Dick Allen

QUOTE(aboz56 @ Jul 15, 2006 -> 12:56 PM) I can't see the game except for on Gameday, how's Mark looking? Not sharp. His control is off, although he should have gotten out of the first unscathed.

QUOTE(chitownsportsfan @ Jul 15, 2006 -> 12:51 PM) If that's true, that's about the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Lefties have also historically struggled against Johnson. I'm sure Widger catching wasn't to give AJ a rest. He hadn't played since Sunday.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Jul 15, 2006 -> 12:49 PM) Odd that Jorge Posada can catch last nights game and todays game, but we have to insert a poor hitting Widger who is a terrible caller of pitches in because we need to rest our catcher. AJ hadn't played in nearly a week. I think Widger played because Johnson was on the mound and he took him deep last year.

QUOTE(Brian @ Jul 15, 2006 -> 12:40 PM) Let's say Pods is gone next year, who leads off? Owens? Please don't say Tad. Who cares on July 15,2006 who is leading off for the White Sox in 2007 if Pods is gone. Hopefully it will be someone who doesn't take a strike, then weakly attempt a bunt at strike 2 and then take a nasty strike 3 and goes and sits down.

At least they are only down one. The Sox appear like they must have had a pretty good time after the game last night.

For everyone who thinks Ozzie can do no wrong, why is he the genius when he makes moves and they work out, but its the player's fault when he makes moves and it doesn't work out? I actually would like to ask Hawk this.

QUOTE(fathom @ Jul 14, 2006 -> 09:09 PM) Thought some of the posters in here would find this interesting....on the post game show on Comcast, they just reported the NY Daily News rumor about the Sox shopping Garcia or Vaz. With the way the Sox organization works, they wouldn't be having Comcast state this unless there was something to it. If you saw Ozzie talking to the media in NY, there is definitely something to it. He used one of those they are part of the White Sox organization right now lines.

Cintron should bat for Uribe.

Pods is on a roll with the bases loaded this year.

Bloop, Bloop, Bomb, tie game. Please.

QUOTE(fathom @ Jul 14, 2006 -> 08:40 PM) Assuming we lose, Widger now has a 4 game winless streak going. What's his hitless game streak at?

QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Jul 14, 2006 -> 08:34 PM) Um, why isn't Crede at 3rd? He was beaned in the calf. It must have stiffened up on him.

Must hold them right here to have a chance. Game over. Contreras' streak over. In a wierd way I think Contreras getting a L might not be that bad of a thing. I think he's been pitching not to lose lately, rather than pitching to win.

Quality starts stats are the most BS stats there are.

I just went to a teller in my bank for the first time in a few years. The little pregnant teller's name is Carrie Woods. I was laughing my ass off. She thought I lost my mind.

The Sox should get rid of Freddy while everyone else still thinks he can pitch. Its like Roberto Alomar. He struggled in NY. When the Sox acquired him everyone was saying he's going to be with his brother, he's leaving NY, he'll be back in the AL, he'll return to form. He was done. Other than his won/loss totals, Freddy appears to be nearing the end of his usefullness in a major league rotation. Someone will pay up for his name. Please KW, pretend you are at Joe Perillo and make the deal.

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Jul 14, 2006 -> 12:00 PM) He hasn't been great, especially with the money we are paying him. But he does have 10 QS so it isn't like he is terrible out there. He has had some good starts. I think the league is catching up to his new "style" however, and although he never could hold on runners, its now automatic they run every chance they get on him. Unless he was saving himself for the second half, and actually finds a fastball that would be impressive to anyone above Pony league, I think there's a very good chance his ERA is actually going to rise in the second half.

Freddy, thanks for your efforts in the playoffs, you were magnificent. Now go, leave, get out of here.........If KW gets a nice package for Freddy, I take back any negative thing I have ever posted about him.

Strengthening the bullpen will help out all of the Sox starters. All of them have shown signs of fatique. BMac could get stretched out fairly quickly, and should be strong in the second half as well.

QUOTE(WCSox @ Jul 14, 2006 -> 11:36 AM) KW doesn't need Ozzie's "blessing" and I'm sure that the two of them have spoken about this before. I don't think there's a chance in hell KW would ship Freddy out of town without consulting Ozzie and getting his OK first. He doesn't need his blessing, but its best for everyone that he gets it, at least concerning Garcia.

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Jul 14, 2006 -> 11:33 AM) Pretty odd with out a leadoff hitter. Milledge is one hell of a talent but Flash would definitely be more of a boost to this team than Lastings. Milledge would look pretty good around 2008-9. Gordon would look good 2006-7.

If KW is shopping Freddy, Ozzie must have given his blessing. I think that says enough right there.

QUOTE(redandwhite @ Jul 14, 2006 -> 11:20 AM) There are there differences between the two as you mentioned, but the deal was made completely mortaging the future of that Expos franchise, for a month or two of Colon. I think him being under contract for another year, regardless of what he's owed, is something that will spike his value. If the Mets thought they could change Victor Zambrano into a prize, they certainly think the same about Freddy Garcia? No? Actually, Colon had another year on his contract. Minaya made the 3 way which netted the Sox Colon. Minaya wound up with crap, Liefer, Biddle and an injured El Duque.

QUOTE(beautox @ Jul 14, 2006 -> 11:18 AM) agreed from a white sox prespective, but you move him to the NL and his stats go down drasticly. I don't know about that. He would be pitching in a bigger park, but he lets lots of hitters get on base now, and when they get there, they run wild. Freddy Garcia 2006 is a completely different pitcher from anything we have seen from him earlier. He could easily turn into a total disaster. I'm not a fan of Vazquez, but in the playoffs I'd rather have him pitching than Freddy throwing up his junk.

QUOTE(redandwhite @ Jul 14, 2006 -> 11:15 AM) That wasn't my argument. I don't give a damn who said Milledge wasn't available, the same bulls*** was said about Grady Sizemore and the Indians netted alot more than just him alone for Colon. So don't try pass off crap and say that I'm arguing something im not. When Minaya traded for Colon, his ERA was about half of what Garcia's is right now. Phillips I believe was actually the biggest name in the deal. He was supposed to be a stud, although Sizemore was very well reguarded.