Dick Allen

What's the deal with Allen Thomas? Is he even with the team?

QUOTE(CanOfCorn @ Jun 20, 2007 -> 02:32 PM) Alright, so who on this board ever thought at the beginning of the year we would see an outfield of Owens-Terrero-Mackowiak? And if you did, you are lying. He needs to be like Hunter Pence. He's getting a steady diet of breaking balls now, but he's being patient and taking what he's given. MAN, I wish we could have gotten him. If anyone did, they must suffer from deep depression.

QUOTE(Jenks Heat @ Jun 20, 2007 -> 02:27 PM) I gotta tell ya. Joe Crede may be a man without a country very so. I don't think he gets non-tendered but his value to the Sox organization will continue to drop if Josh can sit at the .270 range as the power and OBP will be better than Crede. I think Crede will be much better after surgery. He may not be back to 2006 numbers, but maybe a shade lower. Fields has been good recently, but could be humbled very quickly. He needs to shorten his stroke. If he can do that, then the Sox don't have to worry about 3b for a while.

QUOTE(klaus kinski @ Jun 20, 2007 -> 02:05 PM) You want Williams to do something? He probably has to get the OK from Paulie to do something.

QUOTE(klaus kinski @ Jun 20, 2007 -> 02:05 PM) You want Williams to do something? No. I hope he re-signs Pods for $4 million next offseason and talks about how effective the Sox are when he's "playing his game". For a guy with a reputation of being a gunslinger, KW sure has taken a very conservative approach recently.

QUOTE(klaus kinski @ Jun 20, 2007 -> 01:59 PM) Owens so overmatched-he hasnt a chance. When will KW see the light and acquire a real lead off hitter? Erstad is not a lead off hitter. Pods is always hurt. Look at the numbers when Pods plays and gets on base. The Sox do well. Get someone else to do that. Andy Gonzalez, Jerry Owens? These guys should be hitting ninth in the Independent League.

QUOTE(Jenks Heat @ Jun 20, 2007 -> 01:58 PM) Why no bunt? How come a player that can hit and not bunt feels Guillen's rather (Iguchi) yet s*** players like Owens, Cintron and Uribe get consistent time. Jerry Owens has no business being in the majors over Sweeney BTW. sad. Sadly, there are several players like that on the roster.

Josh Fields strikes out a lot. I'm not watching, but was it on a fastball? Pitchers do him a favor throwing him breaking balls. Better than average gas blows him away. His swing is pretty long.

QUOTE(NYSox35 @ Jun 20, 2007 -> 01:47 PM) Really? I mean I'm not disagreeing, but I think KW might want to wait until July to drive up the value and wait as long as possible before pissing off the fans. That's just me though Nothing pisses me off more as a fan and season ticketholder than watching the same thing night in and night out. There haven't been a lot of happy people at the games recently, and I think this team has been bad long enough to where even the most casual fan would understand change is a good thing.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jun 20, 2007 -> 01:34 PM) Can someone name me a mediocre shortstop who was rewarded $10-$11M in arbitration? Why does Hawk feel the need to make s*** up? KW gave a mediocre pitcher $11.5 million per for 3 additional years after this one.

QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Jun 20, 2007 -> 01:32 PM) Hawk + DJ trying to ease the public into accepting Buehrle's leave I think they should ease KW into seeing this team isn't very good.

QUOTE(BearSox @ Jun 20, 2007 -> 12:24 PM) Yeah, I meant to ask that. So the wind was blowing out? That was a MAJOR league flyball by Fields though. It was sky high. Usually you can't tell how the wind will affect a ball by looking at the flags at USCF. The were blowing almost straight out. I think he hit it so high, it was above the scoreboard and roof and it gave it a big push. He was so resigned to being out, he damn near passed Dye on the bases. When he saw it was a homer he was a little stunned.

QUOTE(BearSox @ Jun 20, 2007 -> 12:19 PM) or was it shear power by Fields? I was at the game. Fields was pissed at himself. The CF was camping under the ball until it started going 100 feet over his head. The wind was gusting, and he hit it very high.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jun 20, 2007 -> 11:16 AM) What %age of our offense in the last week or so has been accounted for by Josh Fields? He's either scored or driven in 11 of the 34 runs the last week. He was pretty fortunate last night's 3 run homer caught a jet stream. That was a can of corn.

