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rabbit, if someone posts demonstrably false or misleading claims, I'm going to respond to them. Put me on ignore if you don't want to see them. There are plenty of other people in this thread that have pointed out your and the article you posted's erroneous presentation of what The Atlantic story was about and why the changing of the period to a comma is immaterial. Feel free to engage with them if you don't want to talk to me, but you're just throwing up defensive bluster rather than addressing anything again.

Moore's lawyer held a press conference to accuse his latest victim of forging the yearbook signature and demanding that they release it for 'analysis,' claiming that they believe she lifted Moore's signature from his signature on her divorce papers. A sixth accuser has also come forward http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2017/11/n...r_he_didnt.html

QUOTE (raBBit @ Nov 15, 2017 -> 04:19 PM) 1.) You can't even get a sentence in without calling names and saying "conspiracy." You offer no support just say your p**** buzz words like usual. You keep calling this a right wing conspiracy theory and you're proving you don't do any research you just call names, use buzz words "alt-right" "racist" "sexist" "conspiracy" to hand wave anything that doesn't go with your narrative. A quick google shows you the leader of Blacks for Bernie Sanders is suing for more info on Rich's death. My search shows me that noted-progressive and Huff Po writer HA Goodman has been following it from the start. Seymour Hersh, a liberal with an incredible track record, is on the case. So your first baseless claim is wrong. It's a conspiracy theory. It's largely circulated on the right, though there are also leftists that are buying into it. HA Goodman lost his damned mind last year when Bernie lost the primary and isn't someone anyone should take seriously. Seymour Hersh is also a contrarian leftist who likes to claim that Assad's done nothing wrong. You're not doing "research," you're reading ravings on the internet. There's zero proof of any of the allegations that the DNC, Clinton, or anyone connected to the campaign had anything to do with his murder. There's no evidence that Seth Rich was even a Bernie fan, despite your claims, beyond some posthumously edited reddit accounts. That's the level of "support" for this conspiracy theory. If you want to talk about Seth Rich, maybe start another thread. Um, the messages that Don Jr. tweeted out after the story about them was published? They talked throughout 2016 and into 2017. WikiLeaks asked Trump Jr. to have Trump tweet out info, and then Trump tweeted out info. Don Jr. tweeted out links to WikiLeaks shortly after receiving some of the requests. WikiLeaks approached the Trump campaign about having them "leak" non-damaging information so that WikiLeaks could publish it and appear unbiased. I'm not sure what's vague there. That's what the whole The Atlantic story was about. See that word "appear?" There's been no appearance, no evidence, not even claims that Assange reached out to any other campaign. I didn't say "there is proof that he didn't" or even "he didn't reach out." Look at her original tweet promoting the story. It was all about DJT Jr. and Assange communicating, not "Assange admits they're pro-Russian!" That was never the story. That's not a partisan claim, that's not being a bully. It's what the story was about and how it was promoted. And again, it wasn't the editor but the author. I know that's a minor detail, but you can't seem to keep basic facts right while alleging how everyone you end up disagreeing with is so hopelessly blind and partisan. And the "my bad" tweet was about missing Jr's third tweet leading her to incorrectly claim he hadn't tweeted out the full correspondence, which he had. There's been no retractions on her actual story. I never took the story to be "aha! proof that Assange is pro-Russia!" The author promoting her own story didn't give that message. Nobody here seemed to be going with that message. The story itself doesn't give that message. The only people who seem to have taken that message are the people looking to defend Assange. That's the truth and the reality.

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That's a lot of words in defense of nutty conspiracy theories. Yes, it's an unsolved murder, but no, you're not doing any "research." You're latching on to the latest right-wing conspiracy, which is a bit of a pattern. WikiLeaks was working with the Trump campaign for a long time. They wanted to combat the claims that they were pro-Trump by conspiring with the Trump campaign to release non-damaging information. They never appear to have made similar outreach to anyone other than the Trump team regarding the 2016 election. They encouraged Trump to contest the results of the election and the legitimacy of our democracy if he were to lose, which doesn't really have anything to do with leaks. But you gotta go back to the original claim, and that's that the missing comma and the words after it really change anything. They don't. The story was never "Assange admits they're pro-Russian," it was the cooperation with the Trump team. The CNN stuff is just whataboutism, but I don't think you'll find any defenders of Brazile around here. e: the Trump water thing is funny because he gave Rubio s*** for it for years

PPP poll: Roskam has 53 percent disapproval rating, trails generic Dem 51-41 He'll be one of the top 2018 targets for D's.

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QUOTE (raBBit @ Nov 15, 2017 -> 02:17 PM) Every theory on Seth Rich is a conspiracy. It's an unsolved murder. Just because someone's theory doesn't line up with your team doesn't mean they're a moron. This is straight-up bulls***, by the way. The story that he got killed in a mugging does not involve any sort of conspiracy. That's just a plain old non-conspiratorial crime. The idea that he was murdered by the DNC, something for which their is zero evidence regardless of what Kim Dotcom claims, would involve a large criminal conspiracy. Those are two very different things without equivalence. Not all "theories" are equally valid and worthy of considering.

