Harry Chappas
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On 12/18/2023 at 10:54 AM, fathom said:
The thing that drives me insane is that if the Sox are so high on Waldrep, they could have just drafted him a few months ago.
Maybe the new regime wanted him but the clown car wanted the unathletic kid with the weird batting stance.
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Against certain defenses the ball needs to come out quick.
With Bagent this seemed to happen and the offense seeemed to be crisp and in a flow.
I am not certain if a coaching staff can fix Fields flaws and get the best out of him but Getsy stinks.
I still think Fields can win and the team strength via draft capital can be built around him.
Let new HC and OC determine with Poles and Warren what is best.
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1 hour ago, kitekrazy said:
I'm jealous of their organization. They might be one of the few Chicago teams that is trying to do something right. They don't have an owner that is so out of touch with baseball reality.
Sometimes I agree with this point and then other times I'm not so sure. They always seem to be getting everyone either via trade or FA but it reality they finalize very few of these deals.
They are light years better then the White Sox but that's a rather low bar.
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Seems something changed here. Was it possibly the stupidity of Hahn and Williams and not JR's policies?
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45 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said:
I know refs usually notify them but damn that’s a full foot over. What the hell was Toney thinking
I like tha the Chiefs were complaining that they usually warn them. Yes they warn them but it is illegal and with a minute left you don't warn them. My guess is that he was warned earlier. It didn't impact the play but it's still stupid.
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How does this impact the pitching market?
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I think it has come down to who will guarantee him the most without putting in kickers about his availability to pitch.
Then there is, who owns the Blue Jays......Roges Communications. This is bigger then the baseball card.
I wonder if they agree to play a series or two or three a year in Japan for him or begin games at 9:00 at night in Toronto to be on at 11 in the morning in Japan.
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I don't think they can punish the player so every player is freeto do as they choose.
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I wonder if JR would like to have an expansion team in Nashville and sell the White Sox.
If a new MLB franchise is $2B+, he sells the White Sox for $1.8B, buys in at $2B+ with that group, no tax implication and then he is part of the new investor group in Nashville. Didn'tthat happen somehow with Montreal, Florida, Boston, Washignton?
MLB gets a viable team in Chicago and then whoever runs Nashville does so with JR not controlling but a passive investor.
Whoever owns Sox with Reinsdorf could actually buy him out and he could take that revenue to Nashville.
I think it's more likely JR builds a 25K baseball stadium in west loop. Small stadium is less overhead and creates a greater demand for big games $$$$, if there ever are any.
Jerry hasa $2B asset that generates limited cash flow.
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Soderholm
Orta
Kessinger
Harry and Jimmy
Don and Hawk
Roland Hemmond
Carlton Fisk
Harold Baines
Burns
Dotson
The Bull
Juice Cruz
Ozzie
Thiggy
One Dog
Rad
Robin
Hawk and Wimpy
There are the guys on every team that would make this list. It's why we are fans.
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3 hours ago, FloydBannister1983 said:
In my mind I remember Canseco being productive. Don’t know if my memory is correct on that one.
He actaully was and compard to some of the washed guys they signed he was decent.
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23 hours ago, Lip Man 1 said:
December 15, 1993 - Sox G.M. Ron Schueler’s luck with taking chances on hurt or limited free agents continued when he signed Julio Franco to a contract. Franco would have a tremendous 1994 season hitting behind Frank Thomas. Julio would have 20 home runs, 98 RBI’s, eight stolen bases and a .319 batting average in his one year in Chicago. He went to Japan the next year because the Sox refused to meet his asking price on a new deal and with labor unrest on the horizon wanted some stability.
January 22, 1996 - The Sox dealt two minor leaguers to Oakland for slugger Danny Tartabull.
The enigmatic Tartabull who had as much talent as anyone, but often didn’t show it, put together a very good season on the South Side, with 27 home runs and 101 RBI’s. The two minor leaguers sent to the A’s were never heard from again. Danny then signed a free agent deal with the Phillies the following year.
His best game for the White Sox came in Boston on September 14 that season when he drove in six runs in a 13-5 win at Fenway Park. He went 2 for 4 with two runs scored. Four of his RBI’s came on an eighth inning grand slam.
Those two guys at least produced when they were a member of the team.
Cover of Sun Times when Franco was signed was White Sox HIre A Hitman man was he good that year that Jerry ended early.
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45 minutes ago, wegner said:
I remember liking Ralph Garr.
Don't remember much about Claudell. It looks like he did die at the young age of 65 in 2020 after a battle with cancer. That sucks.
