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Did we become a home run team to win games or sell tickets?

Some articles mentioned the health issues to employees. I also noticed in an article that Hookah bars will be exempt if 80% of their revenues are from the sale of tobacco. I imagine that "cigar bars" would have the same exemption.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ May 2, 2007 -> 11:27 PM) Tell me how long did it take for the Indians to turn their offense around in 05 when they fired their hitting coach. And it could happen again. Or it could not. We could wind up out of the race as the players struggle to adjust to a new coach. It's a gamble either way. I think the time to change was before Spring training.

It will depend on how the law is written. Private Clubs, for example, still have to follow liquor laws, etc. Some states ban them everywhere. Link

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How much time do you think it will take a new coach to totally change the entire team's approach?

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ May 2, 2007 -> 11:17 PM) When a player goes bad. Sure its the players fault. When the entire team goes bad. Are all the players bad then. Then again based on the coaches arent at fault. We should of never fired Manuel, Nardi or Von Joshua. Teams go into a slump, using this logic, we should have fired the entire staff in September of '05. Wait, fans here wanted Oz's head then. The change should have been made before spring training.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ May 2, 2007 -> 11:04 PM) Sure because it was the offense that lead us to victory in 05. It was all those shut out innings that Cooper threw. Don't blame the players it's the coaches fault.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ May 2, 2007 -> 10:58 PM) If coaches dont mean anything. We would of won in 05 with Manuel, Nardi Contreras and Von Joshua. there was no reason to change then. Coaches dont do a thing, its the players. It's both and I think it's more the players than the coaches. Let's get the hitting coach from 2005 then.

Any thought that Walker thinks it is better to tell the public his guys are OK, while privately working on correcting flaws? It seems like a good coach would keep things positive in public and not embarrass or call out his guys. Why do we invest in players? It's all about the coaches at this level. Hell with the right coaching staff we can take any roster and have them hitting line drives and winning games.

OK, fair enough. I thought I was addressing your question. I believe that the government is allowed to regulate smoking like they do alcohol and other products. There are places where drinking alcohol is allowed, and places that are not. We license and regulate all sorts of businesses. This is no different. Bars are legal but many places have laws against locating one near a school. You can drink inside the bar, but not outside. You can drink inside the bar at 1:59 am but not 2:01 am. All of these are examples of the government regulating when and where a business owner can allow legal activities. I will concede that of all the indoor places to allow smoking, bars would be the first one.

Of course you have the right to swing your arms in public. Smokers are fouling the air, why should their rights trump the non polluter? You are saying that because smoking is legal in some places, it should be legal everywhere. Alcohol is legal, but we regulate where it can be served, how it can be served, etc. Spitting is legal, but we regulate where you can spit. Cell phones are legal, but we restrict where you can use them. I don't see a difference in these laws. If our society didn't demand new laws for new times, we could have shut down national elections after the first congressional congress.

I dropped by mTV and vH1 the other day and didn't recognize the programming. They have strayed a bit from their founding mission.

Anyone know the waste products from corn ethanol production and what is done with them? For example, used cooking oils are used for animal feed, but is also being used for bio-diesel. That has caused some increases in prices also. Even with all our waste in this country, we have been pretty efficient in finding industrial uses for waste products. Sadly, most find their way into the food chain.

QUOTE(mr_genius @ May 2, 2007 -> 06:57 PM) i said reasonable. people have been smoking in bars for a long long time. it has precedent. it's not "outrageous" to have people smoking in bars IMO. but don't support the notion of the "nanny" state protecting me from smoking, drinking, or whatever. yea, i'm one of those crazy idiots that believe in self responsibility. Of course this becomes a "your right to swing your arm ends at my nose" situation. yes, we have been smoking for centuries. We are also just beginning, on that time line, to understand the health ramifications of smoking and second hand smoke. So here is the "my nose" part of the debate. A smoker takes clean air and turns it potentially into a health risk for everyone. Should anyone have the right to alter a basic necessity of life? Whose rights trump the other? The polluters right to smoke, or the non polluters right to keep the air clean? I'm also for personal responsibility. I don't wish to breath polluted air. Why should the polluter be protected?

