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f***ing disappointments, all of you

QUOTE (chisoxfan09 @ Mar 13, 2010 -> 03:48 AM) Sad to say though it is becoming more and more of a business and that is what rules now. Just like the NFL, NBA, and to some extent the NHL. Every single one of those sports is a billion dollar business. With that comes money. It happens; it's a natural evolution of human beings. If you really wanted to blame someone, I'd suggest starting with Curt Flood, but you can blame whomever you want, and a good starting point after Flood would be the 94 strike. Anyways, why should Joe Mauer, being arguably the most valuable player in the entire MLB, not want his cut? If you are making $67,000 a year, and your company offers a payraise to $100,000, but a rival company offers you $200,000, though tougher working conditions but the same guarantee - pay for 8 years - which are you going to take? Joe Mauer is obviously dealing with 9 digit numbers, but the fact remains that the dude needs to get paid, and if the Twins don't come to the plate, they will lose him. You don't need to cave, but you need to give some. He's worth an 8 year contract, and he's worth $20 mill a year. If you don't want to give him Manny money, then I guarantee someone will.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Mar 11, 2010 -> 05:26 PM) Only 8 runs? I think it might be a little more than that. The domino effect might have more effect than the lack of Nathan in the closers' role. But then again, the Twins have decent depth in middle relief. Condrey will now replace Rauch, maybe 8-10 runs will be the difference there. Who knows. Jesse Crain is involved, and he's still a pretty talented reliever. If anything, Condrey replaces Crain, who replaces Rauch. The less you can mess up the madness that is your average bullpen, the better. I actually think keeping Guerrier and Mijares in their setup roles is already phenomenal managing by Gardenhire and company, simply because Guerrier is not capable of closing (think Ryan Franklin with worse stuff and a worse, though not bad, pitching coach) and the Twins don't have a second lefty they can trust in the pen. I will not be surprised to see Mijares OR Liriano closing if the Twins don't feel Liriano can start games and they feel one of the two is very capable of closing. Personally, I think Mijares makes a mean closer, but I think Thornton does the same thing (though better), but the Sox don't have late inning left handed reliever, so I think Thornton is most valuable in the role he is. QUOTE (Kalapse @ Mar 11, 2010 -> 06:35 PM) I have another: 6 of Rivera's 18 blown saves since 2004 (yeah, that's all) were multi-inning save opportunities. Only 12 times since 2004 has Mariano Rivera blown a save that started in the 9th inning. That's 2 f***ing blown saves a year. Craziness. As for Nathan: only 2 of his 25 blown saves were multi-inning affairs. So that's 23 9th inning saves blown. So Rivera has attempted 51 multi-inning saves since 2004 and successfully closed out 88% of them. Nathan has attempted only 13 multi-inning saves since 2004 and successfully closed out 85% of them. Personally, I think this puts an end to the debate. (not that anyone is still cares) I care. Mariano Rivera is one of the greatest pitchers I'm ever going to see. The only problem with this is that I don't care for somebody telling me something I already know, which is what you've done (although you've only proven that he's light years better than Nathan). I've never, and I doubt I will ever, see a pitcher dominate hitters based on pure pitching ability alone like I have with Rivera. You'll have pitchers like Nathan and Gagne and KRod and whoever else that have crazy stuff that goes away, but Rivera is seriously one of the greatest pitchers a person will get to see pitch. He's not unhittable, he's just very hard to hit, and I do truly appreciate that about him. He wants to pitch till he's 45, and I think he could pitch till he's 50 or 55. If he can keep the difference between his fastball and his cutter distinguishable, he could pitch till he died. And I don't think I'm exaggerating.

QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Mar 10, 2010 -> 10:09 AM) This is the Minnesota Twins. Every time someone goes down, they bring someone up who does just as well. Is this a huge loss, sure? Is some no-name AAA reliever going to come in and play well? Probably. Uhhh...no. They have replacements for every player, sure, but you don't just replace the second best closer of the past half decade with a nobody. Jon Rauch might be solid, but he doesn't have the fastball, nor the slider, nor the curve, nor the 2-seamer that Nathan does. Nathan was brought up as a starting pitcher, and had starting pitching caliber stuff, but couldn't put it together as a starter. Hell, it took him a bit as a reliever in Minnesota to put it together as a reliever. Once he did, he took off. Haven't seen it, but I imagine his 2004 statistics look something like 7+ ERA in April and May, and maybe June, and from a certain point on, it's sub 3, maybe sub 2, when he took over the closer role. He's been dynamite ever since, and it's a huge blow to Minnesota. Personally, I think this has a huge, huge effect on the Twins pitching staff. They had everything set in place (Nathan, Guerrier-Mijares, Rauch, Crane, dude)...they won't mess with the setup duo, but their early and closing duties got a bit different. I look forward to it.

QUOTE (chisoxfan09 @ Mar 13, 2010 -> 02:46 AM) Are you basing that on the fact that it could mean the Evil Empire could get him again and it will always be based on who has the deepest pockets? No, it would mean that the absolute best player in the game was not able to resign with his current team and, thus, had to be traded to receive "fair" compensation. It's the same thing as Johan Santana, though the Twins were very, very smart to deal him.

