JUGGERNAUT

I have a bag of 50 Pepsi cans for this purpose. I love Pepsi products. Even with buying them over the internet I will still bring the cans for recycling. Not all 50 but at least 1 per person. I'm assuming that's what their going to do with them. For those who are interested the UPC code is actually stamped below the freshness date. They are not working. They come back with either expired or not in the SOX database. So once again thank you for the failsafe passcode "sox". I was shocked to find out that the UD premium box seats are sold out. At least as far as ticketmaster 1/2 price Pepsi promo goes.

It works! Great!

For PEPSI night I need a valid code. The codes on my cans are all expired. Thank you for your help!

May Indiv Game Honors: PoG: MB(3), EL(2), JG(2), SS(2), FT(2), MO(1), JU(1), MOL(1), PK(1), RG(1), CL(1), MJ(1), AoG: SS(3), EL(3), MB(3), JG(3), DM(2), NC(1), ST(1), CP(1), MJ(1), BoG: FT(4), JV(3), CL(2), MO(2), PK(2), JU(1), MOL(1), SA(1), AR(1), RG(1), GoG: JU(6), PK(3), WH(2), AR(2), JC(1), CL(1), EL(1), MOL(1), JV(1) Comments: Thank you KW for locking up MB & changing his disposition to one of sweetness towards the SOX. Here's to hoping MB & the SOX have a long history together. Thank you KW for locking FT up to a reasonable contract for a few more yrs. Frank is instrumental to this team's success year after year & even at 8 MIL for 2K5 he's a goody buy. I don't see him leaving because he still has 13 MIL guaranteed after that even if the SOX buy out the remaining year. Thank you KW for retaining Valentin. I think most fans want him back. Thank you KW for securing Loaiza. At 4 MIL a yr even w his drop off he's still a bargain. Thank you KW for securing Schow. I like you believed in this guy all along. But he is still injury prone in his career so let's keep crossing our fingers. Most of all thank you for Juan Uribe. What an incredible surprise! As for Maggs, he's producing slightly better than Carlos which puts his price at 10 MIL a yr tops. He's now in his 2nd yr of decline after putting up MVP #'s in 2K2. If he thinks someone wants to pay him better than 50/5 at this juncture let him go.

Definitely Frylock. I find Shake annoying at best & a need to mentor meatwad.

The Saudi's this weak pledged to increase production by as many as 2 million barrels a day to help out the USA. This is one of the benefits of occupying Iraq no doubt. This comes a few days after the Saudi security bldg was bombed by Al-Queda. But here's the problem. Because of the shortage of refineries in America it won't be available to the national public until after the summer season. If refineries were doubled in America it would reach the public as early as late Jun. Yes the gas guzzlers of America do impact the price we pay, but this is less an impact than the refineries. The problem is that the lobbying forces make it very difficult for refineries to be built. The natural places for them are along the Gulf of Mexico betw LA & FL as well as expansion in Chicago, & the South East. The South East is where the big turmoil is. It's a question of beach front property vs oil refineries because the shorter the distance between the refinery & the tanker the lower the cost. This is not an easy answer because there isn't land readily available for such construction without hurting the pre-existing tourism in those areas. There is room to expand the refineries around the great lakes but that isn't going to lower the cost. It's only going to increase the supply in a timely manner. In the mean time things can not remain as they are because it simply isn't fair for those who only consume 50 gallons of gasoline a month to shoulder the burden of price for those who consume 100 gallons of gasoline a month. Obviously MPG comes into play. It's impossible to ration gasoline in a true sense in America. But it is possible to ration the price increase assoc with gasoline usage. All license plates in IL are assoc with VINs so I assume this is true for most states. When paying for gas either by credit or cash you would be prompted to enter your plate number. From your plate number the computer would determine the VIN of your car & retrieve the MPG rating on the car. Your MPG class would determine your price class. Ex. The going rate is about $2.20 / gal. Person A: has a car getting 35 city, 45 hwy. Person B: has a car getting 25 city, 35 hwy. Person C: has a car getting 15 city, 25 hwy. Person D: has a car getting 12 city, 20 hwy. Person D: should pay $2.70 / gal. Person C: should pay $2.40 / gal. Person B: should pay $2.00 / gal. Person D: should pay $1.70 / gal. I think that can of pricing structure would have an impact on automobile purchases of the future & slow down demand.

