Dick Allen

QUOTE (JoshPR @ Apr 11, 2017 -> 06:52 PM) He had a lot of trouble in the WBC. If manfried wants to fix s*** they need to be held accountable They need to use technology to call balls and strikes. They did it in a minor league game last year, and didn't have one complaint.

When Robertson has his control, he is as good as there is.

Putnam is a guy that can't be used heavily, he winds up with shoulder and elbow issues every year. Renteria might want to think about using him a little less.

QUOTE (Greg Hibbard @ Apr 11, 2017 -> 03:21 PM) Thank you for doing your part to add to the discussion. Your comments are appreciated. Since it's a pointless thread, by all means, exit the conversation. Thanks again. They rewarded the guys who had big springs. It's about as fluid as can be. If May and Asche continue to suck it up and Liriano and Garcia hit well for a while, they will be swapped out.

QUOTE (Greg Hibbard @ Apr 11, 2017 -> 03:15 PM) Why not Rymer Liriano over Cody Asche. For one thing, he's hurt. For another, he missed most of last year and was brutal in the spring.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Apr 11, 2017 -> 02:16 PM) He later clarified his point. He said "Hitler was not using the gas on his own people in the same way that Assad is doing" It's way better to use gas on people not from your country.

The one thing I don't understand about SWA is they let injured people pre-board and let them take the exit row. I was on a plane with a guy who claimed his back was so bad he had to be first on the plane, but supposedly would have no problem performing exit row duties.

If there is a possibility he is getting involuntarily bumped from the flight, why they even had him board the plane is beyond me. Let him scream at the gate agent...this is unacceptable.

Forbes came out today, whether they are accurate or not is always up for debate, but according to them, the team made a $41.9 million profit last year and is worth $1.35 billion. So can we forget any talk of them moving?

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Apr 10, 2017 -> 05:54 PM) Delmonico and Hayes would be the guys, but they'll get their turn. I'm in no hurry to discard Asche, but he will need to produce a bit or they'll just cut bait in a few weeks. Check Cody Asche's minor league numbers vs. Nicky Delmonico. Delmonico needs more time at AAA. What ever happened to rushing prospects is a bad thing?

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Apr 10, 2017 -> 05:27 PM) How do you know there isn't? This guy has 1200 at bats that prove he can't hit. Sox have a bunch of guys raking in AAA who haven't had that chance. Why give the chances to the guy they know can't play? The pessimism resides with those who believe that Asche is the best the Sox have, this side of Moncada. Don't lump me with you pessimists, please. My pessimism resides, not with the players, but with a front office that has shown over the years that talent evaluation isn't exactly their forte. Like who?

QUOTE (shipps @ Apr 10, 2017 -> 03:01 PM) This seems like its pretty much anecdotal evidence. I am curious as to what the real numbers on season ticket holders dropping out are. I've heard that its been more than ever but no real numbers. Do the Bears make that information public? The season ticket waiting list only moves 200-300 every year, maybe that will change. I have read the one thing that has really push the NFL's popularity, fantasty football, is one thing that is starting to really hurt their ticket sales, as more and more people would rather go to a bar and watch several games at once.

QUOTE (Greg Hibbard @ Apr 10, 2017 -> 03:20 PM) There is no one else? There's not any minor leaguer in our system who deserves even just a cup of coffee at DH to see if he can hit home runs? No one any more than Asche. Asche sucks. No one is debating that, I paid money to watch Asche play, I'm not so happy about that, but so would just about every other in house option unless you want to rush someone for no reason at all.

QUOTE (Greg Hibbard @ Apr 10, 2017 -> 03:01 PM) I think you are missing the point here. I have no problem losing; I have a problem not getting quality development FOR that losing. Asche has dead end written all over him, mainly due to his # of years of ML experience. He has a pretty long track record at this level already. But there is no one else. You don't want them to rush guys. You get this kind of crap. Maybe, somehow, one of these guys works out. Probably not, but that is rebuilding. For a team that made it a point to have most of their coaching staff, if not all, former instructors, there is very little young talent on the major league roster. Covey and Rodon is about it pitching-wise, and I don't think anyone thinks he's a core piece moving forward. Anderson is. May, Sanchez, Davidson, Asche, the Garcias, probably even Narvaez...these are guys they are hoping against hope somehow find something realizing most likely no. Fraizer, Robertson, Q, Jones, Gonzalez, Shields, Holland, Soto maybe even Abreu, but I tend to doubt it, trade bait. Rodon is a keeper, but really not many on the roster. They seem to like Saladino. So of the current roster, I think if you had RH and KW drunk telling you the truth they would say Rodon, Anderson and probably Saladino and Abreu are the guys currently on the roster they think will be on the team when they believe they are a contender. Anyone else is gravy. Everyone else, just filling in and hoping or trying to get them to play well so they can be dealt to the highest bidder.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 10, 2017 -> 02:53 PM) The Cubs tampered with him as to the status of his contract in order to try to get him to opt out. No more so than anyone else who opts out of a contract. They tend to know they are going to be doing a lot better.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Apr 10, 2017 -> 01:40 PM) Epstein went over slot amounts in the draft for years but teams weren't technically penalized for doing so. In this case, I believe it's a lot different. That wasn't against the rules.

How the hell do they assign you a seat if you are the one going to be kicked off an overbooked flight? Why wouldn't it be the last ones to check in?

QUOTE (miracleon35th @ Apr 10, 2017 -> 01:42 PM) Asche had a hit yesterday and has hit some balls hard. I am more concerned about May, who looks over matched, clueless, and weak at the plate. May had a .660 OPS in AAA last year. Davidson, Sanchez, Leury Garcia, blow that away, and they can't hit. People fall for spring training stats way too easily.

Whatever happened to just increasing the amount of the travel voucher until you had enough volunteers? My wife and I bailed on coming home for a day once for $1,000 each on American. Of course it cost a little bit for the extra day, but it was well worth it.

QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ Apr 10, 2017 -> 12:50 PM) Theo made a living by bending the rules. Do what you have to do. How so?

If Asche or Davidson turn useful, the White Sox have bucked the odds. Might as well give them both an opportunity. I really don't see where one is clearly better than the other.

For a fanbase that complains when the White Sox try to win, want them to do nothing but lose, they sure do complain a lot about s***ty players. You want the Sox to lose, don't complain Asche is in the line up. He gets them where you want them to be.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Apr 10, 2017 -> 10:11 AM) The people who are in on the "campaign" have mentioned the fact it's more of the idea of getting a high pick than actually getting Seth Beer. I'm not sure why the people who don't want to tank have to come in here and s*** all over the idea. You're obviously entitled to your opinion but so are the people who want to lose to get a higher pick. I disagree. There have been a lot of excuses about Beer's performance this season in this thread. He hasn't looked like a guy you lose all your games to draft. They are going to get a high pick. I don't think anyone really thinks they won't.

A guy that had these college numbers went 7th: .359/.457/.718 .385/.509/.648 .403/.568/.807 The Big Hurt

QUOTE (bmags @ Apr 10, 2017 -> 09:27 AM) They likely aren't scouting individual players, he was probably on a tournament (14 is freshman year) and they started scouting. The MLB draft includes high school players, so not sure why anyone is incredulous at white sox having scouting reports on them. If a player could be good enough to be top ten rounds out of high school, the scouts probably ran into them early in their careers. That doesn't mean they went to specifically scout that one player. Beer was 19 when he went to college skipping his senior year final semester. He was in 7th or 8th grade as a 14 year old.