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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 14, 2017 -> 09:39 AM) He is pretty much blowing into his Nintendo cartridges right now. Pretty soon he might want to start blowing something else

Pineda out for the year.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jul 14, 2017 -> 08:40 AM) Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal Sources: #Nationals promoting relievers Trevor Gott and Austin Adams. Sammy Solis back to minors. K-Rod not currently under consideration. The Nats bullpen is like the village bicycle. Everyone gets a turn.

QUOTE (SoxAce @ Jul 14, 2017 -> 07:43 AM) Cease's delivery reminds me so much of Rich Harden it's unbelievable. Wow, you weren't kidding! Hopefully he will be more durable than Rich was. Me likey.

QUOTE (flavum @ Jul 14, 2017 -> 06:12 AM) http://chicago.cbslocal.com/audio/laurence-holmes/ Thanks!

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jul 14, 2017 -> 06:06 AM) Professional GMs understood the true value of Quintana (although few were willing to pay it). Fans (not the Sox fans, but others) way undervalued him. But by the same token, I think fans may over value Robertson. He's 37 in WAR among relief pitchers (maybe he's better than that on the more advanced stats - don't know). I think any real value is tied to "proven closer" - which probably begins and ends with Nats. By the same token, Swarzak is #8. Wonder how high the sights are set on him; not sure where they should be set either. In regards to Robertson, that's because he's a "closer" on a team that doesn't win much. It's tied to his usage. Swarzak gets a lot of high leverage situations which ideally, on a better team or even just on a team where he was utilized more properly, David would get too.

I'll have to check it out. I love how the dude goes on the Score and doesn't say anything about it

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jul 14, 2017 -> 05:07 AM) Yeah I too thought it was a strange comment, although I'm guessing he made it catering to the meatball fans who wouldn't like us dealing with the Cubs. You are probably correct. And that is a shame.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jul 14, 2017 -> 04:55 AM) While Hahn was praised for getting good value, the only trade in which the serious media suggested he did any fleecing on was the Eaton trade. And any fleecing he did on the Eaton trade is less than the extent to which he was fleeced on the Shields trade, so I doubt any GM will hesitate in dealing with him. I think people were surprised that Hahn could get could value for these players in this environment, which is not always easy to do. Serious GMs want win-win trades. All a GM has to do is look at how Sale is pitching I didn't get the sense that Theo or the Cubs would be criticized for making this move. I actually think Theo being willing to do this somewhat dispels the notion that Rick has his sights set too high. Hopefully other GMs will step in now (Hello, Mike Rizzo!) and under the cover which Theo has provided and have the spine to augment their ballclubs.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jul 13, 2017 -> 06:09 PM) Ya, the consensus on this one is definitely that the Sox won it. Much like the Eaton deal, I love it from the Sox perspective but the team trading for our guy is getting a severely underrated player and asset on the national level. I actually wish Hahn would not say things like "This was by far the best offer we had." I'm struggling to understand the purpose of that. It would seem there is no need to embarass the Cubs that way, and secondly, no need to show other GMs that the market for prospects is as weak as it apparently is.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jul 13, 2017 -> 05:19 PM) I think Honel could have been good, he just got injured. I thought Honel was an overdraft... Maybe it's just because I know he was a huge dick at Providence.

QUOTE (StrykerSox @ Jul 13, 2017 -> 04:58 PM) Ok, the Reed thing makes me wonder, and I want some input from older folks... Back in the day, late 1990s-early 2000s, I was a pre-teen so my actual understanding of prospects was pretty limited, but it seemed like we had a pretty kickass system. Rauch, Reed, Owens, Borchard, Sweeney, Honel, Hummel, Malone, Wells, Fogg, Barcelo...just to name a few. None turned into anything for us, and very few did anything for anyone else. (I admit I may be squeezing together players from different eras too). So, that said, was our farm system ever like this? It was the #1 system right around 2000. Scouting wasn't what it was today, however, and not many of those players turned into much. That system had no Moncada, Jimenez or Kopech either.

QUOTE (flavum @ Jul 13, 2017 -> 04:26 PM) Patting myself on the back here. Just saw this tweet... https://mobile.twitter.com/670TheScore/stat...577692510334976 Respect.

QUOTE (Tony @ Jul 13, 2017 -> 04:17 PM) This is a completely reasonable response and "criticism" of the trade. I disagree with it in a lot of ways, but it's totally understandable. And I am sure RH and Co were aware of that...I am sure they would have loved to get at least one guy with the potential of Eloy that was closer, but my guess is all of those guys were "untouchable." It may very well be not that teams simply will not trade elite prospects that are near MLB ready for the foreseeable future. Sometimes you have to take the best you can get.

QUOTE (hi8is @ Jul 13, 2017 -> 03:59 PM) Juvenile humor will not be tolerated make national news. it's just hilarious that we actually found this last night

Should we create just a general reliever trade thread at this point?

QUOTE (TheTruth05 @ Jul 13, 2017 -> 03:06 PM) Has anybody seen the Rum Bunter account? Jesus he's so salty You aren't kidding

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jul 13, 2017 -> 02:37 PM) Seriously though, all of us here need to stop pretending that we know what is and isn't available. A lot of my favorite posters on this site have been doing this and it's been driving me nuts. Nobody knows what every GM is willing or not willing to give up. I don't even mind someone arguing that is the case! I just cannot stand when someone waves a hand at me without ever engaging in a discussion of why they disagree.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jul 13, 2017 -> 02:17 PM) The goal should be Robertson & cash for Kieboom & Luzardo. Hell, I'd probably throw Swarzak in too if necessary, although I'd probably want a lottery ticket added to the mix. Kieboom would provide us with a high-end prospect that could eventually fill in on the left side of the infield and Luzardo gives us a much needed left-handed arm. I love your posts, but I have to admit, this comes off as a bit presumptuous. Why should that be the goal? We've seen some crazy s*** just happen. Now we're going to immediately go back to saying that we're all crazy? I get it, Hahn isn't a miracle worker, but I, for one, am a little gunshy about saying something as prescriptive as you just did. We were just told by a few different posters something to the effect of "Guys, stop even bothering to think about a trade with the Cubs. It simply will never happen." Well, it just happened. Disclaimer: I am not meaning to insinuate this is all directed at you, CWS, you just happened to be the guy that triggered my rant. My apologies in advance.

https://www.yahoo.com/amphtml/sports/jose-q...-195650568.html

I'd expect Rosenthal to get some White Sox scoops over the next few weeks for pulling that tweet back.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jul 13, 2017 -> 10:19 AM) Holy lols Claims he didn't realize their game had started early....

Hahn says they will not force anything over the next few weeks.

Hahn asked Theo in middle of the first inning Sunday whether they still wanted starting pitching

Hahn coming on ESPN 1000 now.