This one comes from 60 Minutes & I can't really blame his premise. However Rooney always likes to leave democracy out of it & well I just find that to be un-American. Being an American & upholding democracy above all else go hand in hand in my book. So here's my little addendum to Rooney's idea: The nominations to serve on this advisory board to congress should come from the nations professors. So unless you are a professor you can't nominate someone. Congress will then choose among the nominees to serve on the board for no more than 8 years. Both democracy & the highest minds in the land play significant roles in determine the board. As Rooney suggested, the board would only serve in an advisory role & there is enough prestige with the position to entice the greatest minds to serve on the board. It doesn't mean that they can't serve more than 8 years, but it means that they have to be nominated & appointed again to retain their position. Likewise, as Rooney suggested the impact this board would have on the minds of the public would greatly pressure members of Congress to do the right thing. If the majority of the advisory board is suggesting to vote one way & Congress chooses to vote the other way there will be a lot of explaining to do.

We don't live in 1776 any more where the uneducated outnumbered the educated a 1000 to 1. We live in 2004 where the educated outnumber the uneducated & that gap is widening. It's time to evolve with progress.

First of your wrong. The meaning behind democratic republic is that no 1 state can monopolize the direction of the nation. Thus we pattern a true democracy at a state level but pattern a democracy of states at the federal level. That's what's meant by a republic. That is also why there is an electoral college to elect a president. Every branch of federal government is elected except for the judicial. There's simply no reason to keep it that way in an educated nation. We don't live in a land of an uneducated majority any more. Get over your own greatness. There are more legal professionals in this country today than there are law enforcers. That's a fact. Many of you need to stop living in the past. The modern world is one where the majority is influenced by media & today there are more media sources with the internet than at any time in history. The old phobias simply are ridiculous to fear any more. Implementing this is pretty easy. There is no campaigning & there is no general election. Nominations would come solely from state bar associations. From the list of nominees the congressional bodies of each state would then vote on the nominees. The ones with highest votes would be appointed judges. This allows for both the credence of the bar associations & the democracy of the voters to weigh in on the makeup of the judicial branch. This process should be repeated every 8 years & impeachment possible for judges who abuse the power of their role. It's ridiculous in this day & age for judges to be the only body of power exempt from the power of democracy. Even in the corp world executives have to answer to a board of directors & the board has to answer to stock holders.

