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OK. Would you agree that they are knowingly killing civilians? If a Palestinian targets a soldier with a suicide bomb, and they know he is sitting on a crowded bus of school kids, have they "targeted" those kids?

I know this was meant for a laugh and you know better The computers were so slow in the 1950's they couldn't do much more than that. Not withstanding the environmental jab, a kid today with 1950's math skills would be locked out of many job markets. With calculators and computers, just figuring 4/5 of 100 isn't going to feed the bulldog. Kids are working quadratic equations in middle school. That was an *optional* HS course in the 1950s. At the HS level we have made so many statewide mandates (at least in Texas) as to curriculm, kids have almost no electives. That is a bigger concern of mine. The problems given kids on standardize tests have increased tremendously over the years. Here is a nice review of how one standardize test has changed from 1950 onward. Note the section that many problems from older tests are too easy today. Link One final thought. If a HS grad with 1950 skills entered your office, what job would he have? What did we take out to teach kids computers? And theres more history to learn

Guess what. As a country we failed. Notice the difference between WTC1 and WTC2. Do you think if we hit the streets and flew flags and held meetings, a prayer groups, early on that collectively *our* government would have ignored it? One of the complaints my GOP friends made against Clinton was every morning he put his finger to the wind and read the polls to see what he should believe in today. If that was true, would he have ignored the American people if after the first attack on the WTC we had gathered, prayed, sang songs, and demanded action? If we bought up every Made in China US flag after the first attack by terrorists on a US Ship do you Clinton would have ignored us? Part of Clinton's problem was the whole Monica affair made him very inneffective. I blame him for that. If he did jump up and down and said let's get Bin Laden the talk shows would have been alive with tail wagging the dog references and claims he was trying to divert our attention from his problems. And who would have believed terrorists were planning to fly planes into the WTC? Again, this is Clinton's fault for getting a hummer in the Oval Office. As far as Bush only having 9 months, we do not have a patronage system in the FBI, CIA, etc. How much experience does it take to read a memo that says terrorists are planning to fly a plane into a building? If it takes him two or three years to figure out how to react, he's denser than I thought. It's a 4 year term. He was 20% through his term when 9/11 happened. The various agencies give you a report and ask you to react. As Americans we have to be more vigilent.

It is the best way to run a large country. It is very costly. We have so many different government entities because of it. I sometimes wonder if I need city, country, state, and national governments. Then toss in School Districts, Water Districts, district this and district that, a couple regional thigns, and my head spins how much tax dollars are being spent.

dammit, I was laughing and crying at the same time

A. I do not feel we should let Bin Laden determine our course of history. Isn't he already rejoicing that we care what he thinks and will vote based on him? Doesn't that give him a victory already? B. The Pres is one of thousands that play a part of our anti-terror program. If we are worried about what switching Presidents will do should we start a Bush 2008 campaign? If this was his second term would we be arguing we can't change Presidents now?

Instead of the religious groups, I dislike suburban people telling me what to do and what I can listen to. They meet in their PTAs, and in there parks, and plot this stuff. What right do they have? I think if you are a religious person, you should forfeit your right to have any say in US policies. You shouldn't even be allowed to vote. What right do they have? And old people with their AARP cards. No votes, no letters to editors, no voice in America.What right do they have? And the NRA, gun nuts. Take away their voting cards.What right do they have? And SUV drivers. They should have no votes since they are just wasting resources.What right do they have? And Independents, this is a two party system, they should not have any votes.What right do they have? And Republicans with their Neanderthal clinging to the past, no votes.What right do they have? And Democrates with their wild ideas. Why do they get votes?What right do they have? If you are part of any group, you are not allowed to vote or voice your concern. As long as we can lump you together with someone else, you're outta here. What right do they have? Democracy, who the hell needs it? What right does a group of Americans have to lobby congress and make their feelings known? How dare they. Do they think that is the American way? Cali, you are correct. The religious right should have no rights. They are un American. At least one person here understands democracy, freedom of speech, and how our constitution works. Only atheist who belong to no groups should be allowed to run this country.

Part 1 is exactly correct. One side note: There is a difference in taking out a factory and taking out a person. This difference is noted in International Law. But setting that distinction aside . . . You just proved my point. They knew innocent people would be killed. Doesn't that mean the innocent people were targeted? How can one simultaniously argue one side would never target innocents, then claim it's a normal sad side effect of war? The civilians were factored into the equation. The innocent make up part of the target. Both sides in this conflict have knowingly killed civilians. Then they engage in a debate whether their side's reasons for killing innocent people is better than the other side's reasons. Then they cheer the deaths. If you know you will be killing civilians, they are targeted. If you want to hide behind "we needed to take out this person and killing 1 or 10, or 100 women, children, and men civilians was unavoidable" that's fine but do not then come back and say my side never targets innocents. Just to toss an idea for debate out there, There are fugitives from US Law in Mexico, should be toss a missle into the cars of these fugitives? Some of these are the biggest drug lords. Should we send in an Apache helicoptor and take them out?

that was so cool

You know what, this isn't much different than Columbine or any of the other School tradegies. Same age group, same despare, only there they have some idiot ready to make them "heros". :headshake

All I kept thinking is Paula Abdul has a job!

That 72 virgin thing really messes with a 14 year olds mind. Some dorky, pimply faced kid who can't get any is promised to be a hero and get sex with 72 virgins . . .

Don't you just hate it when a f*cking adult comes in ruins the fun? Who invited you to this kegger?

Link to whole article I do not care that he did seem to be targeting soldiers. Using a 14 year old kid is sick. Fight your wn battles, don't get children to do it for you. BTW I4E, Physicians for Human Rights condemned the act. I know you thought they never condemned Palestinians for anything. Here's an example, and it is in a Israeli newspaper.

dammit buy me dinner and get me drunk first oops that should have been in green

Cut off his hand.

Actually after I thought about it I was invited to go f*ck myself a couple time. And various people offered the suggestion I stick some opinions up my ass.

I moderate a board here and no one has offered me sex

I heard a gal pal of mine relate how she knew she was in a serious relationship with this guy because he held her hair out of her face when she threw up. :puke

Forget the obvious how about the passing gas? really eating? My wife ate nothing but salad for months and months when we were first dating.

New Employee, dreads the first crap he has to take Been there for a while, comfortable in taking a dump; hey Bob, I wouldn't go in tehre for a while disgruntled employee; pisses on floor I'm quiting as soon as I get a decent offer; s***s on walls I guess it beats a weapon Am I right? Isn't the last hurdle to starting a new job the bathroom? Same thing in a relationship? At the girlfriends or boyfriends and you really really have to go.

Of course you do, you're married and doable

What a terrible poem. Aren't these are friends who cheer the Bears, Bulls, and Hawks with us? Are they not our friends who would jump in a minute on a Sox bandwagon a cheer along with us? :fthecubs NO! The Bastards! They're the assholes who cut us off on the Ike. They are the idiots that jump in the other lane when they see a merge and try to get in way up there, they're the MFers who get in the correct change lane without any change and then want to cut over. They're the ones who bring the crying kids into the restaurant when I'm trying to eat in peace. They're the ones tat like to take a nice beer leak in a trough like some animal. They are the ones who take 18 items in the 10 items and less lane at Jewel. :fyou By the way, Great Poem

A batted #2 for 6 seasons. It was, by far, my favorite spot in the order.