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QUOTE (flavum @ Apr 23, 2013 -> 10:59 AM) If you know how much snow Minneapolis got, this is pretty impressive... https://twitter.com/Twins/status/326722935836520448/photo/1

I did love Saturday draft day, but Thursday works for me. Get off work, get s***faced and watch the first round, and then see teams jockey for position for the first pick of the 2nd round. Do the same thing Friday night. Then Saturday, do what you want. Rumors that the Bills want to trade down because they only have 6 picks. MAYBE DON'T TRADE A 7TH ROUND PICK FOR TAVARIS JACKSON.

QUOTE (joeynach @ Apr 22, 2013 -> 10:17 PM) Yep, whats the ceiling for Beckham, .275/.330/.410/.740, wow. For Flowers .250/.320/.440/.760, great. For Viciedo .300/.310/.450/.760. For Alexei, .285/.325/.420/.745. For Keppinger .300/.320/.400/.720. For De Aza, .290/.340/.400/.740. That seems about right to me, not a guy with a ceiling to me at or above .800 OPS. There just isn't going to be a lot of production now, nor if they all somehow turn it around and hit these numbers. Just a bunch of .750 OPS players.....slightly above average as an all goes well ceiling. Yuck! This post is ridiculous because you are talking about ceilings and then lowering the ceiling. Using the averages provided - I like those numbers - here's about what you'd see. Beckham hits .275, he's almost certain to walk atleast to career averages, if not better. That's a .340 OBP. He'd also, inevitably, hit for more power too, which will increase his Iso. He's a .775 OPS player at .275. Tyler Flowers walks a lot and hits for a lot of power. If he hits .250, he's going to have a .350 OBP and a .500 slugging. I really see no way around it. He's an .850 OPS player at his ceiling. I'm going to tackle Jeff Keppinger before Viciedo, because both are absolutely hilarious and terrible projections. For Keppinger, I will agree that his ceiling is about a .300 average in this park. To put up an IsoOBP of .020, his walk rate would have to be 2.9%. He doesn't walk a lot, but with a career walk rate of 6.4%, it's safe to say that he'd probalby put up a .340 OBP at the bare minimum if he hit .300 (that's 19 walks over the course of 650 PA's. He tried to do that in 2011 at 3%...but that's till better than 2.9%). Which brings me to the Viciedo projection of .300/.310 and I'm stopping right there, because that would mean he'd walk like 9 times over the course of 650 PAs or, in 500 PAs, he's going to walk or be hit by a pitch 7 times. He's not a very patient hitter, but that's just not going to happen. He's also not a .300 hitter. If he did, he'd put up an OPS of around .850. You have De Aza's ceiling at .290/.340/.400, but he put up .280/.350/.410 last year. Keep lowering that ceiling. Flowers, Viciedo, and Beckham have legitimately high ceilings as all around players. Alexei is primarily here to hit for a decent average and play slick defense. De Aza is a perfectly good player, especially at his ceiling. However, you are extremely unlikely to see players' ceilings and rather their medians, which is exactly what you see. Sometimes, when they go through rough stretches, you see their floors too. This is not an exciting team and in fact is a boring team that is likely going to finish around .500 (though I think they'll still end up around 83-85 wins), but to suggest that these guys have low ceilings is absurd. I am glad you mentioned the ceilings of Konerko, Dunn, and Rios though. Oh, and the ceiling of the pitching staff too.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 23, 2013 -> 09:41 AM) Fine, attendance is irrelevant. We should only judge the team on revenues produced/profits made. Done. And every season, no worries as we're usually 29th in the majors in attendance heading into May. In fact, we're way ahead of the Indians. And the Orioles ONLY drew 11,000+ fans last night, so we weren't dead last in attendance for May 22nd games either. That's one way of looking at it. Or you can just see that this is a team that doesn't start drawing well until June and July because the weather sucks and school is still in progress, and quite frankly, there is no one on this team that is incredibly marketable right now whom people would go out of their way to see. It's a boring, boring team. b****ing about attendance right now is like b****ing about an inch of snow at the start of a blizzard. It's not going to get better any time soon.

FYI, as a pro-gun advocate, I have no problem with a national registry.

QUOTE (ptatc @ Apr 23, 2013 -> 08:46 AM) If he is healthy and throwing well, what purpose does it serve to keep him in the minors? See which Chicago star can sit out the longest while healthy?