========================================== Sun, May 23 @ MIN W17-7:Shrek 2! PoG: Carlos Lee (6 RBI!) AoG: Jon Garland(34, settled down) BoG: Carlos Lee (147!, hm: Aaron Rowand (141) GoG: Miguel Olivo (thrown out runner, hm: Carlos Lee) Comments: Fairy-tale analogy: The SOX were a frog that attracted a Princess' kiss (3-0). But then it turned butt ugly (3-6) & the Princess fled. But then it began to shine & the Princess turned back. Then it began to transform into a handsome prince & she came running back. The End. Wolf-pack analogy: The SOX were a pack of wolves that struck blood first (3-0). But the Twinkie hunter brought out the big gun & drove them back (3-6). But that didn't stop the blood in the Twinkie from flowing & the wolf pack picked up the scent quickly. Suddenly two brave wolves tore into the arms of the Twinkie & he couldn't get off a shot. The rest of the pack smelled the blood & devoured the Twinkie. He was able to draw his blade once near the end of his death, but his death was a certainty by then. The End. CARLOS LEE was the leader of the pack today. A 6 RBI day & some fine running catches. Just like Sat. The Twinkees are at a disadvantage on the new turf. Talk about cheap! The Twinkee owner is a billionaire & yet he won't spend 100 mil on a new stadium so he's force to go the way of the Vikings. The new turf should help the Vikes considerably with injuries but for the Twinkees it slows everything down & that weakens their speed advantage on defense. ========================================== JU(89)=16+10+50+13 AR(141)=16+16+24+85 MO(104)=67+21+16 CL(147)=22+46+22+57 PK(57)=7+36+7+7 MOL(81)=65+16 FT(38)=15+2+21 JV(73)=51+22 JC(34)=7+20+7 WH=9 JG(34)=89+69+40+0+10+25+0 (It looked worse than it was!) ST=9 BK=50 ========================================== CHICAGO SOX 1ST -J Uribe singled to left. 10 -A Rowand reached on bunt single to second, J Uribe to second. 15,2 -M Ordonez tripled to deep center, J Uribe and A Rowand scored. 65,4,6 -C Lee singled to center, M Ordonez scored. 20,2 -P Konerko walked, C Lee to second. 7,2 MINNESOTA 1ST -L Ford reached on infield single to third. 10 -C Guzman reached on bunt single to pitcher, L Ford to second. 15 -J Jones grounded out to first, L Ford to third, C Guzman to second. 5 -J Morneau walked. 5 -T Hunter walked, L Ford scored, C Guzman to third, J Morneau to second. 14 -D Mientkiewicz singled to right, C Guzman and J Morneau scored, T Hunter to third. 45 CHICAGO SOX 2ND -J Uribe singled to deep right. 10 MINNESOTA 2ND -A Prieto doubled to right. 20 -L Ford grounded out to shortstop, A Prieto to third. 2 -M Cuddyer grounded into fielder's choice to third, T Hunter scored, D Mientkiewicz out at second, M Cuddyer to second on throwing error by second baseman J Uribe. 10 -A Prieto doubled to right. 20 -L Ford grounded out to shortstop, A Prieto to third. 2 -C Guzman sacrificed to pitcher, A Prieto scored.5 -J Jones reached on bunt single to third. 10 CHICAGO SOX 3RD -F Thomas reached on infield single to shortstop. 10 -P Konerko walked, F Thomas to second. 7,2 MINNESOTA 3RD -T Hunter singled to deep left. 10 -D Mientkiewicz singled to right, T Hunter to third. 20 -M Cuddyer grounded into fielder's choice to shortstop, T Hunter scored, D Mientkiewicz out at second. 5 -M Cuddyer caught stealing second, catcher to second. -H Blanco safe at second on throwing error by third baseman J Crede. 5 CHICAGO SOX 4TH -M Olivo homered to center. 50 -J Uribe homered to left. 50 -A Rowand reached on infield single to shortstop. 10 -M Ordonez singled to left, A Rowand to second. 15,2 -F Thomas walked, A Rowand to third, M Ordonez to second. 9,2,2 -C Lee singled to left, A Rowand and M Ordonez scored, F Thomas to second. 40,2,4,2 -P Konerko singled to center, F Thomas scored, C Lee to second. 30,4,2 -J Valentin doubled to right, C Lee scored, P Konerko to third. 45,4,4 -J Crede hit SF to center, P Konerko scored, J Valentin to third. 7 -M Olivo singled to center, J Valentin scored, M Olivo out stretching at second. 15,2 MINNESOTA 4TH CHICAGO SOX 5TH -A Rowand hit a ground rule double to left. 20 -F Thomas fouled out to right, A Rowand to third. 2 -C Lee singled to center, A Rowand scored. 20,2 -P Konerko walked, C Lee to second. 7,2 MINNESOTA 5TH -T Hunter singled to left. 10 CHICAGO SOX 6TH -M Olivo reached on infield single to second. 10 -J Uribe walked, M Olivo to second. 7,2 -A Rowand homered to right, M Olivo and J Uribe scored. 85,4,6 -M Ordonez reached on infield single to shortstop. 10 -F Thomas singled to left, M Ordonez to second. 15,2 -C Lee doubled to left center, M Ordonez and F Thomas scored. 55,4,6 -P Konerko walked. 5 -J Crede singled to left, C Lee to third, P Konerko to second. 20,2,2 MINNESOTA 6TH -A Prieto singled to right. 10 -C Guzman singled to right, A Prieto to second. 15 CHICAGO SOX 7TH MINNESOTA 7TH CHICAGO SOX 8TH -W Harris walked. 5 -J Valentin singled to right, W Harris to third. 20,4 -J Crede walked, J Valentin to second. 7,2 MINNESOTA 8TH -S Takatsu relieved J Garland. -M Cuddyer walked. 5 -H Blanco grounded into fielder's choice to second, M Cuddyer out at second. 2 -L Ford grounded into fielder's choice to third, H Blanco out at second. 2 CHICAGO SOX 9TH MINNESOTA 9TH -B Koch relieved S Takatsu. -C Guzman homered to right. 50