Do it all Claudell
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50 minutes ago, FloydBannister1983 said:
Alex Rios
Juan Agosto
Nick Swisher
Tim Anderson
Javier Vasquez
Tony LaRussa
David Wells
Joey Belle
Jaime Navarro
Jose Canseco
John Danks
Joey Belle and Julio Franco were proably the two best FA signings in the last 40 years
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1 minute ago, WestEddy said:
I'm surprised at the repeated inclusion of Royce Clayton. Maybe just for unrealized dreaming. He moved Ozzie Smith to 2B and was reviled for that, right?
In 2001, I was in Minneapolis for work meetings. It was the week of the season that was moved from the 9/11 week to the end of the season. I wound up in the same hotel as the White Sox, so I kept running into them all day. Royce and Maggs were sitting in the bar area. I went up to Magglio Ordoñez, called him Paul Konerko, and said I was his biggest fan. Royce Clayton busted up at that. Every time I'd run into Clayton on the elevator or the lobby, he was always cordial. I was wearing a Sox jacket, so maybe they thought I worked in marketing, or something.I view certain guys as reason why the team failed. All I recall about him and Harold batting under .100 in June as the team floundered.
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4 minutes ago, wegner said:
I was in the upper deck at that Paniagua game....I treat him as more of an urban legend. I almost bought his game worn jersey at Soxfest just to see the reaction when I wore it to a game, but it was more than $5.
I changed the colored tags on a game worn Jason Bere for $15 at Soxfest. I spent the $150 savings on beer at the Fest so White Sox Charities got their money.
I burnt a part of it using it as pot holder during a tailgate. White Sox Charities karma at its best.
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3 minutes ago, wegner said:
I was in the upper deck at that Paniagua game....I treat him as more of an urban legend. I almost bought his game worn jersey at Soxfest just to see the reaction when I wore it to a game, but it was more than $5.
I had great sits behnd the vistitors dugout. What a douche.
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Navarro - if you were a Sox fan at that time he is number 1 by a mile. I blame the white flag on him, his contract and JR never spending again
George Bell - I blame him for 93
Jerry Dybzynski - I don't care if I spelled wrong I blame him for 83
Jeff S.
Swisher
Clayton
Wells
Manny Ramitez
Jeff Keppinger
Jose Canseco
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2 hours ago, wegner said:
Hat tip to @dohnutfor the idea to help us forget this group of current losers by remembering past losers.
List 10 White Sox players who you personally disliked the most. I will start with the 10 guys who popped quickly into my head and I am sure that I have missed some good ones so I look forward to other Soxtalker's Lists.
Mine, in no particular order:
Brett Lawrie
Jeff Samardzija
Joey Cora
Nick Swisher
Royce Clayton
Rob Dibble
Kevin Youkilis
Billy Koch
David Wells
Jamie Navarro
Sorry to make it 11 but I remembered who I hated most recently and didn't want to remove any of the deserving above....AJ Pollock
Why Youkilis?
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45 minutes ago, Tnetennba said:
Now you’re just being hyperbolic. Most starters don’t go 7 or 8 anymore. Cease going deeper in games would be nice, I agree. But you’re talking like he has no positive attributes as a starting pitcher, which is silly. Every team in the league would love to have Dylan Cease in their rotation, and would value him far more accurately than you have in this thread.
People ar acting like he was end of career John Danks.
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Yet another example of what a terrible owner he is. He needed to bring LaRussa back but not Leyland. Leyland was a much better manager than LaRussa.
f*** Jerry Reinsdorf.
Another hall of famer let go yet Kenny Williams had to destroy the franchise to ge fired.
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8 hours ago, Chisoxfn said:
Yes they should have. Sad how much they probably killed Lavine trade value. Should have moved him in offseason and Derozan. Bunch of idiots.
Shoudl have never have extended him. There were no signs to show he was worth that money.
Although in his defense playing his whole career on teams that had a one point guard for a couple of months probably didn't help.
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Key for the remainder of this season is Fields and Braxton Jones to determine their fate and are the rookie D linemen for real.
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37 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:
Those five losses and crying memes and refusing to do interviews after some tough losses like this latest one against UCLA are causing a good number of doubts to creep in about Williams…at least on the character and attitude side.
He'll still go number 1. Teams will look past that as they have no choice but to dream big. See Carolina, last spring.
If the Bears get 1 and 5, I'd trade out of both if Fields is the answer. If you get a 6 and 12 and then another two firsts next year, you have a process in place.
Clean out every coach and go get an experienced offensive mind at HC and an older DC that isn't going to leave.
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This is him talking down to his crowd. Fields missed 4 games. That game was 4/13 of the season. That is not imaterial.