QUOTE(Nokona @ Jun 20, 2007 -> 11:47 AM) He was also under 50 at that time Maybe. Contreras had a pretty good stretch earlier. He's been struggling recently. I think he'll be ok.

The last time this board was clamouring for Contreras to get traded, he won about 15 in a row.

QUOTE(fathom @ Jun 20, 2007 -> 09:28 AM) I have to say., this is a bad trade for the Cubs. They really downgraded their catching position with this deal. Barrett must be a real ass. QUOTE(Greg The Bull Luzinski @ Jun 20, 2007 -> 09:42 AM) ... One of the great names in baseball. He was great until he got nailed in the face.

Linebrink makes way above minimum. You can't have that in the bullpen. Eric Patterson is supposed to be a decent prospect.

QUOTE(Grebeck Fan Club @ Jun 19, 2007 -> 09:33 PM) Taste of Chicago isn't getting a lot of votes. Daytime stuff is still up in the air for sure. What other daytime activities are recommended? Thursday and Friday are open. No, we aren't going to see Oprah. Go to Navy Pier and take a ride on the Seadog.

QUOTE(IlliniKrush @ Jun 19, 2007 -> 11:22 PM) God damn injuries/umpires/duck farts...we'd be right in this thing My buddy who I go to games with and I were talking about this tonight. Actually laughing. Last night when they blew the call at first in the Sox favor, Hawk kept praising the guy as being a great umpire. If he was safe and Tschida called him out, I'm sure he would have had a different opinion. QUOTE(fathom @ Jun 19, 2007 -> 11:22 PM) Hall needs to get surgery on his labrum done ASAP so that he can be ready for next year. He didn't even bother throwing tonight on the steal attempts, but then again it didn't appear Johnny Bench in his prime would have had a chance. He also bounced a couple to Fields on strikeouts.

QUOTE(BearSox @ Jun 19, 2007 -> 11:19 PM) I really like Dusty on BBTN. He is very good on analysis. Same goes for Eric Young, but I can't stand his voice. Orestes Destrade as Donald Trump would say is a total disaster. Its amazing how the way someone speaks can turn you off right away.

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Jun 19, 2007 -> 11:17 PM) I agree with you, but it seems Williams and Co. don't. This francise right now should be at Defcon 4. With Thome having more issues, I think the little get together has become a non issue. They need to start getting ready for 2008. I'm not KW's biggest backer, but I don't think he's stupid.

QUOTE(Big Hurtin @ Jun 19, 2007 -> 11:09 PM) I don't know what he's talking about. Between the injuries and departures, this team is hardly the same team. The bullpen is almost entirely different. The DH is different. The lead off hitter. Tonight's starting pitcher. He's just as frustrated as all of us. It probably eats at him he has no answers.

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Jun 19, 2007 -> 11:12 PM) I really think tonight is a big turing point in the season. Williams seemed to really do the press circut today, htting the local media, then going national on PTI, stating the Sox battle cry, that they aren't out of it yet. Game starts, and its the same old s***. Few runs early, hits stop, and bullpen blows lead. Same s***, different night. Then you get Ozzie blowing up, throwing his players under the bus, having the players take the blame for the mess. Really though, you have a team where Andy Gonzalez is leading off. He wouldn't lead off for most AA teams. How can you really expect to be an upper echolon team?

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Jun 19, 2007 -> 11:09 PM) I'm thinking the same thing -- he looks awful. Yeah, he's pissed, and rightfully so. I think at this point even part of Ozzie would want this thing blown up. At least with young guys he could 'expect' the losing and the mistakes, whereas with this group, he's expecting winning (whether he's right to think that really isn't the point). That's a good point. I think KW is making phone calls as we speak. QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jun 19, 2007 -> 11:11 PM) You're right about the facial hair, he just doesn't look quite right without that s***ty goatee. He's put on a lot of weight and the bags under his eyes are about the size of a garlic clove right now. He should really just walk away with a few million dollars under his belt and a World Series Ring. I doubt he'd have much trouble finding work that's a little less stressful. ESPN would hire him in a heartbeat, even if nobody could understand him.