========================================== Sat, May 22 @ MIN L9-1:Cotts rots. PoG: Mark Jackson (3 scoreless ip) AoG: Mark Jackson (10) BoG: Jose Valentin (39, hm:Joe Crede (35) GoG: Juan Uribe (2 DPs, hm:Carlos Lee(3 fine running catches)) Comments: Cliff Politte does not have it. Send him down. I think Sammy & Barry do the wrong thing with back spasms. I get them occasionally to & the worst thing you can do is baby them. I'm not sure about Barry's but when Sammy's was mentioned with a sneeze that's similar to what I get. I've learned that no amount of soaking or jet spray will get rid of them quickly. The best thing to do is stretch through them. Do knee bends but do them slowly. What do you expect me to talk about in a 9-1 clubbing? Oh yeah! I thought you would find this interesting: 2004: 0-7 from 5th starters. 2003: 4-23 from 5th starters. 2002: 10-22 from 5th starters. 2001: 14-15 from 5th starters. Tots: 28-67 There's the division right there. Oddly enough 21 of the 28W came from .. (drum roll) Rocky Biddle, Sean Lowe, & Gary Glover. ========================================== MO=10+10 JV=24+15 JC=35 CL=12 FT=10 NC(84)=107+60 MJ(10)=0+30+0 JA=55 KW=25 DM=5 CP=115 ========================================== CHICAGO SOX 1ST -M Ordonez reached on infield single to shortstop. 10 MINNESOTA 1ST -L Ford singled to left. -C Guzman singled to center, L Ford to second. -L Ford to third, C Guzman to second on wild pitch by N Cotts. -J Jones grounded out to shortstop, L Ford scored, C Guzman to third. -M LeCroy homered to left, C Guzman scored. -D Mientkiewicz walked. CHICAGO SOX 2ND -J Valentin reached on infield single to third. 10 -J Valentin stole second. 10 -J Crede hit a ground rule double to deep left, J Valentin scored. 35,4 MINNESOTA 2ND -J Morneau homered to right center. -A Prieto singled to right. CHICAGO SOX 3RD MINNESOTA 3RD -M Jackson relieved N Cotts. CHICAGO SOX 4TH -C Lee singled to right. 10 -J Valentin singled to right center, C Lee to second. 15,2 MINNESOTA 4TH -M Cuddyer singled to right. -J Morneau singled to center, M Cuddyer to third. -A Prieto grounded into double play, third to second to first, J Morneau out at second. CHICAGO SOX 5TH MINNESOTA 5TH CHICAGO SOX 6TH -F Thomas singled to center. 10 MINNESOTA 6TH -J Adkins relieved M Jackson. -T Hunter doubled to deep right center. -M Cuddyer doubled to deep right center, T Hunter scored. -K Wunsch relieved J Adkins. -J Morneau singled to right, M Cuddyer scored. CHICAGO SOX 7TH MINNESOTA 7TH -D Marte relieved K Wunsch. -L Ford walked. CHICAGO SOX 8TH -M Ordonez singled to left. 10 MINNESOTA 8TH -C Politte relieved D Marte. -D Mientkiewicz singled to right. -M Cuddyer doubled to deep right, D Mientkiewicz to third. -J Morneau intentionally walked. -A Prieto grounded into fielder's choice to shortstop, D Mientkiewicz scored, J Morneau out at second, M Cuddyer to third. -L Ford singled to right, M Cuddyer scored, A Prieto to second. -C Guzman doubled to right, A Prieto scored, L Ford to third. CHICAGO SOX 9TH

I disagree with that. The federal & state judges would be elected by citizens of the state & not the neighborhood. With respect to a neighborhood the Federal constitution doesn't apply as much as the state constitution. It's highly unlikely that in this day & age a single neighborhood or even a few neighborhoods could influence greatly the election of a state judge.

