Dick Allen

This is interesting. KW did say that Vizcaino was the "key" to the deal.

Maybe making room for the ptbnl

Sandy signed with Texas. Maybe they'll start trading for him every June instead of his brother.

Wasn't he supposed to go to the Yankees last season before he was hurt, but they backed off because they would have used him in the bullpen, and they thought he wouldn't have a good attitude about it?

I still think Shoenweiss is going to be non-tendered. There is no spot for him in the bullpen now, and coming off surgery to have to count on him in the 5th starter spot is a stretch. Besides, they already said they were going to get another starter, and Ozzie said the other day that Garland was the #5 starter. IIRC, Ben Davis is also eligible for arbitration. I think he will also be non tendered, and with the savings on both these guys the Sox sign Piersinski. Maybe I'm dreaming but I also think the Sox are going to get either Renteria, Cabrerra or Polanco, or trade for a very productive middle infielder. Right now if Uribe goes down that would leave a middle infield of Harris and Valdez. That's not good. Finally, I think JR will approve a budget busting signing or trade for another starter. The roster then would be good enough to win the AL Central, and maybe even more.

Steve Phillips was just on espnnews and he thinks the Sox have a couple of deals pending. He didn't mention any names but said they are looking to add power.

That and the fact KW said on WGN tonight that they make hold the money saved for mid season acquisitions (I still think they will acquire somebody) would make this potentially KW's worst deal. KW should have his job on the line with this deal. If it works out, sign him to an extension. If it blows up, show him the door.

Maybe KW has a 2 for 1 trade he's trying to get done. That's the only thing I could think of.

How can anyone say this guy is a true leadoff hitter? His obp was .313, he struck out 105 times. He should bat ninth. But whether or not the trade was any good can't be determined until we find out who the ptbnl is and what KW and JR do with the extra money.

And you know for a fact, Einstein, that that ERA would be just as good at USCF. Pitching against DH's and not pitchers. I never said he was a bad pitcher, he isn't worth the money. :dips*** :dips*** :dips*** :dips*** :dips*** :dips*** :dips***

Absolutely not.

But you can't guarantee his run support would have been significantly higher with the Sox, and if it was, you cannot predict the conditions under which he pitched would have added to his ERA. The guy has never won 15 games in a season, and he finished the season injured and worn down, just like the year before. He's a decent pitcher, he's just not worth $9 million a year.

RJ was on a team that lost 111 games . Clement was on a team that won MORE games than the White Sox and he had only 9 wins. How do you come up with 18 wins if he was on a worse team? How do you possibly think Clement is worth $9 million a year? Please refrain from calling me dumb anymore.

Not I'm not dumb. Wins are a lot more important than ERA. He's had a couple of seasons of decent ERA's, but he's an injury risk. Plus, at no time did I say he wasn't better than Garland. I just mentioned Garland has more wins than him. Clement is overpriced. Teams with budgetary concerns like the White Sox should stay away. The guy is getting $1 million per win last season. Its ridiculous. Whichever team signs this guy at that number will regret it.

Red Sox, not White. Say away from Clement. He won 9 games and is going to get $9 million. The Cubs had a better record than Sox and Garland won more than that.

I'm holding out hope the money saved in this deal will be used filling another hole. 2 average at best players for Carlos Lee is an absolute joke.

If Frank is out for a prolonged period, or he can't return to form, the White Sox would have a lot of trouble scoring runs.

I was referring to what Bruce said. He reported that he talked to people in the White Sox organization and said that is what they told him. That is what I was referring to. I did nothing erroneously. There was nothing negative that I posted, re- read it. In fact, I have been one of the most postive posters on this board. I was pissed about Magglio, but that's been about i. I said it was probably a smokescreen to hide their interest AJ.

Bruce Levine stated on Talking Baseball that the Sox said he was hated by his teammates in 2 places. Please get off my back. I also stated they were probably stating this to "fly below the radar."

I would love to have AJ on the team. His teammates don't hate him as much as Sox brass wants you to believe. Its probably a smokescreen. A catcher with a good lefthanded bat would be ideal for the White Sox.

KW won't talk about much, he's flying underneath the radar.

It gets him out of Arizona, and KW could ship him off to the Yankees at or near the deadline if the Sox are not in contention without asking for the unreasonable package the DBacks are asking for.

Press conference was an internet message board hoax.

If Zito and Mulder continue to struggle, nobody will be asking BB for a sequel to Moneyball.

12 million a year for Hudson would be a steal.Gammons said Clement will probably sign with the Angels for $9 million a year.