witesoxfan

No it's not. 3B is completely different from SS, 2B, and 1B while CF is not nearly as different from LF and RF. The only argument you can make is that you give 2 GG's to any type of middle infielder...SS and 2B are the most similar positions on the field other then the OF.

Not sure how much of a cancer he really is. He was one of the main reasons Anaheim won 92 games. I've said all along that I think Jose would be an excellent addition, regardless of what we do with Carlos. I think Jose could be a 35-40 homer guy here with a .950-1.000 OPS.

^yeah that^ I don't want him to be, and he should be a second ballot hall of famer(because really he boosted his stats in an amazing stretch of 4 or 5 years where he just went homer/OPS crazy and hit everything and anything, and then the Cubs got good and he went down the drain)...but he'll be a 1st ballot hall of famer, because of what he did for baseball. Unless they find his syringe

So, let's hypothetically make the move. We trade Rowand for Zito. Who plays CF? And, for that matter, who plays RF?

Where's the love for Miguel Tejada? Best range factor in the AL(5.000), 3rd best zone rating(.868, behind Valentin, .878, and Crosby, .870), and he turned the most DPs(118) Who cares that he had the 3rd most errors in the league and that he had only the 9th best fielding percentage in the league...you have to look past those. That's terrible. Shame on those who vote for these things. FYI...Derek Jeter had a range factor of 4.460, good for 8th in the AL, a zone rating of .847, good for 6th in the league, turned 96 DPs, 5th best in the AL(PLEASE CONSIDER....Angel Berroa had the 6th most DPs turned, 94, in 21 FEWER games)had 13 errors and had the 4th best fielding percentage of .981. Surely, not a bad year defensively...but he did not have a gold glove year defensively either. Once again, that's terrible. Shame on those who vote for these things.

Not sure it will. They are actually showing signs of life. I think with a consistent running game, they are a .500 team, or maybe even a little better. That being said, it still will be a top 15 pick, and possibly even a top 10 pick.

We would have to be overwhelmed in a deal to trade Rowand.

That is the key. Given the choice, I trade PK in a f***ing heartbeat over Lee. Konerko has peaked...I'm quite sure of that. Lee has not...Lee's numbers continue to improve and his defense continues to get better. Lee > Konerko...simple as that. People need to realize that that is the exact same thing other teams are looking at and realize too.

I like that idea. Damn I wish I could have seen those two play up the middle. All I know is that that was the finest 2B-SS combo in White Sox history. That would be a pleasure to see.

While you and I are on the same page in this idea. you could also use the reasoning that the ball plays a lot quicker on turf then it does grass, therefore some balls that are just out of Cabrera's reach in Montreal are playable for Valentin because Valentin plays on grass and not turf. I still stand by my statement that Valentin is the better defender then Cabrera, and that is saying something considering how many people (wrongly) accuse Jose Valentin of being a poor fielder.

So there is a qwertyworld! I see how it is. Sneaky bastard

I will respectfully disagree. The worst 3 are Miami, San Francisco, and Chicago(probably in that order). The Dolphins have no passing game, no running game, and due to those, the receivers are putting up poor numbers(even though Chambers and Booker are both pretty solid receivers). The OLine is one of the worst in the NFL, and due to the offense being so poor, the defense is being way overworked and that will eventually wear down(or Jason Taylor will get about a million sacks, whichever comes first). San Francisco's defense is pretty bad, but there is an offense there, while Chicago has just been ravaged by injuries(before everyone in Chicago got hurt, they had a chance at being a .500 team). I'm not sure Buffalo fits into that group. The Bills have hung around with every team they've played so far, and either just got outplayed, shot themselves in the foot and lost the game more then the other team won the game, or they got unlucky. They were seconds away from beating Jacksonville to open the year, needed 1 yard at the goal line to beat Oakland, needed to stop the Jets on a 2 minute drill to beat them...they do those things(given, it's not easy...you have to get a little lucky), and they are 5-2 right now and sitting pretty in second place in the AFC East. That entire thing is very unlikely, and they are instead sitting ugly at 2-5 wondering why the hell they didn't trade their 3rd round pick to Houston for Drew Henson so they could actually have next year's 1st rounder to use on an OLine man. Oh well, so goes life.