========================================== Fri, May 21 @ MIN w8-2: Buehrle dominated a weak Twins lineup. Stewart is now on the DL. Pummel dem Twinkies! PoG: Mark Buehrle (7ip, 2er) AoG: Mark Buehrle (24) BoG: Jose Valentin (95, hm: TP 90) GoG: Juan Uribe (0 er, a DP) Comments: If a starter pitches 7ip, 2er & scores below 30 it's awfully hard not to give him PoG & AoG honors. If it's a close game AoG can still go to a reliever but he'd have to score a 0. Uribe had about 7 POs & was instrumental if a DP, but JC & MB also had some nice plays. I gave it to Uribe by default despite an infield hit to SS. ========================================== MB(24)=5+5+45+57+0+0+60 ST(8)=10+5 JU(63)=14+21+16+5 MO(48)=20+12+16 PK(18)=16+2 JC=34 SA(18)=16+2 TP(90)=20+70 RG=2 CL=10 JV(95)=25+70 ========================================== CHICAGO SOX 1ST -J Uribe singled to right. 10 -M Ordonez singled to right, J Uribe to third. 20,4 MINNESOTA 1ST -J Jones singled to center. 10 -J Jones caught stealing second, pitcher to first to shortstop. -5 CHICAGO SOX 2ND -P Konerko singled to center. 10 -J Crede doubled to deep left, P Konerko to third. 30,4 -S Alomar Jr at first on error by 1B, P Konerko, JC scored. 10,2,4 -J Uribe singled to left, S Alomar Jr to second. 15,2 -T Perez singled to right, S Alomar Jr to third, J Uribe to 2B. 20,2,2 -M Ordonez go into FC to ss, to 2B on err, SA, JU scored on err, 12,2,4 MINNESOTA 2ND -J Offerman walked. 5 CHICAGO SOX 3RD -C Lee singled to left. 10 -PK GO FC SS, C Lee out at second. 2 -RG GO FC P, P Konerko out at second. 2 MINNESOTA 3RD -H Blanco walked. 5 -L Ford singled to center, H Blanco to second. 20 -C Guzman reached on infield single to shortstop, H Blanco to third, L Ford to second. 20 CHICAGO SOX 4TH -J Uribe singled to left. 10 -T Perez homered to right, J Uribe scored. 70,6 -J Valentin doubled to deep right center. 20 -J Valentin to third on wild pitch by C Silva. 5 MINNESOTA 4TH -T Hunter singled to left. 10 -J Morneau hit by pitch, T Hunter to second. 7 -M Cuddyer doubled to deep CFr, TH scored, J Morneau to third. 40 CHICAGO SOX 5TH MINNESOTA 5TH CHICAGO SOX 6TH -J Uribe walked. 5 MINNESOTA 6TH CHICAGO SOX 7TH -M Ordonez singled to left. 10 -J Valentin homered to right, M Ordonez scored. 70,6 MINNESOTA 7TH -M Cuddyer homered to left. 50 -C Guzman singled to left. 10 CHICAGO SOX 8TH -S Alomar Jr safe at first on throwing error by second baseman J Offerman. 2 MINNESOTA 8TH -S Takatsu relieved M Buehrle. -M LeCroy singled to center. 10 CHICAGO SOX 9TH MINNESOTA 9TH -M Cuddyer walked. 5

========================================== Thu, May 20 @ MIN w10-3: The Big Hurt POG: Frank Thomas (big 3 run HR) AOG: Estaban Loaiza (7ip, 3er) BOG: Frank Thomas (139, hon men:PK (131)) GoG: Jose valentin (0 errors, 2 DPs) Comments: Koney heated up near the end with 2 solo shots. The difference between EL (2K4) & EL (2K3): big innings. ========================================== EL(35)=95+5+17+25+50+0+16 CP=10 MJ=0 JU(41)=5+26+5+5 TP(47)=4+31+12 FT(139)=15+85+24+15 CL=35 JV=11 PK(131)=21+10+50+50 RG=35 JC(21)=5+16 MOL(33)=11+22 ========================================== CHICAGO SOX 1ST -J Uribe singled to center. 10 -J Uribe picked off first. -5 -T Perez safe at first on error by first baseman J Offerman. 2 -F Thomas singled to left, T Perez to second. 15,2 MINNESOTA 1ST -L Ford singled to center. 10 -J Jones reached on infield single to third. 10 -M LeCroy singled to center, J Jones to second. 15 -T Hunter doubled to right, J Jones and M LeCroy scored. 55 -J Offerman walked. 5 CHICAGO SOX 2ND -J Valentin walked.5 -P Konerko infield single to shortstop, J Valentin to second. 15,2 -R Gload singled to CF, J Valentin scored, P Konerko to third. 35,4,4 -J Crede GO double play, P Konerko scored, R Gload out at second. 5,2 -M Olivo safe at first on error by third baseman M Cuddyer. 5 -J Uribe singled to right, M Olivo to third. 20,4 -T Perez singled to center, M Olivo scored, J Uribe to second. 25,2,2 -F Thomas homered to left, J Uribe and T Perez scored. 85,4,6 MINNESOTA 2ND -M Ryan walked. 5 CHICAGO SOX 3RD -P Konerko reached on infield single to shortstop. 10 MINNESOTA 3RD -J Jones singled to right. 10 -M LeCroy walked, J Jones to second. 7 CHICAGO SOX 4TH -J Uribe walked. 5 MINNESOTA 4TH -A Prieto singled to center. 10 -L Ford reached on infield single to third, A Prieto to second. 15 CHICAGO SOX 5TH -F Thomas doubled to deep right. 20 -C Lee doubled to deep center, F Thomas scored. 35,4 MINNESOTA 5TH -J Jones homered to right. 50 CHICAGO SOX 6TH -J Crede singled to left center. 10 -M Olivo bunt single to P, J Crede 3B, scored on err, MO out at 2B.22,6 -T Perez singled to center. 10 -F Thomas singled to left, T Perez to second 15,2 MINNESOTA 6TH CHICAGO SOX 7TH -P Konerko homered to left center. 50 MINNESOTA 7TH -L Ford singled to center. 10 -3 times grounded into fielder's choice to shortstop 6 CHICAGO SOX 8TH -J Uribe walked. 5 MINNESOTA 8TH -C Politte relieved E Loaiza. -J Offerman singled to center. 10 CHICAGO SOX 9TH -P Konerko homered to left. 50 MINNESOTA 9TH -M Jackson relieved C Politte.