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 23, 2013 -> 01:44 AM) At the rate we're going, at the end of the homestand, we'll be in 29th place out of 30 teams in MLB attendance. If we're lucky, we will still be ahead of SEA....that's after 15 homes games, or 18.5% of the season. To stay out of 29th place, we'll need to average 16,045 in the next 6 games, for a total of 96,273 fans. BOTTOM 10 21. Minnesota 26,481 22. Tampa Bay 21,904 23. Houston 21,596 24. Kansas City 20,984 25. Pittsburgh 20,615 26. SOX 20,188 27. Miami 19,586 28. Oakland 19,309 29. Seattle 18,531 30. Cleveland 15,194 I'm OK with everyone else venting, but would you give up this f***ing attendance act? The Sox have drawn well in April like 1 time in the last 15 years, and they had to win a World Series the year before that happened. The fact that they're averaging 20,000 is encouraging enough for me.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Apr 17, 2013 -> 05:50 PM) ? How can you make that statement? Have you ever even been in a locker room? Have you ever been a manager of anything? There are always folks that contribute things to the whole that is difficult to quantify. Do you remember Jack Haley? Jack Haley doesn't have to be a player. Josh Hamilton has what essentially amounts to a sponsor that generally follows him around place to place that was on the Rangers payroll and he didn't play a single inning. I also take it, then, that you believe the team is losing this year because they got rid of Orlando Hudson because he was an incredible influence on the locker room. The one area of baseball that is difficult to objectively qualify is coaching - not managing, but coaching - and its effect on players. Why is Jim Hickey a better pitching coach in Tampa than he was in Houston? Why does Don Cooper generally make pitchers better? Why does it work with some pitchers and not others?

Well, Marc Hulet's a fan anyways http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/fangraphs-t...00-prospects-2/

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Apr 19, 2013 -> 01:25 PM) The scouting reports I've read list Sanchez as a plus defensive player at 2B and an average defensive player at SS. He's nothing like Tyler Kuhn defensively. However, given his lack of power, he projects much better offensively at SS at the moment. I'm guessing they want to wait and see how he develops with the bat and how teams needs open up in the future before ultimately deciding which position he should be at long-term. In the meantime, you play him at both positions and increase his defensive flexibility. I wouldn't say much better. You would prefer him to play SS, but you prefer anybody to play SS. It sounds like his max value is at 2B. Besides, the difference between the average 2B (.701 OPS) and SS (.688 OPS) is negligible. (numbers from 2012)

QUOTE (Jake @ Apr 19, 2013 -> 01:32 PM) EDIT 222 2:29 PM: Confusion on the car from media. Car with plate 116-GC7 found. EDIT 221 2:28 PM: WCVB - Father says he talked to the bombers and they denied being at the Marathon. http://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/1coq..._thread_part_5/ I don't post on a White Sox message board either

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Apr 19, 2013 -> 12:21 PM) This April weather sucks my dick. I always say this phrase, but just now realize how weird it is. You say "this weather sucks my dick" because it's cold and it is not good, but wouldn't weather that fellated you be awesome? Now, if you were to say this weather "bites my dick," I would find that much easier to believe.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Apr 19, 2013 -> 12:06 PM) CNN just announced that the White Sox-Twins game will be played as scheduled. NY Post has exclusive photos of the event

QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Apr 19, 2013 -> 12:10 PM) I got news for you, your son is probably going to kill himself once he realizes he has no way out. But let us be concerned about saving him. I was mostly working on Badger's thoughts. If he doesn't kill himself and fights back, the police are going to kill him anyways.

QUOTE (Cali @ Apr 19, 2013 -> 12:00 PM) This mostly has to be because of wind right? Cause it was at least as cold in Cleveland for a few of those games. I'm pretty sure it's 40 degrees with a chance for depression everyday in Cleveland.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Apr 19, 2013 -> 11:58 AM) I need to build them a website. What a piece of s***. "Copyright © 2005-2012 NexPump, Inc" b****es don't even know what year it is

Well what was it the dad said? Something like "if something happens to my other son, there's going to be hell to pay," right? And he has a military background in Chechen, right?

Richard Collins, best known as Phil (Philadelphia) Collins on Trailer Park Boys. f***ing dirty mustard tiger

QUOTE (flavum @ Apr 19, 2013 -> 11:52 AM) If the Sox went 9-1 on that trip, do they do this? Yes. If it's October, no.

http://deadspin.com/boston-is-empty-476448732

QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Apr 19, 2013 -> 11:26 AM) I get that part and why, however seeing a headline of "suspect 2's head blown off" would be OK with me too. As long as it wasn't from a self-inflicted IED explosion that takes out others with, yeah, I'd be OK

All you can do at this point is hope you can catch him without killing him.

He got out in an SUV. Apparently in the firefight, perhaps when he saw his brother go down, he climbed back into the SUV and floored it and broke away from police.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Apr 19, 2013 -> 10:55 AM) Surprisingly, Deadspin had been a good source of news throught the week. The best by far. BTW, this isn't new or ironic at all. They always ask the right questions and have no problem uncovering stories that people otherwise try to cover up. In my mind, they are the ideal in journalistic integrity any more. Plus, the Funbags and Jambaroos are awesome.

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Apr 19, 2013 -> 10:28 AM) I'd go, but I still don't see how people say they "love the park", because the park flat out sucks. Everything about it is just bad. I have no issues with loving the history, not that it's a very good history, but I at least get that. But loving the physical structure itself is an exercising in "loving" bad. I think it's a great history, much in the way Blazing Saddles is a great movie.