QUOTE(LVSoxFan @ May 2, 2007 -> 06:44 PM) You know what's a really clinical, brutal way to see a game like this? Like I did today, on MLB live. You'd watch the Sox batter come up, watch the pitches scroll by on the bottom of the screen, watch the out get registered. Over and over and over again. Like a bad movie.

QUOTE(mr_genius @ May 2, 2007 -> 06:39 PM) if you owned a department store and wanted to make it "clothes optional" you could. if you owned a video rental store you could allow drinking in it. Walmart and Blockbuster have decided they do not want either activities in their store. that is their right as a business. it's not a question of "people have the right to do whatever they want, whenever they want". it's a question of letting a business decide what reasonable and legal activities they can have in their establishment. I believe in most locations you would need a liquor license to have alcohol in your video store. Carrying a gun is legal, yet the state has banned it in many locations like schools, banks, bars, etc. Should they have a choice? You can drive 55 in some places but not others. You can go fishing in this water, but not there. You can park here, but not there. There are so many examples of restricting legal activities to specific locations, times, etc. You can bet on horses here, but not there. Actually I'm not certain you can have a nudist shop open to the public. Since you can't have clothing optional bars without special permits, I'm not so certain you could have a clothing optional department store.

If you own a car dealership and want to open on Sunday you should be able to. Why do we have these laws? Because industry likes them. If all the bars are smoke free, the bars save the money on smoking related issues. Since people would have to drive to Wisconsin or Indiana for a smoke and a shot, it probably won't effect their bottom line. Just because something is legal, doesn't mean you can do it anywhere you want. Try stripping at WalMart or drinking at Blockbuster. What is Illinois doing about Hookah bars?

I understand blocking me from mlb.tv if the game is available on my cable/sat system. But when I am blocked out and the game isn't available, that's wrong.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ May 2, 2007 -> 05:49 PM) So then that begs the question...what should be done? Should we just ride out this cold streak and be willing to sacrifice the season if it goes on for a couple more weeks while Thome is out? That is the heart of the question. Would the next coach be able to fix all the problems in less time? Would his approach be any better? I haven't seen where Walker has lost their trust, would Dye turn his swing over to another coach because K-Dub* thinks the next guy is better? If the new guy doesn't turn it around in a couple weeks and the team is still within striking distance, do they switch again? I kind of like the K-Dub for Kenny Williams.

QUOTE(StrangeSox @ May 2, 2007 -> 05:34 PM) When everyone on the team is having the same problems, you need to look at the common factors. Greg thinks these guys have great mechanics now and has retooled several players' swings in the past to be homerun swings (which sent their ability to hit line drives into the gutter). He is just not a good hitting coach. It takes more than a day or two to rework a swing. He should have been gone last off season. Either way could spell disaster, I prefer to think of this as a slump, it happens to every team, every season. 2005 it happened late. Switching coaches everytime they slump and we'll have the 2007 Edition of College of Coaches. But hey, I'm a conservative guy

How much credit are y'all giving the coach? To listen to this place Crede = A-Rod with a better hitting coach. These guys have to step up and start playing. If these guys started blaming the coaches you would all starting howling how they are scape goating. I am certain everyone of these guys has been watching tape of when they could hit. Y'all are making a bunch of excuses for guys who are slumping or not playing up to their potential.

Is there really a link between social studies and AIDs? I'm confused on that one. I like a bipartisan bill.

QUOTE(fathom @ May 2, 2007 -> 02:57 PM) Yep, I'm keeping this to myself until it becomes public. When the names from this story are released, I'll simply say yes those are the guys I was referring to or they aren't. I'll bet they will be. Makes you seem cooler with inside information I kid because I care™ Used by permission. All rights reserved. Not valid in Alaska or Hawaii. Tip your waiters

I wonder how many players were traded a few years back when their teams suspected them of steroids. There are a probably a few teams that *botched* trades back then.