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Have to say, these guys certainly don't like to lose... But ick...that's a lot of money

QUOTE (SoxAce @ Dec 8, 2014 -> 08:38 PM) I still think we're gonna be keeping Alexei a year too late after this season. With that said, I'm glad he isn't in this particular deal. Me too.

QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 8, 2014 -> 08:32 PM) I like Semien a lot, but he was a great candidate to trade. Still an unconventional delivery and unconventional stats. I was excited to see how far hsi extreme ground ball rate and everything would go, but that could disappear quickly. ?

QUOTE (SoxAce @ Dec 8, 2014 -> 08:21 PM) FYI JD also has a source in the org. I hope he's wrong this time

QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 8, 2014 -> 08:18 PM) Maybe he didn't know yet? That would be some cold s***

QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Dec 8, 2014 -> 08:15 PM) What Dempster just described is not an ace, it's whatever superlative is used to a player who has a season 2-3x that of what Clayton Kershaw and his measly 7 WAR produced last season. I realize he doesn't know he just suggested that, but saying a single player will add "xxx" amount of wins to your team is just asking for WAR to be used to evaluate your assertion. I doubt he gives a s***

Going to sleep my ass...the fun doesn't begin until the 3rd old fashioned.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Dec 8, 2014 -> 08:04 PM) Chuck Garfien ‏@ChuckGarfien 23s24 seconds ago Hearing that while a Jeff Samardzija deal with #WhiteSox appears close, this might not get finalized/announced tonight. Why is the Chicago sports media so incredibly inept?

I'll give it another 15 minutes before someone breaks the deal.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 8, 2014 -> 07:29 PM) Sox fan. Loves Chicago. Wants to be closer to family. Who the f*** cares

QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 8, 2014 -> 07:29 PM) Hawkins Ding ding

QUOTE (Tony82087 @ Dec 8, 2014 -> 06:53 PM) This is going to sound cocky and it's really not meant to be, but honestly since Magglio, or to a degree Crede, who is the last White Sox position player to come up through the White Sox farm system and contribute in a meaningful way for multiple seasons? I know someone has to do it eventually, but until proven otherwise, I have a hard time getting too attached to White Sox position prospects. I'm fine dealing Anderson as well, I just think he has more value than Samardzija right now. Yeah, I hear you, but we can't allow logic to be tainted by recent history.

QUOTE (Vance Law @ Dec 8, 2014 -> 06:51 PM) Yes. That's comforting I guess. I dunno, I'm usually all for moving prospects for proven commodities but something about Semien, despite his struggles, is appealing. Probably because he's a good ball player and not just "toolsy."

QUOTE (Baron @ Dec 8, 2014 -> 06:49 PM) Oh..well it's certainly possible If he walks after this year, we make a QO and get comp?

QUOTE (Baron @ Dec 8, 2014 -> 06:47 PM) What do you mean by that? I just get the feeling Semien is going to make us regret trading him.

I just don't feel right about this...call me crazy

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Dec 8, 2014 -> 02:56 PM) By fWAR, the answer is no. League average is right around 2 WAR. Gordon's rookie year was the only time he even eclipsed 1 WAR: http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playe...amp;position=2B Oh but what a year that was

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Dec 8, 2014 -> 02:12 PM) Smith will start next season at 26, turn 27 around all star break time. I think Nieto is in AA where he belongs (remember he hadn't been above A+ before last season when he barely played, whereas Smith proved he's past AA bat-wise) and Smith in AAA. But both is certainly possible. Not the likely scenario in my view, but possible. I think Smith turns 27 next season and will be in AAA. I'll bet Nieto ends up in AA where he belongs (he hadn't been above A+ before last season).

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Dec 8, 2014 -> 12:55 PM) I am sorry but this post is just an insane overvaluation of Marcus Semien, who I happen to like. If we could get Semiene for a yr of Shark, I would do it every day and twice on Sunday because at the deadline, there is a high likelihood if we were out of contention I could sell him for far better talent than Marcus Semien. Plus, I fully expect the Sox to make a significant run at resigning Shark if we were to trade for him. Trading Tim Anderson with no intention of signing Shark to an extension, would be something I would have an issue with. Anderson has a chance to be a special player, Semien does not. You also can't view this in a vacuum, if you trade Semien for Shark, why do you just assume we go with Carlos Sanchez vs. looking at outside options (either via FA or trade)? PS: I think it is just as likely that Johnson starts at 2B anyway so now we are trading a utility guy for an above average major league starter. I don't know if I agree with the bolded...it's too early to say Marcus couldn't be a special player. That said, I'd move Semien for Shark but not Anderson.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Dec 8, 2014 -> 12:55 PM) I am sorry but this post is just an insane overvaluation of Marcus Semien, who I happen to like. If we could get Semiene for a yr of Shark, I would do it every day and twice on Sunday because at the deadline, there is a high likelihood if we were out of contention I could sell him for far better talent than Marcus Semien. Plus, I fully expect the Sox to make a significant run at resigning Shark if we were to trade for him. Trading Tim Anderson with no intention of signing Shark to an extension, would be something I would have an issue with. Anderson has a chance to be a special player, Semien does not. You also can't view this in a vacuum, if you trade Semien for Shark, why do you just assume we go with Carlos Sanchez vs. looking at outside options (either via FA or trade)? PS: I think it is just as likely that Johnson starts at 2B anyway so now we are trading a utility guy for an above average major league starter. I don't know if I agree with the bolded...it's too early to say Marcus couldn't be a special player. That said, I'd move Semien for Shark but not Anderson.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Dec 8, 2014 -> 07:41 AM) That's probably just because they are Pepsi people. More like heroin people

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Dec 5, 2014 -> 08:52 AM) Oh wow! The highest paid player in the league played well for 5 halves of football! Give him the MVP! You have such a hard on for Jay. I don't get it. He's TERRIBLE. He's not a franchise QB. Not even close. I have a hard on for Jay? Really? You don't even fully read posts or follow arguments/discussions in here anymore. As soon as you see mention of Cutler's name you just go berzerk and start posting "Jay Cutler must die!" I wasn't arguing that Jay was a franchise quarterback. I was arguing that Trestman dialed back the playbook to protect him from himself and from criticism. With this defense, a conservative, scaled-back offense wasn't going to win anything. Where do you get "franchise quarterback" in any of that?

It would just be pure awesomeness if they left FSU out

I will say this...it's not like the current practices are keeping guys healthy either.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Dec 5, 2014 -> 08:43 AM) Jay didn't start well. He lost the first game of the season by being a moron. Oh give it up already. He played well in SF and NY and most of the first half against GB.