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QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Apr 3, 2007 -> 05:18 PM) Well not really. I don't know how I feel about forcing the rest of America to pick up the cost of immigration through higher taxes related to higher costs to service non-English speakers. But I do know that the idea of immigrants coming here and picking up English in 3 easy steps is a complete falsehood historically. Most immigrants tended to settle into areas of like speakers. They did not learn English as a rule. Their kids on the other hand DID learn English and were the ones to assimilate into America. The initial generation immigrants tended to congregate into areas where people already spoke their language, so the pressure to assimilate wasn't really there. If you don't believe me, look at neighborhood maps of older US cities, and tell me how many "Chinatowns", "Greektowns", "Germantowns" etc that you find. The ethnic neighborhoods were huge in the 19th century with the large immigrant waves. Great points. Living in an area that is 85% Hispanic and overwhelming Spanish speaking, I know first hand how easy it is to only speak Spanish here. Every business employees bi-lingual clerks because of all the tourists from Mexico who shop here.

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Apr 3, 2007 -> 01:51 PM) I agree... but why is Russia parroting this crap? They still need our help and aid. It's the right thing to do. Notice they did toss a couple bones to the Iranians as being able to win. Any number of reasons. I am certain the Brits and Yanks knew that Russia would have the best chance to be heard and influence.

I believe the comments were orchestrated by Britian and the US to put some pressure on the Iranians. But, hell, why bring those soldiers all the way home next year? Let's start another war and keep ridin' the storm out. slightly green until I realized it's crazy enough to be true.

Final thought and I will probably shut up. Using the situations this law seeks to address; the current system, where a judge or jury decided the merits of a case, using the facts of that exact case, is fairer than a system that presupposes years in advance, all the facts of a case and that all cases are without merit. I just do not like cutting off access to our legal system to any innocent person.

We'll have to see the final language. The wording so far is so vague. "Good faith" is rather a messy term. But regardless of the language, the intent of the law is stopping innocent people from seeking redress in a court of law. I think we ought to be very cautious. The saving lives argument is a strong one. I just don't see this law as helping in that area. How many people would rather die than face a potential lawsuit? For this law to actually work the following scenario has to happen. A passenger sees something that looks suspicious to them. They decide that the risk of being in a lawsuit is greater than potentially dying, so they keep quiet. The person is actually a terrorist and blows up the plane. I just don't see that happening. I think the terrorists will be better trained as to not seem suspicious. I place more faith in metal detectors, screenings, and other security techniques, than someone being silenced because they fear a law suit.

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QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Apr 3, 2007 -> 02:26 AM) The only true way to learn history is follow current events in your lifetime. All you can do in regards to events before that is study the past from different viewpoints and decide for yourself what actually happened. You'll never get a fair and balanced opinion on anything from anybody anymore, thus it's harder than ever to be educated, despite the fact it's easier than ever with modern technology to be intelligent. (I hope that made sense to SOMEBODY besides me). I believe you never could get a perfectly balanced and fair newscast. What would seem balanced and fair to Alpha Dog would appear conservatively biased to Rex and what Rex would find balanced and fair would seem ciased to Alpha Dog. And both would have Kap yelling GORACLE, IMPEACH BUSH

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Apr 3, 2007 -> 06:37 AM) So wait, are you saying that laws shouldn't change, or that we shouldn't have any new laws? I agree that the victims deserve more protection that they get in most cases. Besides, our great legal system actually has protections against the false accusations that Tex is more worried about than the potential dead people that everyone else is more worried about. There are statutes already against false accusing, perjury etc. There is no real protection for potential victims, only people who are already victims. And I don't know about you, but I have no desire to be the target of a fatwa. I have got to be honest here, I would actually be leary of reporting any strange activity of a person who looked to be a Muslim, because I would fear for my families lives if I did. I almost literally would have to see them placing a bomb or something before I would say something in this day and age. As soon as someone links to an attack that could have been prevented if someone wasn't afraid to speak up, your point about potential bombing victims makes sense. Funny it takes a lawsuit by an unpopular group to spark this. I wonder if it was a group of Methodist Pastors who were turned in by a group of Muslims if the same legislation would be enacted? (No need to answer this) Or at least we did before this legislation.

Isn't it interesting that as Sox fans, we aren't clammering to make English the official language of the team? If accepting any player who can make a contribution regardless of language, strengthens the team, wouldn't that also work for most businesses and then our country? Just tossing that out.

Just a small comment. I am certain you have a great reason to run your weight up to that level. Along the way, think of your workouts as a lifetime journey, and build it in a way that you can sustain throughout your life.

QUOTE(CanOfCorn @ Apr 2, 2007 -> 06:08 PM) I didn't realize Diana Ross was that into politics... . Stop in the name of love . . .

