Dick Allen

QUOTE (Wanne @ Jun 8, 2009 -> 06:17 PM) I'd just like to see this team at least once take the approach of taking pitches the other way. Goddamn...it's not Rocket Science. THAT falls on Walker and the horses*** approach most have on this team. On Saturday during BP that is all they worked on.

QUOTE (Paint it Black @ Jun 8, 2009 -> 05:10 PM) Am I still the only person here that doesn't think Walker should be fired? There's a few of us.

QUOTE (soxfan3530 @ Jun 8, 2009 -> 03:22 PM) Thank God for Konerko and JD this year! Konerko should have been released last year.

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Jun 8, 2009 -> 03:15 PM) season changing walk-off coming...wait for it... Where's Jeff Abbott, another overhyped White Sox farmhand, when you need him?

The Sox are hitting .350 today.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 8, 2009 -> 02:36 PM) Thank God for JD this year. The rest of the team can start pounding the ball anyday now and help him out, I wouldn't be upset with that. Too bad the Reds didn't want to take his contract. Homer Bailey would have been great with the Sox.

QUOTE (DanksFan @ Jun 8, 2009 -> 02:27 PM) i wonder how demoralizing it is to go to any of these games except game 1 agaoinst Oakland and game 2 against Cleveland... people aren't gonna keep showin up for this s***... Dewayne Wise.. Give Me a f***ing Break. He is not a ML player. Check the scores of Friday night home games. They have been outscored 38-7 collectively. They usually get crushed. I think one of the split season packages has all those games with it. A lot of those people aren't going to want to re-new if it continues.

Its time KW took a look at the back of a lot of these players' baseball cards and realize he had no reason to be optimistic they could do what he thought they could do. Wise is not a major leaguer.

QUOTE (TitoMB345 @ Jun 8, 2009 -> 02:15 PM) don't let that average fool you. he's still not in hitting shape. once he gets there, i fully expect his average to get closer to .200. he just needs a few more weeks, then he'll really start raking. /ozzie. I almost get the feeling that Ozzie is trying to prove the fans wrong when they say this guy sucks. Its amazing he is on a major league roster. He would easily make it through waivers IMO.

I think the collective baseball IQ of the current roster isn't very high.

QUOTE (Jenks Heat @ Jun 8, 2009 -> 01:54 PM) Defensively.......not even close uribe catches the pop up yesterday that Ramirez never moved for Alexei is good with the glove, he just tries to be too fancy at times IMO. The other night he leaped for a ball and twisted his glove around to make a routine line-out look spectacular. Just make the play.

QUOTE (Jenks Heat @ Jun 8, 2009 -> 01:52 PM) I hope the approach to holding runners on or changing the stretch used by pitchers is worked on next spring. If a hitter can't take the ball the other way, its Walker's fault. If White Sox pitchers can't hold runners on, Cooper is one word you will not see mentioned.

QUOTE (CanOfCorn @ Jun 8, 2009 -> 01:45 PM) I think Ozzie should make Dwayne Wise do push-ups every time he pops up... WHO'S WITH ME?!?! I just wish he'd make him go home. Did anyone see the Sun Times piece yesterday that Ozzie got the idea to put Quentin 3rd in the line-up last year from an email from a fan? I can't believe he would admit that.

QUOTE (Jenks Heat @ Jun 8, 2009 -> 01:40 PM) Let's see what the advanced scouting has to say about the guy hitting .115 Clayton may be in the pen shortly as his last two outings have not been good. Oakland teed off on him. He's not that good. KW would have stole Peavy had he said yes.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 8, 2009 -> 01:33 PM) So frustrating, no one is stepping up and getting a big hit. 2 for last 42 with RISP (if you count sac flies). Did you see White Sox pinch hitters are 1 for 30 this year? That is hard to do.

QUOTE (Jenks Heat @ Jun 8, 2009 -> 01:28 PM) Imagine if he was here last year with Quentin and Cabrerra. I asked Williams at Soxfest if he thought of bringing back Pods when the Rockies gave him the ML deal and he flat out said absolutely not... I am not a Pods fan but he is what this team needs. He wasn't very good last year. The fact is he was released by the Colorado Rockies this year. He's playing very well right now. If anyone thought that was possible he wouldn't have been without a job even for the couple weeks he was out of one this spring. I don't know how long it will last, but the Sox should ride it until it ends.

The White Sox drafted Polanco a couple picks after the took Carrie Schueler. He didn't sign.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 8, 2009 -> 12:56 PM) And every ball that flew through the infield unmolested by Royce (Range of Josh Fields at 3B) Clayton led to additional pitches as well. If you asked any of our pitchers who'd they rather have playing SS everyday, privately, they all would have said Jose Valentin. Not to mention the fact that he was a really smart ballplayer in terms of instincts...we don't even have a baserunner with close to his aptitude on this current Sox team. We just have lots of low baseball IQ players, and that goes back to drafting. We can't blame the injuries to Rauch, Barcelo, Kelly Wunsch, Rocky Biddle, Bobby Howry, Jason Stumm, Danny Wright, Corwin Malone and MANY others on Jose Valentin alone, that would be silly. Eldred had a long history of injury problems before he came to Chicago... Valentin was back at SS. It didn't help. Royce Clayton wasn't the reason the Sox were mediocre in 2001 and 2002.

