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QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ May 24, 2017 -> 01:04 PM) Can't wait until NCAA start investigating Missouri You should not want this to happen, at least in regards to Tilmon. Who knows what they would find in relation to Illinois.

Well wishes out to those impacted, just terrible.

QUOTE (bmags @ May 22, 2017 -> 01:09 PM) I would see any former president up until Wilson, aside from the "back from the dead" novelty. I would not see Trump. He has no respect for the audience, and this isn't a monarchy so I just couldn't. I remember back in HS, my freshman year we had to write to a politician (of our choice) for our civics class. I wrote to President Bush, who I really didn't like at the time. I didn't get a response, which wasn't a surprise, but then my mom tells me like 3 months later that I got a photo of the president in the mail but she threw it out since she knew I wasn't a fan. I was pretty stunned and actually upset, because regardless of how I felt about the president, I thought it was really cool that I received something from the White House (though I'm sure it was an automated response thing). These days however, I'd probably shred anything I got from the WH.

QUOTE (ptatc @ May 22, 2017 -> 12:36 PM) As a school based in Catholic religion, pretty much. I agree with the not always agreeing with the stance of the school. But for someone to disagree with the stance enough to stage a protest but still not care about it enough to attend the school is just funny. Did you disagree with Illinois enough to stage an active protest? Once again, ND =/= Pence's views on gays, so saying they are the one and the same is pretty silly. The action was a result of Pence and his beliefs, and they are much more extreme than ND's position (which according to their site at least is pretty open - I don't know enough about their on-campus culture or policies to go further than that). I'm pretty sure that if ND made a PR statement saying they believe in conversion therapy then you would see a pretty big protest from current students and most likely a lot of prospective students wouldn't go there. I did not protest anything personally, I also wasn't as political/angry during those days. I was involved in a lot of social justice activities on campus, including being an intern at the University Housing department for Social Justice and Leadership.

"Why aren't people tolerant of my intolerant beliefs?" That questions always amuses me.

QUOTE (raBBit @ May 22, 2017 -> 11:58 AM) My thoughts as well. Most of those kids had their parents pay 200K to get that education. To walk out for some attention on the day of celebration is pretty petty to me. Par for the generation though. So the kids lose their rights because their parents paid for their education? If parent's don't want to support their children's ability to think, to want change, to better their world then maybe they shouldn't have paid for the education in the first place.

QUOTE (ptatc @ May 22, 2017 -> 11:44 AM) You do see the irony/contradiction here though, right? You have students who want tolerance, yet they won't listen to a person speak. Wanting tolerance does not mean they HAVE to listen to someone who is intolerant. Is ND against gays? Where did ND and Pence's views on gay rights intersect? Falling in love with a school does not mean you will always agree with their stances. I love Illinois, but I've disagreed with statements and policies in the past. That doesn't mean I wouldn't go there again, it does mean that I will try and do what I can to influence the university to make changes though.

That's awesome, I'm really hoping there is a bigger selection of electric plug-ins in 5 years or so.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ May 15, 2017 -> 09:51 AM) Blue Star Donuts in Portland was really good We went to Voodoo (a friend woke up really early and brought back a dozen for the group). They were good but nothing special (except for the Maple Bacon Bar - drooling just thinking of it). Blue Star looked good but didn't go there. If you every end up in the Alberta Arts District, this place was amazing.

QUOTE (DBAHO @ May 14, 2017 -> 11:10 AM) Does anyone have any recommendations for Portland, Seattle or Vancouver. Hitting up all 3 cities next week for a vacation.... Seattle: Bainbridge Island is a nice ferry ride and really pretty place to check out, but I would recommend planning what you want to do before going. We ended up grabbing dinner and it took forever so did that and saw a really nice park and that was it. Checkout Kerry Park for a sunset on a clear day, beautiful view. Starbucks Reserve is a little touristy but damn they make good coffee there, if you're going to do a Starbucks thing I would go there. The "first" Starbucks down by Pike Market is just busy and nothing really special. I would also check out Pike Brewing, pretty fun place. Portland: Eagle Creek Trail is gorgeous, highly recommend. Maybe research some of the other trails in that area because it is picturesque out there. Tugboat Brewing - super laid back, decent beer. We went in right at open (4pm) and played some of the board games for a few hours as we drank. Also, beer/cider was $4/each. Definitely check out Powell's bookstore/Pearl District/food trucks. It's a fun experience. Go to Tasty and Alder, a little touristy but amazing brunch. There is a Whiskey Library that looked amazing, but you have to make a reservation a day or two ahead. If that's your thing, I would recommend it. Deschutes is a must IMO, great beer and food to match. Just allow some time for a wait (I think we waited 45 minutes). You can grab a beer or there was a slightly less busy place across the street that had good drinks. Enjoy!

