Dick Allen

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jul 10, 2011 -> 04:07 PM) Was the WP on Santos or AJ? I missed it. It was on Santos, but it bounced back from the wall right to AJ and he missed it.

At least we have Dunn and Rios turning it on in the second half to look forward to.

This really is disgusting.

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Jul 10, 2011 -> 04:00 PM) I'll take Hawk's side on this one: 1. Couldn't you say he's taking a shot at the Sox by saying "Gee, with all the injuries to the Twins, it's hard to believe we're 1-6 against them this season?" 2. He can't flat out call the team garbage because he would lose his job. Hawk could very easily get away with ripping the Sox.

The OFs taking their sweet time getting to that one.

QUOTE (Cerbaho-WG @ Jul 10, 2011 -> 03:56 PM) Hawk really needs to stop with the Twins flattery. You want to know why we're so f***ing bad against them? 1) We are a mediocre team. Period. 2) We hype the Twins up to be perfect. For a large part YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS. Hawk is so spineless. I can't remember the last time he said something outright negative (but truthful) about the Sox. Hawk needs to check the results of Twins games against everyone but the Sox.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jul 10, 2011 -> 01:04 PM) I think the argument is what young hitter or unproven hitter has come to the White Sox and flourished under Walker? Most aren't going to give Walker credit for Frank, Maggs, Lee, PK, Thome and Dye. Those guys were established long before they hooked up with Walker. I guess you can say CQ? Though he's been maddeningly inconsistent. Anderson? Fields? Getz? Beckham? Swisher? As where with Coop you can obviously point to Loaiza, Contreras, Thornton, Floyd and for the moment Humber. Dye had struggled for a couple of years with injuries. Thome had been hurt. Konerko was hitting like Adam Dunn currently is hitting but making more contact. Aaron Rowand swears by Walker. Pods became a better hitter. Crede was alright and was really starting to flourish in 2006 when his back gave out. Look at his numbers at the end of August that year. Alexei Ramirez, Iguchi. Again its a case where the perception is any success pitchers have is because of Cooper. If they fail they just suck. With Walker, if the fail, its because of Greg Walker. If they do well, it has nothing to do with him.

QUOTE (TheBigHurt @ Jul 9, 2011 -> 10:35 PM) I don't disagree. However as long as we've had both coaches I think hitting has been overall a MUCH bigger issue than hitting. Besides, numerous "meh" pitchers have come here only to turn themselves into real names. What hitters have done that? I can't think of a single one off-hand. Quentin is about as close as it gets and for the most part that was simply one year. That is a huge misconception. Since 2004 Walker's first full year the White Sox offense based on runs scored in the AL ranked 3rd-2004 9th-2005 3rd-2006 14th-2007 5th-2008 12th-2009 7th-2010 11th-2011 The pitchers ERA were ranked 12th-2004 2nd-2005 10th-2006 12th-2007 6th-2008 2nd-2009 8th-2010 6th-2011 So in the 8 years 4 times the offense was ranked higher than the pitching and 4 times the pitching was ranked higher than the offense. You could blame USCF, but most Sox pitchers have pitched better at home than on the road, and KW spends more money per pitcher than per position player over the years.

QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 10, 2011 -> 11:42 AM) You guys probably won't believe this, but Dunn when batting .180 still has a big presence in the lineup to an opposing pitcher. When he comes to the plate pitchers are still focusing in harder to remember scouting reports and not make a mistake to him. Adam Dunn is a big man and a big name and while the numbers might not bear it out, there's something to be said about a big bopping 3/4 hitter that has been one of the best power hitters around for that past 8-10 years. Pitchers remember that, none of them want to be the one to help him bust out of the slump. They all would rather see a hot-hitting AJ or whoever else. Great move, have Ramirez bunt so they can walk Konerko and the big "presence" Adam Dunn about 2-60 against LHP facing one of the better performing LHP's this year. GMAB. If they were so scared, why did they put Konerko on? Not only did he take the bat out of Ramirez's hands, he took it out of Paulie's hands. It was an idiotic move. There is no defense, especially considering he later refused to have Beckham bunt with no out and the winning run on second.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jul 10, 2011 -> 09:03 AM) even if ozzie was thinking of retiring, i think he would view this as a embarrassing moment. i agree with steve, if thos happened the way cowley told it, ozzie would have exploded on twitter, and so would his son There's also a couple things that no one has mentioned. Cowley tweets his stuff, whether its true or not, Oney hasn't said anything. Makes me think Ozzie isn't too upset about this if it is true. Oney did pop off Flowers was being called up because KW traded for him, thought it should be Lucy or better yet, the Sox should get Ivan Rodriquez.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 10, 2011 -> 09:49 AM) The 2011 Red Sox and Twins responded without changing managers. The 2011 Twins still have a worse record than the White Sox.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jul 10, 2011 -> 08:34 AM) There's no way that is true, because Ozzie would already have tweeted and lost his s*** in an interview by now if he knew he was out the door. Who knows, maybe Ozzie threatened or offered or was thinking about quitting as he has threatened before.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jul 10, 2011 -> 08:25 AM) Has there been an announcement on who's being called up? Is it T-Flow time? That .868 OPS in Charlotte suggests he could be somewhat useful with the bat if called up, but he probably wouldn't play much with AJ hitting well. He was yanked from the game yesterday so its assumed he's coming up. The question will be can he make contact at the major league level? So far the answer appears to be no.

@Buster_ESPN Buster Olney Lots of rumors swirling about managerial change with the White Sox, but high-ranking source says change with Ozzie not being considered. 10 hours ago via web

I actually wouldn't be too shocked if Donny Lucy got the call.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jul 9, 2011 -> 05:53 PM) Tyler Flowers will make Dunn look like Ichiro. Hope AJ is ready to play every day. This made me chuckle.

This losing streak is ova.

Flowers and Dunn can have a strikeout contest.

If the Sox pull this one out, it definitely was despite Ozzie.

QUOTE (spiderman @ Jul 9, 2011 -> 05:41 PM) Why does it seem that Juan Pierre is up so often? Because he is.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 9, 2011 -> 05:39 PM) AJ had a chance to advance to 3rd on that ball to Repko but he came halfway. Of course, had Beckham bunted him over, that sacrifice fly there by Teahen would have been the game winner. Nice work, Guillen. If he tried to advance he'd have been out by 15 feet. The throw was almost perfect.

That flyball scores AJ if he's on 3rd.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jul 9, 2011 -> 05:35 PM) Its time to break this streak. Ozzie cant pinch run we have no other catcher you fool. Mitch Williams is apparently as dumb as he looks.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jul 9, 2011 -> 05:33 PM) I disagree, I think if was making a lot less money teams would have him as a back up of. .215 hitters with no power may be back ups or may spend summers in cities like Charlotte.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jul 9, 2011 -> 05:31 PM) If Rios was making a lot less money people would be fine with his talent. Its just he got a contract based on reaching a future potential, he has actually regressed from where he was. I don't think anyone would care if he made $20 million or the minimum if he performed. For the past calendar year he has been an awful major league baseball player.