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Another thread morphing into something it was never intended to be :rolly There are technical guitarists that are masters with few equals & then there are "soulfull" guitarists. I think the top 3 soulfull guitarists would be Hendrix, Page, & Clapton. Now maybe it's not just the music they generated alone that explains this. Maybe it's the man & the music. If you just listen to their music having never seen them life you've been cheated. When you see them live it's an experience you will never forget. I was too young to ever see Page live in his hey day with Zeppelin. But I did get to see him live with the Firm. Those concerts featued the best of the Zeppelin songs & the hits they generated & I was in awe in front of Jimmy. I can only imagine what he was like live with Zeppelin in the 70's. I do have all the video's of some of those concerts but it's not the same thing. I don't think there was ever a better image of a man & guitar than Jmmy Page.

The punch line is that the Cub fan is a bigger slob than the hog I agree it needs some work

Three guys (Cards fan, Dodgers fan, Cub fan) are stranded way out in the middle of nowhere. After walking all day they look for a place to spend the night & come upon an old farmhouse. A farmer answers & they ask for a place to stay. The farmer says he only has two spare beds so one of them will have to sleep with the old hog in the sty. The Dodgers fan says I can take anything for one night and heads out to the sty, the other two climb in there beds and everybody goes to sleep. A short time later he comes back & says "I can't take it." So the Cardinals fan says "Big baby. I'll show you real guts." & heads out to the sty. A short time later he comes back & says "I can't stand it." So the Cub fan is next to go to the sty. A short time later there is a loud knock on the door they open it up and there is the hog saying "why have you done this to me?"

Classic post-MJ Chicago joke: (sure most of you have heard it) Five of the most loyal Chicago sports fans (Bulls, Hawks, Bears, Cub, Sox) were climbing a mountain one day. As they climbed higher, they argued as to which one of them was the most loyal of all. They continued fighting until they reached the top. The Hawks fan hurled himself off the mountain, shouting, "this is for the Hawks" as he fell to his doom. Not wanting to be outdone the Bulls fan threw himself off the edge shouting "this is for MJ's dynasty" then the Bears fan jumped and said " this is for DA COACH". The two remaining fans looked at each other in stunned silence. After a minute the Sox fan bellowed... "THIS IS FOR THE SOUTH SIDE!" and then he pushed the Cub fan off the mountain!!!!!

Drown Wrigley! Drown the Cub!

http://www.ahajokes.com/chicago_jokes.html Classic Cub quotes: "It's hard to put your finger on it. You have to have a dullness of mind and spirit to play here. I went through pyschoanalysis and that helped me deal with my Cubness."--Jim Brosnan, former Cubs pitcher "Noise pollution can't be that much of a problem. There's nothing to cheer about."--State rep. John F. Dunn, arguing for the installation of lights at Wrigley Field "If I managed the Cubs, I'd be an alcoholic."--Whitey Herzog "There's nothing wrong with this team that more pitching, more fielding and more hitting couldn't help."--Bill Buckner "You get tired of looking at garbage in your own backyard."--Cubs manager Lee Elia in 1983 "The Cubs were taking batting practice, and the pitching machine threw a no-hitter."--Radio deejay "The only bad thing about being released by the Cubs is that they made me keep my season tickets."--Ken Rietz, ex-Cub third baseman "One thing you learn as a Cubs fan: When you bought your ticket, you could bank on seeing the bottom of the ninth."--Joe Garagiola "The Chicago Cubs are like Rush Street--a lot of singles, but no action."--Garagiola again Did you hear about the new Cubs soup? Two sips and then you choke. "The latest diet is better than the Pritikin Diet. You eat only when the Cubs win."--pianist George Shearing "Would the lady who left her nine kids at Wrigley Field please pick them up immediately? They are beating the Cubs 4-1 in the 7th inning."--Radio deejay

Whats the difference between Wrigley Field and a cactus? With a cactus all the pricks are on the outside. What's the difference between Pizza Hut and the Cubs bullpen? Nobody's scared to call for a pizza. How do you tell the difference between a naked Cubs fan and a naked Cards fan? The Cubs fan is the one giggling. Mid-afternoon on a Wednesday, what do Sox fans and the vendors at Wrigley have in common? Jobs.

http://www.angelfire.com/il2/cubssuck/feedback.htm And no, you guys are not "bad ass." You give away barbie dolls at your park.

http://www.angelfire.com/il2/cubssuck/wrigley.htm You have to pee in a trough at Wrigley. Outdated plumbing and sewerage systems along with drunk Cubs fans who can't aim into the trough have caused 90 years of urine to soak into Wrigley, giving it that lovely smell which earns Wrigley the nickname, "the urinal" Priceless

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http://www.chicago-cubs-baseball.com/chicagojokes.php On a recent tour of the United States, the Pope took a couple of days off his itinerary to visit the Florida coastline on an impromptu sightseeing trip. His 4x4 Pope-mobile was driving along the beautiful shoreline when there was an enormous commotion heard just off the headland. They rushed to see what it was and upon approaching the scene, the Pope noticed in the water a hapless man wearing a Chicago Cubs baseball jersey, struggling frantically to free himself from the jaws of a huge shark. At that moment a speedboat containing three men wearing White Sox jerseys roared into view from around the point. Immediately, one of the men took aim and fired a harpoon into the shark's ribs, immobilizing it instantly. The other two reached out and pulled the Cubs fan from the water and then, using long clubs, beat the shark to death. They bundled the bleeding, semiconscious man into the boat along with the dead shark and then prepared for a hasty retreat when they heard frantic shouting from the shore. It was the Pope summoning them to the beach. After they reached the shore, the Pope praised them for the rescue and said, "I give you my blessing for your brave actions. I had heard that there was bitter hatred between the people of south and north sides of Chicago, but now I have seen with my own eyes this is not true. I can see that your society is a truly enlightened example of true harmony and could serve as a model on which others could follow." He blessed them all and drove off in a cloud of dust. As he departed, the harpooner asked the others, "Who was that?" "That," one answered, "that was the Holy Father, His Holiness the Pope, the head of the Roman Catholic Church and the spiritual leader of millions of faithful Christians around the world." "Well," the harpooner replied, "He doesn't seem to know diddley about shark fishing. Is the bait holding up okay or do we need to get another one?"