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ May 11, 2017 -> 10:00 AM) Hey I was on that trail last summer! We enjoyed Portland, but we loved Bend. If you're into basically any outdoor activity that doesn't involve the ocean, you can find it there. The trail was really cool, wish we had more time/were in better shape to go farther. I have a buddy who went to Bend and loved it, once I realized what that place was I really want to go out there. Hiking and craft beer, what's not to like?

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ May 11, 2017 -> 10:27 AM) Well you obviously should have reached out to a fellow Soxtalker to get the scoop on what to do and where to go. Shame on you. I was visiting a buddy from college with some other friends (one who had grown up in Seattle), so was banking on their knowledge

Went to Seattle for 2 nights and Portland for 3 nights from Thur-Tue, had a great time. Seattle was kind of meh for me, glad I saw it and had some beautiful views, but don't think I would go back. Portland on the other hand, absolutely loved that city. Both places had great food and drinks but the vibe in Portland was a lot better. Went on some hikes and had a really fun time on the Eagle Creek trail going out to Punchbowl Ridge. The sheer green/nature just a bit outside Portland was great, wish I had more time to check it out.

QUOTE (iamshack @ May 6, 2017 -> 10:44 AM) Just returned from our trip to Europe! What a fantastic time! Stayed in some amazing hotels, gorgeous views, amazing food, enjoyed a lot of different places. Learned a lot for next time as well. Glad you had a great time! And yea, international travel gets a lot easier/better when you learn what you want and how to get it better through experiences. Share some pics!

QUOTE (shipps @ Apr 27, 2017 -> 08:37 PM) You guys complain every year that they don't address the Qb position. They finally make a shrewd move to get one because if they didn't it's likely someone else was entertaining a trade with San Fran to get Trubisky, the guy Pace identifies as "the guy" and you all lose ur s*** over a couple third rounders. Shrewd???? Ships you're drunk.

Pleaseeee let this be a move to just have Cleveland trade For him. The bears didn't call Mitch so maybe this is possible.

QUOTE (Kalapse @ Apr 27, 2017 -> 07:24 PM) So, I'm confused, Pace thought San Fran would take Trubisky but if you throw picks at them they'll back off? What the f*** does that tell you? Was thinking this, just seems like we played ourselves.

Underwood just beat out UK, Duke, MSU, and more for a recruit. Huge, and gives me more confidence for the future.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Apr 26, 2017 -> 06:27 PM) Biggest bag of cash. Right? This one is admittedly different, the family has been quoted by insider reporters saying they prefaced any interest from a school saying they wouldn't allow anything dirty and would cut schools if they saw that.

QUOTE (bmags @ Apr 25, 2017 -> 07:15 AM) Not sure Mizzou should be worried about better programs, Illini fans have established he is only seeking a better offer so as long as we keep that up. Tilmon, and especially his dad, are open to the game (and yes, Illinois was playing that game hard for a long time). But if you recall from signing day, SLU opened the door with the money offers, but Kansas became the real threat once they knew there was an opening. I still think he ends up at KU or UNC or something like that.

No one really knows what Smith will do, but Piper is feeling good about it and that gives me optimism. Moore not going to Illinois is the shock of the day

Things have gotten touchy here, it's been a hot winter politically. Fresh reminder to follow board rules or you may find yourself suspended/banned. Let's all be civil.

QUOTE (Reddy @ Apr 24, 2017 -> 04:37 PM) I literally don't know what SJW's means. social justice warrior

And it is sad, I mean there's plenty of video evidence out there that is shocking, cruel, etc that should provide plenty of humanizing support for the movement. But many conservatives I talked to about this topic would get so upset about how the black community kills itself, commits crimes against themselves, etc. They wouldn't hear any arguments against the police, which to me when you watch some of those videos is asinine. And I think there is a lot of sticking your head into the sand type stuff going on, and white people are to blame for a lot of this s***. But all of that said, the movement has not made the progress it should have. And I think that's a really interesting case study right there as to why. It isn't just racism, there is definitely a % of that but it isn't wholly that.

Reddy it's similar to your conversation with the feminist board you mentioned awhile back. You were already invalidated because of who you are, even if you wanted to be an ally, or had a helpful suggestion, it didn't matter because you are a white straight male. You just did that to this board. Where does that get us? I get your point, it's valid to question why white males are "deciding" what's best for women, but that doesn't mean they can't help and they shouldn't be allies. That's my problem with SJW out there, they are so damn focused on certain issues or so pissed at white establishment that they throw out any potential contribution from whites. And then people are confused why white suburbia (just a general expression for this) doesn't understand social justice issues. We aren't going to them as allies, and maybe some don't deserve even that much, but it's off-putting to one's you could win over. The above is why I think BLM is struggling with so many people compared to the LGBTQ movement. BLM is "f*** the establishment" and LGBTQ is more "influence and change the establishment." Those are general, extremely simple views of them though.