Dick Allen

If he can keep them to a run or two here, the Sox are still in it.

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ May 4, 2010 -> 07:51 PM) I hope so. I'd rather have Morel at 3B right now than Teahen. There's always the possibility of Teahen becoming a utility guy and playing all the positions he played in KC. I just can't picture him helping a contending team playing 3B every day. If his defense doesn't kill you, his strikeouts might.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 4, 2010 -> 07:49 PM) Chances he's another acquisition that gets unloaded after the season because he didn't fit it? Unless they want to eat money, or take on some cash coming back, I'm pretty sure the Sox are stuck with him. Hopefully something clicks. He's a horrid 3B, but maybe he'll hit eventually.

Teahen looks so stiff to me. He also looks like a guy who would rather be in a million places other than USCF right now.

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ May 4, 2010 -> 07:37 PM) Jim Thome - 39 years old - $1.5 salary - .278 AVG, 5 HR, 15 RBI, .409 OBP, .630 SLG, 1.039 OPS, 0 SB, CAN'T PLAY DEFENSE Andruw Jones-33 years old - $.5 salary - .284 AVG, 8 HR, 13 RBI, .400 OBP, .687 SLG, 1.087 OPS, 5 SB, CAN PLAY 3 OF positions, and well. Stop whining. Seems to me the White Sox have room for both of them in the line up. Of course it would cost Pierre and Kotsay some ABs.

I like when the bases are loaded having Pods bat against the White Sox. In 2005 his "near MVP" season according to some, he was 0-7 with the bases loaded with 1 RBI which he got with a walk.

Ernie Harwell died today.

QUOTE (joesaiditstrue @ May 4, 2010 -> 07:19 PM) so, Kenny said Teahen is a real 3B. but he isn't. what does this mean? Kenny cant properly evaluate talent? Kenny also said Josh Fields would be the White Sox most popular jersey in 2009 and Brent Lillibridge would swipe 40 bases. Of course he's going to say that. I didn't like the trade at the time it was made, but I suppose I could understand it. I just don't get the extension.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 3, 2010 -> 05:51 PM) Too funny...TWO Sox fans both using the exact, particular phrase "piss poor" to describe the Sox. It could be worse. We could have been Royals fans.

Another non story. I really don't think KW needs another month to conclude he needs more talent. I think he may now regret calling it an offseason after he acquired a leadoff man who can't get on base much and a third baseman who doesn't hit or field all that well, and thinking his piss poor 2009 offense was poised for a turnaround.

QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ May 3, 2010 -> 01:48 PM) Bingo! I think that is ultimate answer with Teahen - utility guy off the bench, and not just necessarily for the Yankees. I don't think he should be a starter at the Major League level, period. He is below average offensively and defensively and has proven so pretty much throughout his entire career. The one quality he does bring to the table, though, is versatility. And the last time I checked, versatility was an attribute considered to be quite valuable for someone coming off of the bench. In Teahen's case, you can theoretically run him out to five positions on the playing field. And even though he isn't particularly good defensively at any one of those positions, in short stints that kind of versatility could come in quite handy for a manager over a long season. Additionally, as is the case with so many good bench players out there, they seem to hit better in limited action vs. having their weaknesses exposed as a full-time player. So to me, Teahen would be acceptable as a super sub, but as a regular player, I just don't think he cuts it - ESPECIALLY in a line-up that also frequently features the names Pierre, Vizquel, and Kotsay along with Teahen's. This is true. How much better of a ballplayer is Mark Teahen than a guy like Geoff Blum? Is he 3 times the player? Blum has never made more than $1.5 million in a season. The White Sox inexplicably guaranteed Teahen $15 million.

