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Still trying to find that. Americans are known for being particularly litigious. This article references the total costs for med-mal as of 2007. It amounts to $30b or so. http://prescriptions.blogs.nytimes.com/200...lth-care-costs/

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 5, 2012 -> 10:55 AM) But how do those costs compare to the rest of the world? That is the conversation here. Still googling, but the US numbers for 2011 were $3.1b in payouts. http://www.statehealthfacts.org/profileind...5#notes-ind-437 In 2010, the US spent $2.6t on healthcare. http://www.kaiseredu.org/Issue-Modules/US-...ound-Brief.aspx While the payouts don't capture potentially increased med-mal insurance rates, it does show that it isn't anywhere near being a driving factor in the cost.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 5, 2012 -> 10:41 AM) The whole system in the US is more expensive. A good chunk of money is taken up in differences as simple as in what doctors make. Another good chunk of that is our subsidizing drug research and medication for the rest of the world by paying much higher prices. I'd bet things like malpractice rates through the roof and crazy lawsuits are a pretty American phenomenon as well. All of that stuff gets rolled back into health insurance costs, which we have attacked completely backwards as usual. Instead of attacking costs, we find ways to make things more expensive. FWIW, tort reform has been tried in multiple states and has been found to have essentially no effect on health care costs.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 5, 2012 -> 10:13 AM) I don't believe anyone here ever called it that. It's been the conservative pundit rhetoric for the last week.

No, Obamacare isn't the largest tax increase in history:

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 4, 2012 -> 01:52 PM) Americans work at CERN. The Tevatron is still giving some valuable information despite being shut down last year because they haven't been able to go through all of the data. http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/07/...-tevatron-data/

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 4, 2012 -> 10:44 AM) Ravens broadcaster Gerry Sandusky continues receiving quite angry messages. Poor guy, that really sucks.

So after the riots last year, some people in Britain were prosecuted and sentenced to as much as several years in jail for stealing a water bottle in a fast-track trial. Why aren't all of these people, who have stolen tens of millions if not more, locked in jail yet?

QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Jul 1, 2012 -> 06:31 PM) Yes, because then you can't hind behind the farce of it NOT being a tax increase. Kinda like putting that computer on sale for 10% off, after you jacked it up 20% first. Any way you slice it, the tax burden that is now there was NOT there before. So this bill increased taxes. This is a political argument, not a constitutional argument.

QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Jun 30, 2012 -> 12:14 PM) Semantics, again, but you aren't being charged MORE for not owning a home, homeowners are being charged less. For the Obamacare tax to work that way you should be gettign a tax break for owning insurance, not being taxed because you don't. So in other words the exact same thing it does now, except raise everybody's taxes first and then give credits for people who have insurance. Identical outcomes. Identical tax receipts. But somehow this is better?

I wish he was still alive so that he could be deposed again and again and completely humiliated in the litany of civil suits. Instead, his biggest fans will remain blinded to the truth and his assets will be untouchable since they've been portioned out to different trusts.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jun 30, 2012 -> 12:32 AM) CNN just broke out emails that shows Curley and Shultz talking about reporting Sandusky but then they talked to Paterno and he basically changed their minds. PSU is going to hell. I expect b&b to be epic on Monday.

QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Jun 30, 2012 -> 01:34 AM) The joke. Right. Nobody is really saying they are going to leave the country, just like when Bush won in 2004 and the idle threats never manifested themselves. And I portrayed being owned by the Germans as a bad thing unless you want to enjoy the esteemed company of Greece, Portugal, Ireland, Spain and soon Italy; which is a fun group of joy brought about by countries giving away handouts when they clearly cannot afford it. If anything people who want universal healthcare should look into immigrating. The rest of the world already has it! Move there! lol see how easy that was jk i was just pretending to be retarded jokes on u. Make some more bad posts about it

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 29, 2012 -> 03:28 PM) I know that about Illinois, the city as well? Fair to say then that "costs of additional borrowing" might well be fairly extreme compared to the national inflation rate? Their bonds were downrated in 2010. I don't know how it compares to other cities: http://www.cityofchicago.org/dam/city/dept...ing_Ratings.pdf

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Jun 29, 2012 -> 03:26 PM) It's the worst in the union. Yes, worse than California. Edit: The problem is, what the local governments are doing is counter productive to what Obama's administration is attempting to do. While he's attempting to ease the burden on the people, the local governments are simply stealing what Obama's trying to give them. Yes, I'm defending Obama's current vision...it's proper for the time...but it's being undermined by people like General Rhammel. That's what's been happening a lot with employment. The private sector has slowly been adding jobs, but state and local government have been cutting massively the whole time, which is why we've had barely any gains in 3 years. If state and local hadn't cut employees, we'd be at 7% unemployment.

How is that a terrible example? Less pages, sure, but still not enough time to read even half of them and form a thoughtful opinion before giving interviews on how terrible it was. 2000 pages/13 hours = 153 pages/hour 193 pages/ .66 hours = 292 pages/hour plus bill pages have a lot of white space on them e.g.: so one PPACA page has a let less words than one SCOTUS page. /pedantic quibble to a pedantic quibble

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jun 28, 2012 -> 04:32 PM) NFL Network top 100 players list, Tebow made the list, Cutler did not. Are you f***ing serious? more evidence that lists are dumb

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jun 29, 2012 -> 02:30 PM) Y2hh previously said something the effect of anyone who calls it that is a moron. I just was adding another to the moron list. He said he was going to put them on ignore, but I think everyone's had Jindal on ignore since his "volcano monitoring" SOTU response a few years ago.

It was mostly internet morons. It's a joke.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jun 29, 2012 -> 12:08 AM) Ozzie was manager of the team; that's generally regarded as a pretty important job. Weren't you just arguing earlier in this thread in favor of Ozzie basically doing nothing as manager but playing dominoes and drinking?

I have the Vanguard Stock Market fund. It seems to pay decent dividends but I don't really know what's considered "good."

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Jun 29, 2012 -> 10:19 AM) As opposed to his very clear Federalist position? Maybe it's because I'm not a lawyer, but I still don't understand how he gets around his "not a tax" distinction for AIA but "is a tax" for tax powers. But I'm inclined to believe that the AIA part was just motivated reasoning so that they could rule on this thing and not kick it down the road for a few years.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Jun 29, 2012 -> 10:20 AM) Because those types of people are really concerned with finding affordable health insurance. the joke is that the threats of "I'm leaving the US!!!" are pretty funny because literally every other wealthy western nation in the world has more of a socialized health care system than we do.

Reddit Proudly Presents: A Dummy's Guide to the PPACA! http://www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/..._did_it/c530lfx It appears to be a pretty thorough, plain-english explanation of the various provisions.

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Jun 28, 2012 -> 07:53 PM) Not really. No. I actually say that in jest...as I know you are a Nexus user. It's not the 300,000 people using Nexus phones that they need to worry about...it's the 350 million people NOT using their Nexus phone...some of which are still using Android v2.3...or even 1.2. My phone's only about a year old (Droid X2) and they haven't released an official update since 2.3. Annoying.