There are three things that can happen during the season. 1) The player's value goes up. 2) The player's value goes down. 3) The player's value stays the same. The contract negotiations could make the player A) Feel better and motivated. B) Stay the same. C) Feel unwanted and perhaps distracted. The Good: 1A, 1B The Bad: 1C, 2A, 2B, 2C The Ordinary: 3B

QUOTE(The Critic @ Apr 2, 2007 -> 09:21 AM) And now the "Please, Mark Cuban, Buy The Cubs" campaign begins. Or more accurately, it picks up steam, since Cubs fans have wanted Cuban to buy the team for a while now. I would love to see Cuban own a baseball team, but any team other than the Cubs. I think he would be successful.

QUOTE(FlaSoxxJim @ Apr 2, 2007 -> 09:30 AM) Uh, yeah, it's now April 2nd. Duh. Or maybe, we are all playing a joke on you and it's really April 1, Sunday, and you don't need to be working.

QUOTE(NUKE @ Apr 2, 2007 -> 09:49 AM) For 200 years we've also never had a bunch of people filing lawsuits against other people for reporting suspicious activity. Vigilance used to be regarded as a virtue and praised but in 2007 America it's suddenly a violation of people's supposed rights and we file lawsuits against it. bunch of people? I thought it was one case? I'm not finding any other cases. I am worried when based on one case, we rewrite our laws, taking away the rights of innocent people and giving them to people who may or may not be making an innocent mistake. I can't believe I am the only person standing up for the rights of innocent people to seek justice in our legal system. I would be willing to consider it as soon as someone is actually required to pay damages for falsely accusing someone. But so far, that hasn't happened.

QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Apr 2, 2007 -> 09:22 AM) I agree that there are certain age straddles that won't work. You can't have a remedial 17-year old in with the third graders. For those on the extremes, there need to be some remedial classes. But that's a small number. Most kids will naturally progress in a small band, with most kids being only a year or two different in some areas (and less in others) than their peers, even up to high school age. We shouldn't make the rules based on the exceptions to them. For phys ed, like any classes, different kids move at different paces. In fact, I think P.E. is one of the classes most in need of NOT being socially promoted, especially when you get to junior high and early high school, when there is a huge physical discrepancy in the development of kids the same age. Most sixth graders are 11, so 13 or 14 would be fairly common without a push to keep the kids on grade level. What happens a lot is kids miss years when their parents are following work. I agree that social promotion is full of problems and needs to be carefully used. Which is why I believe programs need to be developed if we drop bilingual education. Interesting point on PE.

QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Apr 2, 2007 -> 09:06 AM) I strongly disagree. These kids will need to socialize with a continuous flow of people in their lives from all different age groups and backgrounds. School should be no different. The social learning aspect of school is of course of great importance - but that isn't a reason for social promotion. In fact, I'd say its an argument against it in some ways. Kids will still have a number of other kids around them most of the time (because in most classes, the age bad will still be pretty narrow), and most of them will move at similar paces, so there is still the chance for lifelong bonds to form. But they will also get some younger, and older, kids in different classes. I think that's a big positive. Having thirteen and fourteen year olds in a 6th grade classroom is not good. There are ages and stages that kids go through and that mix is a nightmare for educators. There are many child protection issues at play here. Even things like physical education and play time at recess become issues. After school programs to help kids stay on track should be emphasized to minimize these issues.

QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Apr 2, 2007 -> 08:49 AM) Which gets at another problem in our schools - social promotion. I think its time we accept that just ushering all children from year to year at the same pace of learning is not effective. As it relates to ESL students, they can start with a crash course in English, then slowly back that off as they get better, and start slowly putting them into other classes. I think the focus shouuld be on assuring that the kids do not get left behind. Having mixed age classrooms can be distracting to the other students.

QUOTE(Alpha Dog @ Apr 2, 2007 -> 08:38 AM) The GOP isn't writing textbooks, isn't sitting in classrooms refusing to tell students about Watergate because it might offend some Republicans and are not going to riot if offended by history. Completely different. When American schools start refusing to teach about to history because it might offend Muslims, we are toast. Which do you remember more, something in your 8th grade history class, or what is happening yesterday in the news?

The reason that bilingual caught any momentum is the kids fall behind in every other subject as they attempt to master English. I've yet to see a method that allows the kids to remain on grade level in social studies, math, science, etc. and not receive that instruction in Spanish. What I think we need are more after school programs to offer tutoring, in native languages, in the other subjects. It will take more of an effort to keep the kids on track, but if we make it a priority, it can happen. And, btw, being bilingual is a nice advantage in a world economy.

QUOTE(Alpha Dog @ Apr 2, 2007 -> 07:50 AM) I agree with you, disagree with Tex. The first draft of history is found in newspapers, listened to on radio, and watched on TV. The GOP is telling you that any criticism of themselves is a result of liberal media bias. How is that any different? No need to answer, just something to think about.

"History is written by the victors."Winston Churchill It will happen here if the GOP has their radio network call for it as a way to fight terrorists. We already are taught to ignore newspapers, tv, and radio journalists if they do not agree with GOP positions and propoganda. Why not, for example, tell their children the official GOP History Lessons like Nixon was unfairly attacked by a liberal biased media? As soon as school children listen to the GOP Radio Network and understand their text books are written by a liberal biased education system, we'll be well on our way. And I believe that will be the Methods Class you will applaud

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