The story was never Assange explicitly admitting that he's a clearing house for the FSB. It was the collaboration with the Trump campaign, which is something both he and the Trump campaign denied in the run-up to the election. The Clinton campaign was correct when they called WikiLeaks pro-Trump, as these messages clearly show. DJT Jr. also does not appear to have entirely ignored the messages given the timing of various campaign activities and those messages. The story died down because other things continue to happen and there's not much more to report on at this point.

They found the shooter's wife dead at home. Domestic violence presages a whole lot of these mass shootings.

They post a whole bunch of words that basically amount to "they used a period instead of an ellipses," which yes was a legitimate error, but even when you include what comes after the ellipses, Wikipedia still looks just as bad. They're still trying to fake objectivity while working directly with one of the campaigns. That the Clinton campaign was "slandering" them with being Pro-Trump appears to have been completely accurate given that they were working directly with the Trump campaign and wanted to continue working with Trump to undermine faith in US democracy in the event that Trump lost. Seriously, how does "which the Clinton campaign has been slandering us with" change the underlying problem revealed with Wikileaks' coordination with the Trump campaign? Speaking of being misleading, the "my bad" was about missing one of Jr's tweets, not any alleged errors or omissions in her story. And it was the author, not the editor. e: she also seems to think that "losing internet access" at the embassy means that Assange could not possibly have communicated with the outside world, apparently being unaware of the existence of smart phones and data plans.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 15, 2017 -> 09:15 AM) Yes. Face it folks, no one cares about this. Literally no one cares about the Deficit. You can see that here - the Republicans who were screaming in 2008 that $800 billion would utterly bankrupt us and would drive inflation wild haven't made a single post. They don't care about the deficit as long as it's not being created by Democrats cause then it's evil. No one cares about fairness or people paying their fair share. I don't care if there's a tax increase on the middle class. I'd push for one anyway, I can afford it. The Republicans know that won't cost them their jobs as long as they can afford to spend more money on ads next year. They are trying to do this because their entire philosophy is literally at this point "The finger thing means the taxes". They've bought so completely into the notion that taxes are always the biggest thing on everyone's mind when making decisions that they can't do anything else. You can tell that right here - the person out to sell this, saying this will create tons of job growth, totally mystified when no one is ready to say they'll create a huge amount of new jobs. Businesses have been making record profits and hording cash for years. Nobody is struggling for money to invest. Giving them big tax breaks won't change the job market or turbocharge the economy, but it will continue to widen the wealth and income gaps. And you know, that bolded is a pretty important point. We had an intentionally hamstrung recovery stimulus package at the peak of the worst economic crisis the world had seen in 80 years, but now we can deficit-fund a tax cut for the wealthy that's more than twice as large and not a single Republican seems to care. This country could really use $1.5T in spending on something actually worthwhile like infrastructure.

Completely eliminated in the House bill, doubling the cap to $11M per person in the Senate bill. Massive giveaway to idle wealth. Oh the Senate bill preserves tax cuts for golf club owners, too. Gotta take care of the boss!

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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 14, 2017 -> 05:12 PM) Dude, which bill? There are now officially 2 versions House, the Senate bill is slightly less awful

Per the Joint Committee on Taxation, the Republican bill will result in a tax hike for 20m households under $200k and no change for another 50m households.

Fake robocall pretending to be WaPo offering money for anyone willing to make unverified allegations against Moore has been going out in Alabama http://wkrg.com/2017/11/14/curious-robocal...ation-on-moore/

In contrast to tax cuts for millionaires and billionaires, Democrats have put forth a plan that would put a massive dent in childhood poverty. Brown-Bennet Child Allowance Cuts Child Poverty By 44% It would also pull nearly four million adults out of poverty.

Troll Smearing Roy Moore’s Accuser Stole Dead SEAL’s Identity And that’s just one of a host of lies from “@Umpire43,” whose attempts to discredit Roy Moore’s accusers went instantly viral in the Trumposphere. This sort of garbage rockets around the right wing blog/social media world and gets entrenched as "truth" quickly. The retractions, if they ever come at all, are ignored or quickly forgotten. It's bee a problem for years. Remember all of that "OMG, Obama's India trip is costing $200M a day!" nonsense that made it all the way to the floor of the House? Or when an idiot reality TV show host went a years-long birther campaign and then became President?

https://twitter.com/josheidelson/status/930189997705191425

Moore is doubling down. Also, Roy Moore challenged Alabama law that protects rape victims, documents reveal Cases were among 10 where Moore, as Alabama’s top judge, dissented from court’s majority view and sided with alleged offenders, Guardian review finds

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 14, 2017 -> 02:32 PM) Supposedly Illinois government is a disaster with this as well. From what I understand the board that is supposed to be investigating claims hasn't had a leader in years, so they can't take any official actions and is up to about 3 dozen uninvestigated claims. http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/p...1107-story.html https://player.fm/series/bga-watchdog-on-wb...on-of-marijuana Yeah, there was a big open letter a few weeks back with over a hundred signatories. Sadly, and I'm not saying this as any sort of defense of Illinois, I'd imagine you get the same stories in legislatures across the country from federal to state to city councils.

Well it's at least 5 dead now so it's a mass shooting by any metric http://www.sacbee.com/news/local/crime/art...ylink=mainstage