A Red Sox fan, A Cub fan and a Yankees fan are walking to a game together. Before approaching the field the 3 of them come across a dead naked female body. The Red Sox fan puts his hat over her left boob, the Yankees fan puts his hat over her right boob and the Cub fan puts his hat over her "downtown" area. When the cop arrives on the scene as he removes each hat he write's down an observation. As he removes the Cub hat he begins to LOL. The 3 fans say what's so funny? He responds you just don't know many times I've found a pussy under one of these hats

I had heard the map one before but not the other 3. Great stuff We need more! This is a great thread. Let's fill it up! http://www.soxtalk.com/forums/index.php?sh...view=getnewpost

These rumors come out of BOS that CLE is going to become a seller & offer Wickman & Howry. That makes no sense! They are just 2.5 gb Minny in the WC race & playing as good as Minny right now. Minny is clearly a buyer so how does CLE justify selling to their fans? The most likely contenders in the AL turning sellers are TEX & BAL. DET is playing better ball than both of them so I don't see them selling. In the NL the most likely contenders to turn sellers are WAS & PHI. MIL is playing better than both of them so I don't see them selling. Wagner is easily the most coveted talent of the 4 teams so all eyes are on PHI. Of course the bottom 6 are charging insane prices trying to create an expensive trade market. That's having a dominoe effect on the 4 above. You have to believe that price is going to drop quickly as the clock continues to click towards the clearance hour.

This thread digressed from trade talk to how great Barry is As long as he can play in the field the Giants will NEVER trade Barry. He is their meal-ticket. They'll never give that up until they absolutely have to. http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/standings I disagree with your assessment of the Giants. NO ONE is playing good ball in that division right now. Being 7.5 gb when the leader is 2-8 in their last 10 doesn't seem like a big deal. You just need to start winning games. The same can be said of all the teams in the NLE. In the AL only TAM, KCR, & SEA are out of contention. In the NL only PIT, CIN, & COL are out of contention. Only 6 teams are sellers right now & the price they've set is insane. We can expect the price to come down as the deadline looms. But it would be foolish to think the contenders will suddenly become sellers.

I can see their side of it though. Dunn-Lee-Ramirez makes for a pretty formidable middle of the lineup. But I could never see Cincy trading him to the Cub.

Yes. But considering he said the Phils were done in June he's never hinted at not accepting a trade.

Some numbers to look at when considering trades: CWS Apr 05 .255/.691 vs Opponents .229/.652 CWS May 05 .254/.754 vs Opponents .252/.717 CWS Jun 05 .271/.781 vs Opponents .241/.687 CWS Jul 05 .270/.758 vs Opponents .276/.782 The numbers don't support what you're saying. Yes we struggled offensively in April & May. You can see that in terms of the BA & OPS above. But look at Jun & Jul. The team is hitting now. The pitching has gone seriously cold in July. Both the bullpen & starters have struggled but some of the starter's woes are inflated by the relief guys not holding down the fort when the starter leaves. We need help in the bullpen much more than another bat in the lineup.

Irishmen are proud of their heritage!

I take it you don't like the home brew they sell at Berghoff's now a days?

Some numbers to look at when considering trades: CWS Apr 05 .255/.691 vs Opponents .229/.652 CWS May 05 .254/.754 vs Opponents .252/.717 CWS Jun 05 .271/.781 vs Opponents .241/.687 CWS Jul 05 .270/.758 vs Opponents .276/.782 The hitting has really picked up, but the pitching has gone south. June HOT-RP: Politte, Cotts, S. Takatsu June HOT-SP: Buehrle, Garcia, Garland, June COLD-RP: Vizc, Marte, Hermy, Walker June COLD-SP: Contra, El Duque, BMac Record: 18-7. L's by SP 4 Jul HOT-RP: Vizc, Jul HOT-SP: Garland, Jul COLD-RP: Politte, Cotts, S. Takatsu Vizc, Marte, Hermy, Walker Jul COLD-SP: Buehrle, Garcia, Garland, Contra, El Duque, BMac Record: 12-10. L's by SP 8 I have greater faith in the starters to pick it up than I do the pen. The highest trade priority must be the bullpen.

To the author of this thread, Have you bothered to watch any games when Frank has gotten on base? What part of OBVIOUS pain & discomfort did you not understand? :rolly

Dear Oz, Since you have declared the #2 spot in the lineup this year as the "move 'em over" spot comon sense would say re-vamp the lineup? Pods-Uribe-Iguchi-Konerko-Dye-Rowand-Everett-AJ-Crede You're a big fan & father figure to Uribe so I'm sure he'll get it done for you.

Duh! Christians don't believe in the use of mind-altering substances. Now Heathens are another story entirely.

I agree wholeheartedly.