QUOTE (iamshack @ May 3, 2010 -> 04:41 PM) I'd be shopping the hell out of Greinke right now too. His value will never be higher. And by the time they are any good to where he can actually make a difference for them, he will be walking via FA. Then the cycle would continue. They would never be good. I would hate to be a Royals fan who grew up with the George Brett era teams with the way this franchise has floundered the past 2 decades. They need to keep their good players. When Greinke can become a FA, he's kind of a strange dude and perhaps except for the losing, likes the low pressure environment in KC, Royals ownership needs to sign him to a fair market contract. They have some decent young players, but it seems there is such a loser's atmosphere around there. I don't think their GM is going anywhere, but KC, if I were a young GM in waiting, would be a sweet job. They have some gpod young talent. Expectations are beyond low. The fans there are starved for something just decent. Guillen is coming off the books. I really think if you had a decent plan, I think you could really make quite a name for yourself as their GM, and if you were successful and they couldn't afford to keep what you have built, you would have your choice of other jobs.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ May 3, 2010 -> 05:09 PM) Screw his contract. It wouldn't matter if he was playing for free. There's just no better option. 'Lexi? Rios? Beckham? This is an incredibly flawed roster. The best bet is that Juan can become at least 80% of what he's been his entire career (not that he's ever been that good. but he's never been THIS bad). He is better than he's shown, and he does get ridiculously hot at times. They are usually all singles, but I still think he winds up with better numbers than Pods this season.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ May 3, 2010 -> 05:03 PM) Like it or not, JP has no value on THIS team if he's not leading off. There's just no better option. Blame Ozzie/KW for the construction of the roster until you're blue in the face. It's just fact. I think he wouldn't be bad in the 2 hole especially considering Ozzie likes his #2 guys bunting. He makes a lot of contact for hit and runs, can bunt, and even though he has several so far this season, he historically doesn't GIDP much. 10 times is a career high.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ May 2, 2010 -> 09:34 PM) And before this year he had never gotten a chance to settle in at one position. We've never seen him play ONLY third for a FULL year. Not everybody can move around all over the place and provide an above average glove. Teahen himself before the season said as much. You want a cookie? Fine. For the first 21 games (19 starts) in his first season playing strictly one position, Teahen has not played a good 3B. Much more data will be required before any legitimate conclusion of his overall defense can be made. That's much more important to me than a 19 game sample size. Excuses are for people who fail. Obviously Teahen is full of excuses. Exactly when do we see him taking off as a great defensive thirdbaseman? He played a lot of 3B last year. Played it all of spring training, and a month into the season and he's still terrible. When does he become at least adequate? When his contract runs out? He's played plenty of 3B in his career for everyone to know he's not very good at it. Sort of like why the Sox don't put Paulie at SS. There is no sample size to judge, but you know he wouldn't be good there.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 2, 2010 -> 05:22 PM) We should have seen this coming, as PK was the guy that some of the posters on here with inside sources were claiming was content after winning the WS and just going through the motions. I don't buy that at all. He really has a very bad thumb. He took a shot in spring training and its apparently holding up well, but at some point he'll need another shot. Paulie is a professional.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 2, 2010 -> 05:20 PM) Well, our own GM said he had a trade made for Halladay, but we couldn't come up with the funds. Plus JR already threw out the sticking their necks out financially line. Their advanced sale is lagging, big time. They really needed a decent start. I think the payroll will be -$15-25 million lower next year if this year is a total flop. That could be just attrition with Konerko, AJP and Jenks easily discarded, or it could be something bigger than that. As I posted in the gamethread, I received an out of the blue how are you doing how's everything call from my ticket rep on Friday. I have not received one of those in 7 years. I'm guessing they are very concerned.

I'd be shocked if this isn't Paulie's last year in a White Sox uniform.

Donny Lucy-he gone. Castro back. Donny did a solid job. I don't know if he could be solid for an entire season as a back up, but he certainly did his job.

I really don't know why anyone would have to look at UZR to determine what kind of 3B Teahen is defensively. Its pretty obvious.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 2, 2010 -> 03:10 PM) I think Twins have more hits today than we have all season. The Twins are going to realize they are playing outside pretty soon. They can't play worth a damn outside.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 2, 2010 -> 02:54 PM) Two batting averages over .239 in the lineup today...and we can no longer say it's April. I think they only have 2 pitchers who have pitched at least 10 innings with an ERA below 4.50. One Sox starting pitcher now has an ERA below 5.30.

Just leave him in and give him his release after the game.

Its too bad they were joking with Williams when KW told him it wasn't going to work out.

Its good the infield was in. You don't want it to get to 11-0.