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Jun 8, 2009 -> 12:40 PM) But has there been in talk of an injury to Bart? According to Ozzie at his press conference yesterday, Colon isn't leaving the rotation.

QUOTE (WCSox @ Jun 8, 2009 -> 12:30 PM) I was a big Valentin fan as well. He was an error machine, but you're correct about his range and arm (his 20+ HR power was nice as well). To my recollection, I only remember him costing us one game back in 2000 (the Sirotka/Pedro matchup, where the Red Sox on 1-0 on an unearned run). It also led to the pitching staff throwing more pitches and more stress on their arms. Eldred, Baldwin, Sirotka, and Parque all were never the same. I'm not blaming Valentin, he was a good player when the Sox acquired him and got a little worse every season, but it certainly didn't help them.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 8, 2009 -> 12:36 PM) For one thing, the most dominant and successful element of our team right now is the bullpen, which is partially Cooper's oversight. Second, Colon has been getting by with smoke and mirrors (until recently) all season long. How he has done as well as he has with an 84-91 MPH fastball, throwing it 85-90% of the time, is beyond me. Everyone knows Clayton Richard has been a pleasant surprise, compared to the view many had of him this offseason as a pitcher who would get knocked out of the game in the 3rd through 5th innings (second time through the line-up). Contreras was/is coming back from a catastrophic, career-threatening injury at age 40+. Floyd has finally seemed to have righted the ship...and it looks like Danks might be the White Sox version of Cliff Lee (look at some of his inconsistency from year to year, where he goes from the Cy Young to the precipice of AAA and back and forth). The heavy toll/workload HAS to be a factor....it got the 2005 starters in the second half of 2006, their ERA's weren't even close to what they put up in our championship season. Buehrle is Buehrle. I don't know what more anyone could realistically expect. We knew we needed repeats from Quentin, Ramirez, Danks and Floyd, and none of that has happened...so it's really hard to say we can accurately predict how good either Floyd OR Danks can be when both of their careers have been so up and down. I don't know what everyone can realistically expect out of an offense that was so poorly put together, Dewayne Wise and Brent Lillibridge led off multiple games. Their best hitter has been hurt. Dye and Thome have missed time. A rookie is at 2b. The C and SS while decent hitters are low OBP, the 3rd baseman is a low OBP high K guy coming off a horrific stint in AAA, but yet when the Sox lose 8-4 the when will Greg Walker be fired thread begins. It is ridiculous. Again, be careful what you wish for. Everyone wanted Uribe and Crede out, you got it. Here's Lillibridge and Fields, what an upgrade. If the White Sox get better hitters, they will hit better. If they continue to trot out mediocre line-ups, mediocre results will follow.

QUOTE (lord chas @ Jun 8, 2009 -> 12:36 PM) yep not even here for a week and hes getting jerked around already There's another game today. He'll be in the line-up as long as he's healthy. This really isn't a day off.

QUOTE (WCSox @ Jun 8, 2009 -> 12:34 PM) I take whatever I read or hear about who a GM supposedly wants with a massive load of salt. I imagine that quite a bit of leaked information is false and intentionally leaked to throw off other GMs. Yeah, I've heard quite a bit about Himes' personality. Too bad, because he knew what he was doing. Roland Hemond wasn't bad either. Roland's selection of Kurt Brown one pick before Barry Bonds is memorable. The White Sox haven't exactly been known for their drafts except for the Himes era. I wonder if any team had 4 consecutive #1's that were able to contribute as quickly as those 4. It really was incredible.

QUOTE (WCSox @ Jun 8, 2009 -> 12:16 PM) I won't dispute the fact that Himes was lucky to nab those four guys in consecutive seasons. Himes also traded for Wilson Alvarez and acquired Roberto Hernandez, so it's not like he was some mediocre GM who fell ass-backwards into dumb luck. I also don't know how Himes supposedly wanting Mike Harkey or Jeff Jackson is public knowledge, or if that information is accurate. I've read it from a few sources several years ago. To me, Larry Himes was a baseball genius, at least a farm system genius. The only reason he was canned was a personal dislike from JR who couldn't stand him. I believe Himes also drafted Baldwin, Bere and Ray Durham in the 5th round of the 1990 draft so he was able to get guys later who were good players even though the first round picks in 87,88,89 were really the entire extent of his draft haul.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jun 8, 2009 -> 12:15 PM) No Beckham in the lineup: S. Podsednik lf A. Ramirez ss J. Dye rf J. Thome dh P. Konerko 1b A.J. Pierzynski c C. Getz 2b J. Fields 3b D. Wise cf C. Granderson cf P. Polanco 2b M. Ordonez rf M. Cabrera 1b M. Thames dh B. Inge 3b R. Raburn lf A. Everett ss D. Sardinha c I would wonder what is going on if there wasn't a second game today. I'm sure if he's not hurt or sick he's in the line-up tonight.