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I do not envy Biden and the challenge he has in front of him. He needs to keep the folks that flipped and try to build from there. What will be interesting is what the folks that came out specifically because of Trump (for or against) will do during the midterms. For better and worse Trump drove participation.

Slackers. Texas topped one million total. Stop the count!

So Katz never played at the MLB yet were all excited to have him as a pitching coach. In a few years I could see him develop into a MLB manager.

If he follows his cycle he'll be too old to drive by the time he's due for a third.

A sign of the coming apocalypse, Tex voted for twice as many Republicans as SS2k5.

One last note before I bow out of the discussion. I lost my brother to drunk driving. I am proud that Sox fans are upset enough about drunk driving to put that above the team. I want TLR off the roads to protect himself, other people on the roads, and his family from the heartbreak mine faced. I would appreciate if you are going to contact Sox sponsors you also contact the prosecutor and demand strong penalties for a repeat offender like TLR. Make this more than just protecting the image of our team and getting a better manager.

Sadly it's not. Especially when people care more about his job status than his court date. I'd love to see a couple thousand letters to the prosecutor.

Of course they can protest anyway they want. I'll defend their right. I can also point out when a protest is ineffective and potentially damaging to the very thing you are trying to fix. JR's income isn't changed by sponsors pulling out. The team just pulls back from signing any free agents and moves on. TLR isn't punished either. Even firing him isn't going to stop him from driving drunk. He wasn't managing when he got his second. So sponsors pull advertising. JR still is part owner of a very nice monopoly, TLR goes back to his estate and continues retirement, and a couple reps take a hit in commission and the team doesn't sign any players.

This is one reason I'm against mandatory sentences. There should be a way to at least cause it to be a prior and stay on the record. Many times judges and prosecutors are reluctant to proceed when the minimum sentence is harsher than what they believe is fair justice. Impaired is impaired. So one glass of mine mixed with some meds and he can't drive. Still no excuse. There are warnings on meds. I might even cut someone slack if it was their first. But when you are facing a second that book should hit so hard that society is protected from a third.

How many fans across the nation wanted the ex Astros guys to manage their club? Plenty of Bulls fans cheered for Rodman when he changed jerseys. I agree with SS2k5 when he mentioned lifetime suspensions. I think a 2nd DUI should warrant a lifetime suspension. I think I'll call Geico and see if they will help make that happen.

How about this? When writing or calling sponsors thank them for their support of the team. Explain you are certain they share your outrage over the hiring of TLR and would appreciate a statement from the company denouncing drunk driving especially by people in high visibility leadership positions within the community. but fall short of asking them to stop advertising with the team.

There would be outrage the day after. Then additional outrage a day after his suspension was complete and their team didn't sign him.

I agree. There are very rare exceptions. For example Tiger hadn't had a drink. He was impaired.

I'm not certain how immoral was introduced. What we are discussing is an organized by Soxtalk campaign to get sponsors to drop advertising unless the team fires TLR. I'm against it because it directly harms team workers and will not be effective. A MLB team is a monopoly that can't go out of business. JR will continue to collect his pay as President and the franchise will continue to grow in value. The only guaranteed response to drops in is a decrease in spending on players.

OK, yes I'm certain there are situations that I would be in favor. This isn't one because I don't think it's effective and there are other avenues to punish TLR. JR is a minority partner in a monopoly that will continue to grow in value. The team in which he is president will simply cut expenses. The team rarely makes a profit as they have shown through the years. So this plan to add the additional punishment you want is a longshot at best that passes through some workers who I'm assuming are good people who don't deserve to be harmed by the actions TLR.

A step further comparing wanting one punishment over another for DUI to supporting slavery? What a horrible accusation to make. You act like I want TLR forgiven or something. You rejected without knowing what punishment the courts will give him in favor of a trickle up punishment that will first harm working people and likely won't affect anyone else. When revenue drops JR isn't harmed. The team will simply cut expenses like salaries. So you are advocating for a plan that I believe will not even impact the people you want to have it impact. But it will affect the team's sales representatives who I do not believe are slaves.

Take it a step further? This is a discussion about how to punish someone for a wrongdoing. I believe enslaving people was a much greater issue to society than how to punish someone for a DUI. There is a punishment system in our country. I want him fully punished to the extent if the law. I am not willing to fight a civil war and have millions die because he had a DUI. But I would be to end slavery. I am actually outraged you could even put slavery and DUI on the same level. Edit to add: Now that I understand the point that SS2k5 was making I would like to add his point is valid in that there are situations where workers are being exploited and it is bad the support those businesses. Economic pressure does make sense and I would support protests in those situations.

Actually the opposite. I want fans to complain. I also would love a million letters to the prosecutor to make sure they know the world is watching and wants justice served. I just don't want to sacrifice working men and women in the process.

So what will the team do if revenue drops? The team president will take a pay cut? The team will spend less on acquiring free agents and resigning players? The team rarely turns a profit. The owners have made money on the value of the franchise.

It's interesting how minimum wage got dragged into this. In a sense it's analogous to trickle down economics. Some want trickle up punishment. Wipe out enough employees and JR will be forced to fire Larussa. Sure eventually Larussa will fall, but Larussa will fall on the bodies of working men and women and that cost is too high for me. Lost in all this I seem to be the only one to be advocating for a letter writing campaign to the one entity that can directly punish Larussa, the courts. Why accept they won't punish him for a second DUI?

So don't pressure the courts to stop these lenient sentences. Instead compete with the sales reps from the team? Because if the rep can't make a sale eventually the punishment will trickle up? How about all that effort is placed at the court he's appearing in to make certain justice is served? Minimum wage is load of crap that big business loves. It's a false number. We should be fighting for a livable wage that is established by the poverty rate. I went door to door campaigning in the city of McAllen and we got livable wage into law for the city and anyone who contracts with the city. It can be done.

I'm going to write law makers proposing "Tony's Law" which requires first time offenders to not just complete a one time alcohol awareness class and victims impact panel but complete one annually. Clearly the lessons are forgotten over time by some. I believe it would be a lasting tribute to a Hall of Famer and keep his legacy of drunk driving alive for people to learn from. Perhaps a media campaign to have JR endorse it.

Actually quite the opposite. I'm not for a minimum wage, I'm for a livable wage, which is generally much higher. I'm picking the working class in this and you think I want to shit on people seeking minimum wage. Where the hell is that logic? I'm suggesting we punish the fuck out of Larussa without screwing over the guys working for a paycheck. You want to screw over the working guys in hopes it will punish JR and Tony. Whose fighting for regular workers?

Think Tony is inviting the guys out for a beer to get to know them?

Complain. Keep the media campaign alive. Burn jerseys. But really how about demanding tougher DUI laws? How about doing something to stop DUIs instead of just trying to get a manager you like? Require Breathalyzers for people convicted of DUI. How about all this anger doing something to really benefit society? Making certain that after two convictions he never drives again. Imagine actually doing something for society.