StrangeSox

QUOTE (kapkomet @ May 1, 2010 -> 02:56 PM) So your definition of "prayer" is religious in nature? Please define non-religious or secular prayer.

hahahaha. Man, good thing we have socialized medical care now! Or at least a government single-payer system! Or a public option!

Please define non-religious or secular prayer.

Story on npr said the administration included the offshore drilling in the proposed legislation purely as a deal to get some republican support. Boo.

Is this another example of nature out to spite GOP rhetoric?

Wow, they've managed to top the bill from AZ in awfulness. Good work, Dems.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Apr 30, 2010 -> 09:34 AM) No, they didn't. They gave power to people with money and land. They designed the system so that small groups of elite could always control what was going on to protect themselves from government. They gave power to individual states to decide what worked best for them. That's why I said yesterday they'd be spinning in their graves if they knew how much government invaded everyones lives today. Good, let them spin. We shouldn't have a government run by small groups of elites.

QUOTE (kapkomet @ Apr 29, 2010 -> 06:06 PM) It does? Pray to yourself. Or don't. I don't think it mandates anyone to do anything, like say, buy health insurance. It promotes prayer over non-prayer. It grants government endorsement to praying. No one said anything about a mandate.

OK and TX are considering similar bills now.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Apr 28, 2010 -> 09:42 PM) This dude should be the idol of all Cubs fans http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=7695107 guy's got an arm

LOL, that's a good one. Reminds me of surveys where most people think LG is American and Motorola is Japanese. Actual Arizona firms facing a boycott: Cold Stone Creamery, U-Haul and Best Western. Are we sure this was meant to be legitimate and not hipster irony? Package some crappy beer with that slogan and it'd sell like hotcakes in certain Chicago markets.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 29, 2010 -> 12:08 PM) Back on subject...the D-Backs start a 4 game series at Wrigley this weekend. Protests appear to have been organized. M&H were talking about it this morning and offered a little bit of criticism of the bill. Their phone lines blew up but I got to work before I heard any of the callers.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 29, 2010 -> 11:03 AM) That is a terrible analogy. The problem was sending him back to an oppressive communist government. Did Castro take over Mexico? So we're still cool with Cuban refugees, then?

QUOTE (kapkomet @ Apr 28, 2010 -> 10:17 PM) OK, some Kaperbole ™ aside here - it's a problem when the government eusurps anything, IMO, that's not explicit to the constitution. So, the NDoP doesn't mention any religion, nor was that its intent. Yet, there's a lot of people who are getting their noses out of joint because of this huge over-reach by our government. Yet, real over-reaches of different kinds occur every day, so why is this a big deal? It favors religion over non-religion, and that's enough to trip over the judicial hurdles.

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Apr 27, 2010 -> 02:16 PM) they give rings for division championships? What about Wild Cards, are those like promise rings?

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Apr 29, 2010 -> 06:38 AM) Not quite. Fannie and Freddie weren't very private and didn't help matters much. I'll concede that point.

QUOTE (kapkomet @ Apr 28, 2010 -> 10:18 PM) Uh, yeah, with a LOT of help from our government "regulators". That's like blaming the Chicago Police for gang violence -- just because they're ineffective at stopping it doesn't make them ultimately responsible for it.

QUOTE (kapkomet @ Apr 28, 2010 -> 08:22 PM) It's clearly the private sector's fault. Greedy f***ing capitalists. GET THEM f***ERS... I'm glad to see that Obama just took over GS. Uh, yeah, it was.

First, that's how they're used, not my interpretation. More to the point, how is that analogous to violating an amendment?

QUOTE (kapkomet @ Apr 28, 2010 -> 08:21 PM) And that's ok? And then, they should do away with the first amendment. does not compute.

Well they did manage to f*** up a good majority of the world's economy.

General welfare + interstate commerce + 14th amendment = unlimited federal power, pretty much. But all of those other cases are clearly distinct from issues directly applicable to the 1st amendment. Going with the Lemon Test, what possible secular purpose does a NDoP serve?

Turned on the game to find it already 0-5 in the bottom of the first. It's not even May and I don't give a crap about this team any more this year.

Well, yeah, there's that part, but even the basic point of "lawn care mexicans are legal immigrants" is retarded.

LOL. Because dishwashers, chefs and the lawn service industry aren't largely illegal immigrants?