========================================== Wed, May 19 @ CLE w15-3: Bats explode! POG: Frank Thomas AOG: Scott Schoenweis (28) BOG: Frank Thomas (127) GoG: Paul Konerko (big 3-6 DP ended a CLE threat) Comments: Best BAT night of the the early season! Kelly Wunsch arrives .. scoreless 9th. ========================================== WH(19)=14+5 FT(127)=5+59+50+13 MO(31)=2+21+8 JU(12)=2+10 SA(40)=16+11+15 CL(78)=42+36 JV(49)=34+15 PK(97)=27+69 RG(96)=15+16+65 JC=8 AR=10 SS(28)=35+33+47+0+55+5 ST=10 JA=10 KW=0 ========================================== CHICAGO SOX 1ST -W Harris singled to center. 10 -J Uribe sacrificed to pitcher, W Harris to second. 2,2 -M Ordonez grounded out to pitcher, W Harris to third. 2,2 -F Thomas walked. 5 WH=14 FT=5 MO=2 JU=2 CLEVELAND 1ST -R Belliard walked. 5 -O Vizquel singled to right, R Belliard to third. 15 -J Gerut grounded out to first, R Belliard scored, O Vizquel to second. 10 -A Escobar walked. 5 -L Merloni struck out looking. SS=35 CHICAGO SOX 2ND CLEVELAND 2ND -T Laker singled to right. 10 -R Belliard singled to left, T Laker to second. 15 -O Vizquel safe at first on error by third baseman J Uribe, T Laker advanced to third on play, 8 Belliard to second, T Laker tagged out at home attempting to advance on play. SS=33 CHICAGO SOX 3RD -S Alomar Jr singled to right center. 10 -M Ordonez singled to right center, S Alomar Jr to second. 15,2 -F Thomas doubled to left, S Alomar Jr and M Ordonez scored. 55,4,6 -C Lee doubled to left, F Thomas scored. 35 -C Lee to third on passed ball by T Laker. 5 -J Valentin doubled to deep center, C Lee scored. 30,2 -P Konerko singled to center, J Valentin scored. 25,4 -R Gload singled to left center, P Konerko to second.15,2 SA=16 MO=21 FT=59 CL=42 JV=34 PK=27 RG=15 CLEVELAND 3RD -V Martinez walked. 5 -L Merloni doubled to left, V Martinez to third. 30 -V Martinez scored, L Merloni to third on wild pitch by S Schoeneweis. 12 SS=47 CHICAGO SOX 4TH -W Harris singled to right. 10 -J Uribe grounded into fielder's choice to first, W Harris out at second. 2 -J Uribe stole second. 10 -F Thomas singled to right, J Uribe scored. 25,4 WH=10 JU=16 FT=25 CLEVELAND 4TH SS=0 CHICAGO SOX 5TH CLEVELAND 5TH -Bottom of the 5th inning -O Vizquel walked. 5 -V Martinez homered to left. 50 SS=55 CHICAGO SOX 6TH -S Alomar Jr walked. 5 -W Harris sacrificed to catcher, S Alomar Jr to second, W Harris safe at first on error by catcher T Laker. 5,2 -M Ordonez GO into FC to shortstop, W Harris out at second, S Alomar Jr to third. 2,2 -F Thomas doubled to deep left, S Alomar Jr and M Ordonez scored. 50,2,6 SA=11 WH=5 MO=8 FT=50 CLEVELAND 6TH -L Merloni walked. 5 SS=5 CHICAGO SOX 7TH -R Gload singled to center. 10 -S Alomar Jr singled to right, R Gload to second, R Gload scored on error by RF J Gerut. 15,6 RG=16 SA=15 CLEVELAND 7TH -S Takatsu relieved S Schoeneweis. -R Belliard walked. 5 -V Martinez hit by pitch, R Belliard to second. 5 ST=10 CHICAGO SOX 8TH -J Uribe singled to center. 10 -J Crede fielder's choice to pitcher, J Uribe out at second. 2 -F Thomas walked, J Crede to second. 7,2 -C Lee 1B to center, J Crede scored, F Thomas to second. 30,4,2 -J Valentin walked, F Thomas to third, C Lee to second. 9,2,2 -P Konerko doubled to deep CF, FT, CL, JV scored. 65,2,4,6 -R Gload homered to right, P Konerko scored. 65,4 -A Rowand singled to left. 10 CLEVELAND 8TH -J Adkins relieved S Takatsu. -L Merloni singled to center. 10 CHICAGO SOX 9TH CLEVELAND 9TH -K Wunsch relieved J Adkins.

