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Hinch wasn't someone I wanted but I agree there were others I wish they had hired. I really wouldn't have cared if they only interviewed Alomar for example. A show of bringing in candidates then hiring Tony wouldn't make me feel any better about the choice.

If we're saying was Tony better 10 or 20 years ago, sure he was. I think the point that people are trying to make is there are 40 year old folks that wouldn't be as good of a manager as Tony is at 76. Again, I'm not saying he is a good choice. But realize were discussing one of the all time great managers in his declining years not a hack like the last couple of guys in the dugout.

You don't agree we could have done better?

Really? I went back and earned a MA at 50 and felt as sharp as ever.

So is a hall of fame manager at 76 better than Renteria who will probably never manage in MLB again? Maybe and I'm leaning towards yes. The question we will never know the answer to is he better than one of the hot names or someone we hadn't thought of? Tonight I don't believe so. I think we could have done better. But his age is down the list of my concerns.

When will you decline mentally?

Tray, after I finish this rotation of the sun I'll be 60 so I appreciate your post and feelings. I think some of our posters have a pessimistic view of how they will be in a couple decades. That makes me a bit sad. It's as if they think their lives are over at 50. Lol In a less harsh light. Tony started managing 40 years ago. I believe the Sox did not and will not receive his best years. Those were after his first tour and before this latest. We will never really learn if a proven hall of fame manager on the downside of his career would have been better than a potential hall of fame manager on the upstart of a career. But isn't that part of the fun of sports? Discussing the possibilities.

I'm thinking in more general terms. Is there one best manager available and every team should hire him or is one guy perfect there and a different guy is the best for over there? Thinking in a different sport, are there Doug Collins builders and Phil Jackson finishers? And if they went with a hot name would we even really care?

I'm wondering if he doesn't interview well or just loyal to the Cleveland Baseball Team.

I agree they didn't hire the best available. If they immediately zeroed in on Bochy for example would you feel the same way about a search? But is there one best manager available and every team should be looking at that one individual or do you believe that multiple teams could each be looking at a different person and each selecting their best choice? I'm thinking more about the process than the result. I honestly wouldn't have questioned the process if it resulted in one of my top three picks.

How many managers have been employed in MLB in the years Tony managed? How many are in the hall? I'm going to hope there's some Hall of Fame managerial electrons left in the energy cell. He wasn't my top choice but I'm certainly not going to wish he fails. At several points in his career he was the best manager in baseball. Does he have two or three runs left? Let's hope so. Now if he could convince Alomar to come in as assistant manager . . .

At least we were spared the extended dog and pony show. Instead we received a hall of fame manager in minutes.

Alomar. But I'm a broken record. He's been my first choice for three openings now.

Those are great points. I'm still against the PED boys from getting in, now I'm against the guys who profited also.

Could he lower his win count? Have a WS taken away? I guess he could tarnish his reputation by stealing signs or betting on baseball. Maybe taking steroids?

Which makes me believe it's win it all now. This could mean JR opens the vault. Maybe Tony's value is getting JR to spend. Doesn't make sense to bring in Tony as part of a building plan. "Hey Jer, I'll come but you got to resign everyone and bring in a couple arms"

I'll take the under.

The last Senate race was close. The tech industry is growing fast, bringing in younger, more liberal voters. Most of Texas is rural and rural residents don't need or receive much in government services. Classic small government conservatism makes sense for them. As people start living closer together in bigger towns and cities, rules for living near people and government programs make more sense. Classic big government liberalism makes sense. Then there is a streak of take care of your own shit and stop waiting for someone to take care of you independence that seems to run through both political spectrums.

I doubt any of my top three picks would have generated over a 100 page thread.

Once again a trailblazer. That's how you get in the hall of fame.

Now oldest. Chance to be the oldest manager to win a WS

Second hall of famer to manage after being inducted as a manager. Third winningest manager of all time.

Ironically Tony was the youngest manager in baseball when he was first hired by the Sox.

Good point.

I've never been to Spain But I kinda like the music* If you aren't familiar with this song it was a hit the first time TLR managed the Sox.