Because Arizona may have no need for Konerko, and the prospects we acquired for Konerko would be apart of the package for RJ.

The odds we win the series with a rotation of RJ-Garcia-Buehrle-Contreras-who knows are way better then us winning the series with Garcia-Buehrle-Perez/whoever-Contreras-Garland. And it is possible to have a competitive team with RJ on the team. It's not as hard as you think either.

I'm not sure Arizona will do that. From what I remember/hear, they want more established players then they do prospects, since they got burned in not doing that last year with Schilling.

October was a snorefest. :sleep I think we need a huge quote thread for November.

I didn't see anyone hit on the topic, so I will There are a reasons the package would start with Lee and Garland and not Konerko and Garland... First of all, Arizona really has no need for a 1Bman. All signs indicate that there is a very good chance that Richie Sexson will resign with the DBacks, and there would be no room for Konerko on the team. Secondly, and probably more importantly...if you had to rebuild a team and that meant to trade potentially the most dominant pitcher of the past decade or so, would you want to build your team around Paul Konerko, a player with less talent and is not as good all around, or Carlos Lee, a player who has all kinds of talent and is still getting better? I would take Lee, but maybe that's just me. If Konerko is in the deal, that means two things are probably true... Richie Sexson is no longer a DBack, and that one of Anderson, Sweeney, and McCarthy will be gone(or a huge package of lesser prospects/players, probably 3 or 4 of Diaz, Munoz, Baj, Adkins, Cotts, Borchard, Spidale, Valdez, Harris). If you want to get RJ, you better as hell make sure you can get all the holes filled, because trading for RJ will create atleast one new hole, and potentially more. That's something you have to deal with if you want to get one of the best pitcher's in the league, even if he's 41 years old.

You wouldn't get Shields for Konerko. There were talks about how Anaheim wouldn't include Shields(along with others of course) in a package to Arizona for RJ. I think that tells you a little bit of how much they value Scott Shields. I would like Hairston and Julio for Konerko though. Move Gload to 1B, and have Everett become the team's 1B/OF type, and the good thing about Everett is that he can actually play the OF(unlike Gload). If Gload can't hack starting, you have Everett start at 1B. Hairston is a big-time risk to stay healthy...but when he does stay healthy, he can be a pretty solid player. If we were to acquire him, he would become the leadoff hitter with Vizquel moving down to the #2 spot where he is much more comfortable. If that happened, I'd imagine the lineup would look similar to this... Hairston - RF/CF Vizquel - SS Thomas - DH Lee - LF Rowand - CF/RF Gload - 1B Uribe - 2B Crede - 3B Davis - C

And I still proved that wrong. And it has nothing to do with Orlando Cabrera's uniform. It has to do with statistics and how Jose Valentin typically gets to more balls and produces more outs then Cabrera.

I like it. I'm not a big fan of having Everett start, especially in RF, but I like the team a lot. There is definately good depth all around and that rotation could be one of the better ones in the league, and the pen is pretty solid too. If that team stayed healthy, it could be a 90 win team.

Like it was last year when these two teams met? That was an ugly damn game

If your nuts are as big as apples, that's usually not a good thing. You should talk to your doctor.

I can see that to an extent. Maybe not the 150 RBI seasons, but I can definately see similarities in the stats, and I can see it a little in the swings too. I could definately see Uribe becoming a .280 30 100 .800 guy someday, if not better. If he can stay out of those prolonged slumps of his, or atleast keep them short, he could hit .310-.320 over a full year...or he could hit a lot of homers. Or both. I Uribe

I have to believe he is referring to the fact that some teams have pitchers who are more ground ball oriented while others are more flyball oriented. His argument makes no sense here, however. The White Sox pitching staff is pretty much a ground ball staff. To think that Carlos Lee's range factor is swayed by the pitching staff is wrong. Add to that the fact that almost any flyball hit to LF can go out on any given day due to the airflow in there, and it makes it even harder for Carlos's numbers to be swayed. Carlos is probably the most underrated player on the team. It would be a damn shame to see him go.