I second that. I believe SOXTALK favors democracy & free speech more so than any other sports board. Whether they lurk or register they still provide hits to the site. Who knows maybe they're lurking because of the polls They simply can't keep themselves away

Metal & Classic Rock rule the rest. When you consider the history of both there is so much overlap that I consider a vote for either a vote for the other.

Democracy First, republic second: http://www.soxtalk.com/index.php?act=ST&f=1&t=19271 Professor advisory board to Congress: http://www.soxtalk.com/index.php?showtopic=19374 Rationing gas prices: http://www.soxtalk.com/index.php?showtopic=19380 Cub culture: http://www.soxtalk.com/index.php?showtopic...=0entry354145

This is the central argument above all others. Democracy is by definition a government in which the majority of citizens of a nation hold the power. The USA of America was founded on a strong belief in democracy first & the need to be a republic second. The need to be a republic had to do mostly with the fact that the majority of citizens were uneducated. Thus certain inalienable rights had to be established to prevent these uneducated mobs from enforcing mob rules. This was also the basis for the judicial branch. Today America is by & large an educated majority where there are many more persons qualified to serve in the judicial branch. If you believe in democracy first then you should support the notion that members of the judicial branch should no longer serve life terms & should be elected like other politicians. What those terms should be should be defined by the social science of law & not someone's personal agenda. The biggest hinderance on American democracy today is a judicial branch which is largely appointed by elected officials to serve life terms long after those officials have been voted out of office. Where is the logic in such a policy in a nation with an educated majority?

Linked threads: http://www.soxtalk.com/index.php?showtopic=19112 Beltran to SOX http://www.soxtalk.com/index.php?showtopic=19096 Sele to SOX

Let's give it to Koney then. Lee & Rowand are simply not deserving of even a default GoG in this game. They did not make a play on a ball until the 5th inning & we're both replaced in the 8th. They both made 2 & only 2 POs. Koney may have been pulled off the bag but there's no question he was on the receiving end of more outs than any other player. I saw some of the highlights & I can't stand it when balls bounce right in front of OFers. That pisses me off to no end because that means just a few steps quicker reaction time & that's an out. Now either they are too slow to react or they were too slow to react at that time. That's what separates the gold gloves from the average players.

