Dick Allen

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Aug 6, 2011 -> 03:44 PM) And where are these prospects? That's right. There are none. As long as he's here, you play him. If only to build his value up for next year. Rios has no business playing tonight at the expense of CQ. And my break does not start until gametime tonight. No, but the line up you were hoping for is here, and if Quenitn is 0 for against Pavano, how is that going to build up his value? I laugh at the line up personally. Ozzie just called out the fans agsin the other day and he does Dunn/Rios 4 and 5 again. If they don't contribute, it makes him look like a bigger fool. I hope he's right and they do something tonight, but after over 110 games of watching this, I tend to doubt it.

QUOTE (Cerbaho-WG @ Aug 6, 2011 -> 02:55 PM) OK then. What's worse than benching Quentin for Rios is hitting him 5th, right behind Dunn. Why yes, let's have quite possibly the two worst offensive players in baseball bat back-to-back. Edit: WAR says that Dunn and Rios are actually the two worst players in baseball. Incredible. If you think you can make a better line up than Ozzie, you are an idiot. Ozzie know more about baseball than anyone. The only one even close is Oney.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Aug 6, 2011 -> 02:55 PM) I'm taking a two day break from all things White Sox. Now this doesn't mean I can't post in the diamond club or slam or other sub-forums. But I'm done with PH talk for now. Ozzie has sucked the White Sox life out of me. f***ing dumbass b****. I hate him so much. Oh, and to greg. If you defend this clown after this latest atrocity, then never talk to me again. At least when it comes to the White Sox. Didn't you want Quentin traded for prospects at the deadline? KW couldn't or wouldn't give you want you wanted, but Ozzie is.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Aug 4, 2011 -> 01:01 PM) +1. Ryno should be on our list for sure. I agree. He never came across to me as very intelligent, but his HOF speech about playing the right way impressed me. He was a guy who was willing to go back to the minors to earn his shot. Not many with his background would do such a thing, and his teams in the minors do win. To me he's a consideration as a manager, or at the very least a coach. What a shot it would be to the Cubbies fans to have Ryno sitting in the Sox dugout with his alternate home pinstripes on.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 4, 2011 -> 07:38 AM) He is pretty much the exact same guy as Ozzie. LaRussa does have a law degree and Ozzie about a 4th grade education, and for all I know, LaRussa's daughters don't twitter away all day. That said, I was glad Hawk dumped Tony in 1986. He's a winner some say, but look at the talent he had in Oakland and he won once there. That team was loaded. The other time he won he was beyond lucky to make the playoffs, although the Sox would fare a bit better in the HBP wars. Tony has to put his stamp on each game he manages. I think that was my biggest peeve with him. I really don't think even if Ozzie leaves he would come here, at least to manage. The rumors with this team are all over the place. One thing is for certain, if LaRussa came, there would be no rebuilding. The Sox would be trying to win the division. He's too old for the other crap. I do think everyone who is pissed off now and wants the Sox to totally rebuild will be even more pissed off in 2 years if the Sox choose that route.

If they don't walk Paulie here, Gardenhire is ridiculous.

3 runs won't be enough to win this game. Blackburn really sucks. Even the Sox are going to get to him.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Aug 5, 2011 -> 07:35 PM) DeAza with another hit. Thank goodness they waited four months to bench Rios. If you think you can make out a better line up than Dunn hitting 4th and Rios 5th against a LHP, you're an idiot. Just ask Ozzie. He makes the best line ups. He knows more than everybody.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 5, 2011 -> 07:34 PM) If you saw the 2 teams, which would you suggest had the better record? Minnesota owns the Sox, we all know that, but part of the reason is the Sox attitude towards them all throughout the organization. Spend more time working on kicking their ass than you do kissing their ass and the results may be different. Apparently the other teams in the league don't have much problem against them.

Buehrle has always had problems pitching around errors.

Listening to Hawk and Stone, it would shock you to know the Twins are 9 games under .500.

