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My only point is people have to follow the rules. The original point was IF IF IF we're going to open at 25% capacity then people have to be responsible or forced into responsibility. Close bars that won't enforce 25%. Arrest people. Do whatever. Balta I believe wants to wait until they can operate at 100% or don't open at all.

Once again I agree we need stronger laws. Best of all then nobody needs to follow them. Happy now?

One more time. Yes, we need solid public health policies. And if people ignore that beautiful public health policy nothing changes.

Agreed. As we've seen if people don't follow the laws it keeps getting worse.

I don't have a need for a delivery driver so I eliminate it. I actually hardly order restaurant food so not hiring someone to pick up my food is easy.

I'm at a golf tournament. No touching the rakes, flags, no water coolers, no contact at all. At school anything anyone touches is treated as being contaminated. So maybe I'm being too careful.

Agreed. And as I stated before Owners need to be responsible and stay closed. People need to stay away from illegally opened dining rooms. And police need to responsibly apply the law.

Exactly. Big muscles are better than small muscles under pressure. I've seen really good players dead wrist wedges to 150 yards. With today's balls you get plenty of control without a hard release.

Several people said that doesn't work.

I wonder if y'all are thinking that's what I'm saying. Actually the opposite. Following the rules is less individual freedom, more intervention, and greater government. I want more conformity to laws, not less.

Than what have I said that you disagree with?

Maybe y'all have different delivery scenarios than what I'm thinking. There is basically one restaurant that I still visit. Metro Taco Stop has been a regular three or so days a week stop for me for about three years. Raul is the owner and he has a cook. That's the entire staff. Before entering you must use hand sanitizer and wear a mask. No exceptions. The cook hands the food to Raul and he hands it to me. He opens at 6:30 and I'm using there at 6:45. Normally he has about 20 tables, now he has four. If no one is there, and rarely at that hour is anyone there, I will dine in. I know he has disinfected the table using a product that is equal to what we use at my school. If someone is there I will take it to go. If someone arrives while I'm waiting the five minutes or so for my order he knows to change my order to go. I don't believe having Raul hand that to a different random delivery guy each day who then adds my bag to the other bags and then the driver visits other area restaurants that I don't know how clean they are is very safe. I want to see the process. With contact tracing I understand that everyone that the delivery driver has come in contact with is a potential source of infection. Perhaps that is being overly cautious. Maybe those delivery services have put in greater safety protocols that make you comfortable. And, I'll be honest, the fees are crazy. Just something to consider. I know y'all just want to prove how wrong I am. But adding potentially infected people to the process isn't in your best interest. If you can, go get that food yourself. It will save you some money and IMHO reduce somewhat your risk.

You guys are adding more to my stance than is there. I believe people need to be responsible and follow, at a minimum, any rules that are in place. I understand that some of you disagree. I can't change your mind and y'all haven't changed mine. Just please when you are being irresponsible don't come around me.

I've never said that restaurants should be open. I've said if you close them people must follow the law for that to work. How many more must die before people start following the rules? Good question that you need to answer. I believe we need to start following the rules right fucking now or this keeps getting worse. How is not following the rules responsible and solving this pandemic?

So would a responsible or irresponsible person dine in a restaurant? San Antonio Metro Health advised against touching anything a stranger touches. Treat it all as possibly contaminated. How is that a bad policy? Which is safer, you picking up your food or someone else picking up your food and delivering it to you? Adding people, each one possibly infected, is not safer.

I'm really trying. I'm all for passing a law closing dining rooms. What I've been saying is that law only works if Owners responsibility close their dining room. People responsibly stay away from illegally operating dining rooms. Police responsibly enforce the laws. Just passing a law closing dining rooms isn't enough. And I've been in enough contact tracing training to know we need to limit person to person contact. One delivery driver in a day contacts more people than you or I would in a month. It's one of the worst case scenarios in the training and why I will always pick up food orders myself and quarantine all of my Amazon orders. Use this example. A delivery person tests positive. Over the past two weeks they may have touched items that hundreds of other people have received. Who has been in their vehicle and were they wearing a mask, sneezing, etc. Do you see the nightmare? Now check those hundred for how many people they interacted with. Add in they are more likely to economically at risk and unable to take time off without dire consequences. All four of the health officials told us they avoid delivery at all costs.

And delivery. Typhoid Mary should be our warning that Grub Hub etc. is a disaster waiting to happen. Responsible restaurant owners and police will keep the dining rooms closed. If irresponsible restaurant owners leave the dining rooms open, if people continue to disobey the law and visit those places operating illegally, and the police don't enforce the law, it won't make much of a difference what the law is. Viruses don't follow the law.

RIP Van Halen. I was texting with a high school buddy. We saw them in 1979 at the Aragon Brawl Room. Sadly all we can remember are the bathrooms being full and people pissing behind a door. We started the day at our favorite Wisconsin bar (drinking age 18).

Using the pregnant mom example. In this thread if I say pregnant women should be responsible and not smoke or drink I'll be told that doesn't work. So what does work? Women being irresponsible and smoking and drinking? Even with the strictest laws imaginable against it, the problem will continue if women smoke and drink. The only way it stops is when people are responsible. We need rules in place and enforcement because obviously people don't do this on their own. But in the end it's the actions that matter.

My checklist regardless of what's happening always starts with grip, stance, and alignment. For shanks, which mercifully are rare in high school players, I look for being too close to the ball, weight on your heels at address, or feet too wide of the target. I hit on the weight thing by accident. But it's happened to a couple players. They are rocked back at address and then lean forward as they swing. My first try is "You're too good of a player to suddenly develope this. Let's go putt for a while and come back tomorrow fresh." Whatever the problem is usually just goes away if you stop trying to fix it.

Whoa I never mocked anyone for stricter public policies. Prove that. I've said any plan you want is fine but for it to be successful people have to responsibly follow that plan. Stricter is fine but it starts with people following the plan. People following policies - Good People not following policies - Bad It's a simple as that. Personal responsibility doesn't work? Then let's give personal irresponsibility a try. Since you don't agree that we need personal responsibility let's start with what irresponsible thing are you doing to help stop the spread? My point is so simple y'all are trying to make it more than it is. People have to follow the rules for rules to work. ANY RULES. Maybe this example will work. People drove drunk during prohibition. The strictest alcohol rules in the history of our country didn't stop drunk driving. All bars were closed months ago and people drove drunk. Rules are necessary, they are the cornerstone of a society. But for them to really work people have to follow them.

Someone help me understand this. Our policies are failing because people are not being responsible so we really need people to be A. Responsible B. Irresponsible I believe whatever we decide as the next phase we need A. If you believe B please explain.

Agreed. Open just grocery stores and we need people to shop responsibly. Open gas stations and we need people to shop responsibly. Tell people not to gather and we need people to be responsible and not gather. I've never said that just telling people to be responsible would work. That clearly would not work. But believing there is a plan that works if people don't follow it is pure fantasy.

I've assumed Lippert, Furrion, etc are allocating components and doubted that Jayco suddenly decided that Goodyear Endurance should go on all their units if China was still shipping tires. Am I correct?

I think y'all believe I'm saying something I'm not. I must not be clear. Whatever plan you want, actions are what makes the difference. Irresponsible people will cause a great plan to fail. We need everyone from elected officials to Joe Sixpack to be responsible. That's not a policy or plan. It's a strategy to implement whatever plan you want. I can't even comprehend that as any kind of plan and at least in my corner of the globe no entity has that as a policy. We're going to continue to have this pandemic as long as we have irresponsible people.