Dick Allen

at least the board was down on another Yankee rocket

That last one was 94 on the WGN gun. Of course Wright has been consistently at 94 and Hawk was saying he's throwing 88.

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Jul 16, 2006 -> 01:06 PM) Maybe we should email them and they'd tell us. I think they have the same suspitions as we all do.

QUOTE(Heads22 @ Jul 16, 2006 -> 01:05 PM) I thought I heard somewhere it was a concious decision. It's possible the WBC had an effect, but that would have worn off by now. I just want him traded. If he really can still throw 94-95 and is just doing what he's doing because he thinks it works better, its time management steps in and shows him some numbers. I heard that once, but I really doubt its true. I think if he did have the ability to throw harder he would.

Pods throws a flyball into home.

Its refreshing to hear Hawk not BSing about Freddy anymore.

Do you think Bruce Froemming ever has any meal money left over?

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jul 16, 2006 -> 12:57 PM) ROB MACKOWIAK IS COSTING THIS TEAM GAMES IN CENTERFIELD! It is amazing almost everytime he's in CF there is a ball that a lot of guys would get to that he doesn't get. You would think at least sometimes there would be nothing but routine plays out there.

Hawk could save his voice some and get "That ball is hit hard" on a soundboard, and use it for the majority of batters Garcia faces.

QUOTE(Heads22 @ Jul 16, 2006 -> 12:54 PM) That ball was hit straight at the 2b, no? He had to hold up in case it was a line drive. Yes, but if he would have run hard and slid into second, it wouldn't have been close. He pulled up and went into second standing up.

QUOTE(Heads22 @ Jul 16, 2006 -> 12:53 PM) Jim Thome is the one guy I'm not gonna fault on the basepaths. He knows he slow as heck, but he f***in sprints everytime. He didn't exactly go hard into secondbase. I know he's been great, but there is absolutely no reason for that to ever happen.

When is the White Sox staff going to do something about the atrocious baserunning. Quit defending Thome DJ. He didn't hustle into second. Thome walking into second costs the Sox a run.

Thank God the Sox offense has been on fire this season.

People were talking about how the Mets are so desperate for a starter. Trachsel has won his last 7 starts. If Pedro can get healthy and Glavine, I see no reason why they would give the Sox an overwhelming package for a guy like Garcia.

QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Jul 16, 2006 -> 12:33 PM) Yeah, that 1-0 shutout in the World Series game clincher wasn't a big deal. Or that clincher in 2005. Nothing special about game 3 of the ALDS That was last year. Tom Seaver pitched some great games, I don't think I'd want him on the mound right now.

QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Jul 16, 2006 -> 12:32 PM) What is Gordon, 38? He's signed a 3 year deal worth $18 million. That's a huge gamble for teams to take on. I think its a bigger gamble to pay Garcia $9 million next season and trot him out to the mound every 5th day. People sitting in the bleachers may get hurt, lawsuits will follow.

Freddy's a big game pitcher

If Philadelphia really is stupid enough to give the Sox Gordon for Garcia, it should be done immediately. Even Hawk is referring to Garcia as meat right now.

The White Sox have only won 5 games this year when they have scored 3 or less runs. The good news is that they usually score more than 3, the bad is if the offense slows down, this could be one tough second half. They are 5-18 when they score less than 4 runs. Of course, most teams have poor records when they don't score much.

QUOTE(soxunited @ Jul 16, 2006 -> 11:20 AM) Lineup: LF Podsednik, Scott 2B Iguchi, Tadahito DH Thome, Jim 1B Konerko, Paul RF Dye, Jermaine C Pierzynski, AJ 3B Crede, Joe CF Mackowiak, Rob SS Uribe, Juan Glad that Konerko is back, and Crede too. I think the Sox are going to need to score runs in mass quantity today.

QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Jul 16, 2006 -> 11:11 AM) LOL I see you are doubting the magical abilities of Dr Coop. Its sort of my personal crusade. I can't believe all the posts I see of acquiring rubbish who will magically turn to gold working with Cooper. Cooper was the Sox pitching coach before last season, and I didn't see everyone thinking he was a miracle worker then. I do think he's a good pitching coach. I just don't think he "fixes" everybody. If the guy was the miracle worker a lot of people think he is, would the board have any posts which state the concern with the current pitching staff, the one with the greatest rotation ever assembled?

QUOTE(RME JICO @ Jul 16, 2006 -> 10:27 AM) A trade in the works for Politte? http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/whitesox.asp?id=208283 The best the Sox could hope for is a non-prospect. Most likely he will be released IMO.

I think the problem is the pitchers are being compared to last year, and to last year's playoff run when, in both instances they pitched way better than can be reasonable expected again, at least for an entire season. Buerhle, even with his last 3 bombings, has numbers pretty close to what you could reasonable expect. Garland was a journeyman basically until last year. Freddy was good and bad at Seattle, so its not shocking to see him with an ERA over 4. Contreras has been solid, better than could be expected, and Vazquez has been mediocre for the vast majority of his career. Expections of the pitching staff were way too high. Unreasonably high. The greatest 5 man rotation in history? Please. Its a good thing the offense improved this year. With last years offense and this year's pitching, the Sox probably would be looking at dueling it out with Cleveland for 3rd place.

The problem is Coop is in NY COOP WILL FIX HIM

QUOTE(shoota @ Jul 15, 2006 -> 06:38 PM) I never stated KW disregards Ozzie's views on players, or that Ozzie doesn't have influence on the roster. KW's and Ozzie's roster decisions don't have to coincide, and when they don't, KW has the power to trump Ozzie's say. If Ozzie feels strongly that he doesn't want someone on the roster, he won't be on the roster. Until recently, maybe after watching Politte pitch too much, he apparently felt that way about Tracey.