QUOTE (Kalapse @ Aug 5, 2011 -> 03:16 PM) Is there any other manager in baseball who routinely calls the fans idiots? Ozzie thinks I'm an idiot because I don't think Dunn should be batting 4th. I think its fair. I think he's an idiot for continuing to put him either 3rd or 4th. When the season is over, I'll even let Greg evaluate who was more correct, making the other the bigger idiot.

QUOTE (flavum @ Aug 4, 2011 -> 09:01 PM) Who is Hawk talking to? Hawk lives about an hour and a half or two hours away from the park. This conversion is probably one he has with him self after every home game.

Off the glove of Texiera, but Nova is right where he should be, hey Hawk you forgot to add, and AJ is jogging down the line.

They should just tell Sox fans to stick it up their ass and have Rios loaf around CF the next few years and hit 3rd and keep Dunn in the clean up hole. Maybe they can bring back Tom Seaver to pitch opening day next year.

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Aug 4, 2011 -> 06:49 PM) Ask yourself the question: would I write this if the team was winning? If your letter is out of frustration tear it up. It doesn't do anyone any good including yourself. Now if you have made several copies before settling on this letter then do what you feel you have to do. I am a frustarted Sox fan also, but I don;t have a problem with Ozzie. I have a problem though with non-performing ball players. But, relaistically is there anything that can be done with them until after the season? Yes. Some can be benched, others can be moved lower in the line up. If you want to win you do what you have to do. ARod was struggling for the Yankees during the WS one year. Torre moved him to the 8 hole. Why does Dunn continue to bat 3rd or 4th if the Sox are truly trying to win baseball games? He's one of the worst hitters in baseball. Move him down, if he snaps out of it, then move him back.

As I stated in the gamethread, since the season is now 2/3 over, the fact that a guy with a .165 average who has a good shot at establishing a new MLB record for strikeouts in a season is STILL penciled in the clean up spot makes me wonder when winning will become priority number one again. And you are right, as a ticketholder for 22 seasons, this is the most frustrating of them all. I will not be renewing when in the past it was automatic. Failure to make changes whether just being stubborn or stupid is the final straw for me.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Aug 4, 2011 -> 06:04 PM) I pretty much live in bucktown on the weekends, I hope I never run into him. Whether you like him as a manager or not, you would have to admit drinking with Ozzie would probably be a riot.

I'm wondering if its considered derrogatory for Venezuelans to call someone Mexican. Ozzie once called himself a crazy Mexican, and now Jr. implies people are tough on his dad by calling him Mexican. It would be ironic if they were the ones using racial slurs. I don't have any idea. I will say, people saying they want Ozzie or his family dead even if joking is absolutely crossing the line as is anything ethnic or racial. To me, if you were going out to suck back some beers, Ozzie would be my #1 choice if I could choose anyone in the White Sox organization. I just think his time making out the line up card should be ova.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 4, 2011 -> 04:27 PM) This is probably the first season in a long time I go into every game expecting us to lose. I wonder if I am alone in this feeling. Even with the great Ozzie Guillen pushing all the buttons?

QUOTE (Wanne @ Aug 4, 2011 -> 03:14 PM) 1. Pierre, LF 2. Ramirez, SS 3. Konerko, DH 4. Dunn, 1B 5. Quentin, RF 6. Pierzynski, C 7. Beckham, 2B 8. De Aza, CF 9. Morel, 3B As long as Dunn is batting clean up, I take that as a sign White Sox wins aren't as important to the White Sox as they are to me.

The only person I have ever seen refer to Ozzie as Mexican was Ozzie himself.

CQ puts in on the board and the Sox have scored 6. Fire Don Cooper. Walker is doing a hell of a job tonight.

Don't stop now boys. Another run and the deficit is back to single digits.

QUOTE (Paulie4Pres @ Aug 3, 2011 -> 08:46 PM) A guy that defensive and that quick to throw insults at anyone that questions him, obviously cares what people think about him. I agree. Defensive was the word I was trying to think of.