I think it makes more sense to link all the rumor threads into one thread. I'll try to provide links to the other threads in this one. Feel free to do the same here. The latest: Beltran to the Sox: http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/col_rozn...?intid=38126219 The White Sox haven't had a center fielder since before the turn of the century and they have the young and cheap arms necessary to make this deal happen. The Sox also can let the Royals choose from outfielders Joe Borchard, Aaron Rowand, Brian Anderson and Ryan Sweeney, and they can afford the $3 million it'll cost to pay Beltran the final two months of the season. The Padres, however, pose the greatest threat. They need Beltran. They have the position players to get a deal done. They have money to spend, even the $120 million it'll take to sign Beltran after the season. But the Cubs' package, which would have to include Corey Patterson and probably Kyle Farnsworth - among others - doesn't offer the inexpensive players on the verge of cracking a big-league lineup. Williams has the better shot, so he must ask himself, is there any chance of signing him and is Beltran worth the price you'd pay to make a run this year? Maybe and yes. "But if Philly accepted an average second baseman under contract (arbitration), a young starter with a mid-ceiling and a decent relief pitcher who wore out his welcome for Scott Rolen, do you think Kansas City would accept Mark Grudzielanek (team option for 2005), Sergio Mitre and Kyle Farnsworth for Carlos Beltran?'' ================================ This is a great opportunity for the WHITE SOX to hit the daily-double for the franchise . Beltran has now reached a Griffey like presence in MLB. So to say that he would not be a draw on the SOX is nuts. Better yet the SOX are the best hispanic team in the majors & this move would accentuate that. Consider the growth of the hispanic community in Chicago this would be a windfall. Both in the short-term & long-term the move makes sense & if it takes 120 MIL do it. The kid is 27 yrs old & good accomplish more in his career than ShamME Sosa. Kansas City needs young arms more than anything else. The SOX have more young arms with ML experience than any one else. It seems like a perfect fit. Who else can offer a Wright or Rauch type player to KC? Both of these guys have ML experience, some ML success & will certainly improve KC.

I have only one: Why is it so hard for the SOX to find a good 5th starter. No one spectacular just someone who can pitch 6 in & give up 4 runs or less.

May 18, 2004: Randy Johson throws a 2-0 victory perfect game. One of 17 players all time to do so. One of only 4 players to throw a no-hitter in both leagues. http://www.soxtalk.com/index.php?showtopic=19111&hl= May 17th GOG challenge: Lee & Rowand had no more than 2 outs each in the game. None of their plays were noteworthy. If not Uribe, then it's between Crede & Koney. Crede had more POs but Koney was involved in a DP.

========================================== Tue, May 18 @ CLE w4-2: Jon Garland! POG: Jon Garland (7ip, 1r) AOG: Jon Garland (13) BOG: Paul Konerko (46, 2rbi) GoG: Juan Uribe Comments: Pitching-wise the SOX are beginning to rival the cub. Schow, Buerhle, & Garland have been as good or better than Wood, Clement, & Maddux. Billy Koch(0) - no hit 9th. ========================================== MO=5 PK=10 FT=24 CL(16)=11+5 JV=26 PK=46 MOL=34 WH=45 JG(94/7=13)=10+44+0+0+0+30+10 DM=45 BK=0 ========================================== CHICAGO SOX 1ST -M Ordonez walked. 5 CLEVELAND 1ST -J Gerut singled to left. 10 CHICAGO SOX 2ND -P Konerko singled to left. 10 CLEVELAND 2ND -T Hafner doubled to deep center. 20 -CB safe at first on err by ss J Valentin, T Hafner to third. 9 -BB go into double play, shortstop to first, T Hafner scored, C Blake out at second. 5 -L Merloni singled to left. 10 CHICAGO SOX 3RD CLEVELAND 3RD CHICAGO SOX 4TH -M Ordonez walked. 5 -M Ordonez caught stealing second, catcher to second. -5 -F Thomas doubled to left. 20 -C Lee walked. 5 -JV singled to center, F Thomas to third, C Lee to second. 20,2,2 -PK singled to left, F Thomas and C Lee scored, JV to second. 40,2,4,2 -MOL infield single to second, J Valentin scored, P Konerko to second. 30,4,2 -WH singled to right center, PK scored, MOL to third, WH to second. 45,4,4 CLEVELAND 4TH CHICAGO SOX 5TH CLEVELAND 5TH CHICAGO SOX 6TH CLEVELAND 6TH -M Lawton walked. 5 -J Gerut singled to center, M Lawton to second. 15 -V Martinez struck out swinging, M Lawton stole third, J Gerut stole second. 10 CHICAGO SOX 7TH CLEVELAND 7TH -L Merloni singled to right center. 10 CHICAGO SOX 8TH -C Lee singled to center. 10 -C Lee picked off first.-5 CLEVELAND 8TH -D Marte relieved J Garland. -O Vizquel singled to left. 10 -J Gerut doubled to deep right, O Vizquel to third. 30 -VM hit sacrifice fly to right, OV scored, JG to third. 5,2,2 CHICAGO SOX 9TH CLEVELAND 9TH -B Koch relieved D Marte.