant again, and that is drafting pretty well. They were awful for 4 years the last time they did a major rebuild with out much in the cubboard, and got McDowell, Ventura, Thomas and Fernandez in consecutive drafts. Even they didn't accomplish that "sustained success" that apparently now is a requirement.

Any chance ther is not a ground ball here?

Tank is an on base machine lately.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ May 14, 2013 -> 08:47 PM) 2033, you say? Wow. It could. KC and Pittsburgh were two of the most proud franchises in MLB. They have gone a long time without being relevant.

When you don't catch a ball because your glove breaks, that's a tough error.

Can't blame Dunn for that one.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ May 14, 2013 -> 08:32 PM) What constitutes selling everything and what are you trying to win? They can keep everyone they have this year add McCann, Utley, and Morales and they still aren't good enough to make the postseason. What you've done though is lock yourself into a ton of guaranteed money. Is the money coming out of your checking account? Don't you think Chairman Reinsdorf can cover the payroll? Why should Sox fans have to put up with a rebuild that could take 20 years?

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 14, 2013 -> 08:27 PM) He was quite clearly out on a replay shown on the Twins network, got him on the shoulder right before looking up at the ump. Don't show Hawk that reply. The Sox replay shows he missed him.

QUOTE (Noonskadoodle @ May 14, 2013 -> 08:26 PM) He was out easily. Brutal call. It would have helped if he actually had tagged him.

Tank is hitting RHP pretty well.

http://www.csnchicago.com/blog/dan-hayes/e...regame-practice

QUOTE (Marty34 @ May 14, 2013 -> 06:33 PM) What hitter in the upcoming 2014 free-agent do you build around? Morales or Granderson? At 31 and 33 respectively next year, I don't want them. All you want is guys that can't play. Keppinger at SS. Danks in Cf. You want a bad team so you can spend the entire summer complaining. You should be happy right now.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ May 14, 2013 -> 06:13 PM) No thanks, too old. You thought Josh Hamilton would have been a good signing if the Sox were trying to win. He is older than Morales and 2 months younger than Granderson.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 14, 2013 -> 06:18 PM) Detroit did it by striking gold on their trades for Cabrera and Austin Jackson/Scherzer and Sanchez/Fister. Iva Rodriquez, Maggs, Fielder, Martinez...they aren't a playoff team without shelling out big money for hitters. They wouldn't have been able to get Cabrera without taking Willis.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ May 14, 2013 -> 06:15 PM) And you can't rebuild the offense through free agency. How did Detroit do it? How did Boston do it during their heyday?

QUOTE (fathom @ May 14, 2013 -> 05:58 PM) Looking at the top 20 free agents for this coming season list on mlbtraderumors, and there aren't a lot of answers there to the holes the Sox are likely to have. Cano, Choo and Ellsbury aren't likely options due to the money they'll get from the usual big spenders. As I just mentioned, one of the main reasons to use someone like Peavy as a trade chip is to get back prospects that you could potentially then use to acquire everyday MLB offensive players. Granderson would love to play for the Sox. I know one of his best friends. Kendrys Morales would fit into Paulie's spot. There's a couple that probably wouldn't break the bank.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ May 14, 2013 -> 05:53 PM) you must be in the Dick Allen 2013 Jays camp. That's worked out splendidly. Isn't the Blue Jays record exactly where you want the Sox to be? Reasons to whine for a decade is heaven.

So this guy hits a ton of balls a mile in BP. When the games start, he whiffs. Sounds like a White Sox prospect.

Dom't get hurt Tyler.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ May 13, 2013 -> 07:02 PM) LOL! You have a plan - sign good free agents. Who are these good free agents? You are right as always Marty. The way to make the Sox better is to put Ramirez on waivers. LMAO. If they hit, which they might even do this year, they are a good team.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ May 13, 2013 -> 06:47 PM) LOL! You mean like the Jays did? Sure model your team after the Jays Dick Allen. That makes a lot of sense. BTW, who are these big contracts that teams will want to get rid of? LOL. Your way is the Pirates, Royals, jays prior to this year, Astros, Rays and Cubs model. Horrible teams for years and years. You would be in your glory moaning about them. One guy they could get for nothing is your boy, Josh Hamilton.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 13, 2013 -> 06:44 PM) A team like the Mets know they won't contend this year, but the talk is that they're trying to find ways to get Stanton. They know they have Harvey and Wheeler in their rotation for the next 5 years or so, and that is what they're trying to build their franchise around. Except for Wright, there is not much you would want from the Mets offensively.

QUOTE (Heads22 @ May 13, 2013 -> 06:36 PM) It almost sounded like Paulie wanted the day off. With the amount of time he is a DH, there must be something going on with him. I know he had a back issue.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 13, 2013 -> 06:39 PM) It seems like there are less teams than usual that might be looking to sell. It must be the optimism about TV rights, etc. Teams like the Mets and Padres are talking about adding payroll despite losing records this year. Because they aren't Soxtalk and aren't smart enough to realize if you are 5 games out on May 13th with a .225 team batting average, the season and the decade are over.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 13, 2013 -> 06:36 PM) This is where the awful farm system really hurts the Sox. Who can they use in the minors to actually go out and acquire MLB caliber hitters? If you are willing to take on some money, you can get some guys for just about nothing every year.