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Quit calling me Shirley

I have to believe, by this weekend, JayMo will be falling over himself with praise for Frank and echoing Ozzies, please do not do this and them pout.

Then is it justified if one Israeli soldier is standing at a bus stop and only a couple civilians get killed? Or is it only ok for Israel to kill civilians? I cannot believe killing civilians is ever justified, but hey that's just me and International Law.

Would you kill Israeli innocents if it meant taking out a Hamas leader or is it just ok to kill Palestinian innocents?

the elephant walk is an after game tradition (in some teams) that involves mass quantities of beer, then forming a line where each guy grabs the trunk of the fellow in front of him. They then march around the bar. Shocking everyone in site. It is considered rude to swing the trunk of the fellow in front of you too much, or it may appear gay. ChiSoxy would not be able to play

Of course if I4E didn't agree with it, he would offer it as proof that the world is anti-semite

Holy crap. Thomas is sounding like and elder statesman and team leader If Frank keeps this up for the rest of his career, PR wise, I will revise my prediction on when he gets elected to the HOF to second ballot, make a WS apearance and he's an outside chance at 1st. I would love to read was corg is saying about this. He advocated Frank just shut up and never talk to the media.

Let me be frank, No you got to be frank last night . . .

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Answer the f***ing question. Is it ok to kill innocent people if it means taking out a terrorist?

And you will only believe things that have Israel as perfect. Anything that would criticize Israel is racist and wrong.

Does that mean you can take out innocent people as well?

Isn't that I4E's nickname

Does France have a National Guard? Maybe Bush could get credit for theirs also? Let me see if I get this straight: Bush has been after Bin Laden since 9/11 He and his regime has not found Binny so far Bin Laden would be dancing if Bush stopped looking and Kerry started?! Is "W" the only one looking? Do we rehire every intelligence agent after an election? Nice election year rhetoric but in the end it is meaningless. US Policy towards catching Bin Laden is not going to change under Kerry. Does anyone think that Kerry wouldn't love to catch Bin Laden and show the world how great the democratic party is? Boy catching Bin Laden when Bush failed would be terrible for mid term elections and Kerry's popularity.

don't go there

Thank you Steff. In summary, I think the Israelis and Palestinians have been dealt a very unfair hand to play. Both sides have been wronged by the other. Violence does not stop violence Humans are basically capable of great good and great evil, sometimes at the same time. Some people are too dug in to compromise, and they are the negotiators. There are people involved on both sides that want the killing to continue if it means they may get 100% of whatever they are after Sending bombs and missles into neighborhoods is wrong. Killing anybody is wrong, in war, killing the enemy is justified, killing civilians is never justified Assassinations are wrong, especially if you have to kill others at the same time. You cannot sink the to the other side's depth of depravity and remain pure You cannot use one act of violence as justification for another and not be an aggressor at least once Sometimes killing someone just maks you feel better Sometimes watching your enemies mourn the loss of their people makes you feel better Some people are blindly loyal You can't wake someone who is pretending to be asleep What goes around comes around, be prepared The average Israeli and the average Palestinan have no control over this Terrorists do not follow orders or have honor, they are criminals. They do not have any code of ethics Soldiers have codes of ethics and honor. If the soldiers stoop to terrorist ethics and methods, they become terrorists. A uniform doesn't make the difference, behavior does.

Is Israel trying to be the moral equivements of the Palestinians? Is that how they judge their behavior, by those of the Palestinians? Doesn't that make them no better than the Palestinians? Is it intentional if you send a missle that is accurate to within 50 yards, into a neighborhood and it hits an innocents home instead of the person targeted? Is it intentional if you assassinate an innocent because he looked like a guilty person, or are these mistakes that Israel is allowed to make and still remain perfect? If a Hamas leader is sitting in a car with an unidentified person, is it ok to kill them both? I'm not saying these things have happened, just wondering how you define intentional? As I recall the US military speaks of unavoided damage, that not all weapons are perfect.

And the hit squad was treated differently, since they were Israeli, and received sentences from 2 to 5 years for the murders they served less than 24 months. If I follow I4E's logic this is ok because; There are no innocent Palistinians Since this was in revenge for the 1972 Olympics, any method is justified. How accurate is this account? Linky

And take Wirtz with you I guess SS2K4 doesn't understand the sentiment

Who says government work doesn't pay

Notice that OZ is already thinking about the moping Frank, the brooding, moody, Frank. I'm hoping Oz can keep Frank pumped.

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Is there anything that Israel cannot do to defend itself? Or is any tactic OK? Since innocent Israeli children have been killed, can Israel target innocent Palestinian children? Is it ok for either side to target specific leaders for assassination? Is it ok for either side to send missles into neighborhoods? If one home on the block has military personnel or terrorists, is it ok for either side to send a missle in, knowing innocent people may be killed? It seems to me that APU will defend almost any Palestinian action and I4E will defend any Israeli action. And they both use the exact same arguments. He did it first. His crimes are worse. Once again, it is so nice to hear that Israel has bever made a mistake. Their bombs and missles never strayed, never hit innocents. They have never once acted out of revenge. Never once lacked restraint in acting. Never once used violence against them as justification for violence towards the Palestinians. Always followed INternational Law. Oops, they just violated International Law, except I4E doesn't seem to think International Law aplies to Israel, only if Israel needs to be defended. If you believe revenge is ok, then you have to agree that Palistinian acts of revenge on the recent assassination is all fair game. As long as both sides think they are justified in killing, killing will continue. And I think some people will be glad. Better death than to compromise.

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