Who cares? Jared Mitchell was a great prospect, other than his speed, to begin with. He's already shown a propensity to walk, he showed a bit power in college, and he's raw enough that he still has the ability to learn. He's f***ing fine. If he loses a year, is it really a huge deal? And if he regains his speed, then halle-f***ing-lujah. If not, who cares? He's still a LF/trading piece. He's still a good prospect.

QUOTE (chisoxfan09 @ Mar 10, 2010 -> 03:01 PM) I like Santos arm but he could be a good piece of a future Agon deal (I know I know) but who knows. He would be a final piece that would mean virtually nothing in the long run. Even as good as his stuff is or may be, he's still raw.

QUOTE (SoxFan562004 @ Mar 11, 2010 -> 03:15 PM) yeah, and it's not like anyone in that division is blowing anyone out of the water. Dodgers won 95 games last year, Rockies 92, and the Giants 88, and I don't think any of those teams got worse. That division is pretty solid all around. All 3 have solid rotations, good bullpens, and good (or in the Giants case, adequate) lineups. The Diamondbacks will still have to have a hell of a lot go right for them to compete.

QUOTE (Melissa1334 @ Mar 11, 2010 -> 05:56 PM) i hope mauer resigns with the twins. their payroll is what, about 100mil right now? they bumped it up knowing theyll get a lot of people at the new park. but next yr or the yr after, twins fans will get over it and not care anymore about baseball like always. i think their payroll will go back down to around the 70mil range and 20-25 mil commited to just mauer sounds good to me. When have Twins fans not cared about baseball? Dumb, ignorant, and arrogant, maybe, but they care about their baseball (and no offense of course Jim, you're a treat. I just know too many Twins fans who meet the aforementioned qualities).

QUOTE (greg775 @ Mar 12, 2010 -> 12:37 AM) How's he looking this spring? The money thing always amazes me in baseball. Teams play guys and keep guys cause they make a lot of money. And the LOSE GAMES because of this and ultimately lose money. If a guy sucks put him in the Carrasco role of last year. Long long relief or send him down. That's what they do in the NFL. They cut your ass. Player keeps the bonus money but not the yearly contract money. It's a business too Greg. You want to get whatever you can out of your investment. If you buy a hot stock that you are sure is going to explode, but instead implodes, you may as well hang onto it to try and earn some value. There's no point in cutting it at its lowest value when there may be some type of redeeming quality within it. Meanwhile, these guys like Daniel Cabrera and Erick Threets are junk bonds. If they suck, you can cut them and completely forget about it. And contracts are not guaranteed in the NFL. Comparing the NFL to any other major sport is comparing apples to oranges.

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Mar 11, 2010 -> 11:49 PM) That's what I was going to say too. See if the Cubs want him, and pay half his salary or whatever. The only good thing Linebrink has ever done for this team is talked Peavy into coming here. Linebrink didn't talk Peavy into coming here. I'm sure his presence and his feedback was appreciated, but the reason Peavy turned down the trade initially was because the Padres had a better record than the White Sox, and the reason he accepted the second time was because the Sox were in the thick of the division race and the Padres were floundering. Peavy wants to win, and has said as much.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Mar 11, 2010 -> 03:19 AM) This. I mean, yes, it's nasty and crap, but if they were 16 and 15, and it was done with consent...how is he a sex offender? Because he had sex with his sister. Incestual sex is against the law.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Mar 9, 2010 -> 10:02 PM) Well, at 33, he should hit pretty well in the minor leagues. /facepalm

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Mar 9, 2010 -> 02:14 AM) Completely hypothetical question here, but what if the Padres said this..... You can have A-Gon, as long as you give us.... Beckham + lower lvl prospect (Back end of our top 10 prospects) or Mitchell, Danks, Flowers, and Hudson You had to pick one deal, you could not just say "No", what deal would you do? I'd hang up the phone.

QUOTE (SEALgep @ Mar 8, 2010 -> 07:02 PM) Also said he switched agents to Scott Boras... By the time he gets up, who knows how long he'll be around. The White Sox have control of him for 6 seasons, just as they do any minor leaguer.

QUOTE (SouthsideDon48 @ Mar 7, 2010 -> 02:40 PM) I was actually thinking about this the other day. With how it seems like we'll have Quentin and Rios for a while, we'll need to move Quentin if we ever have Jordan Danks and Mitchell up on the major league roster someday. I can actually see Quentin moving to DH, Rios play CF, and Danks and Mitchell play the corners in 2012. I kind of think the Sox will have Mitchell be mentored by Pierre for as long as Pierre is here, and maybe once Pierre is gone after the 2011 season, Mitchell might be ready for the majors. I actually wouldn't be against keeping Pierre as a 4th outfielder after 2011, anyway. I highly doubt both Mitchell and Danks make it, and if they do, I'd be surprised if they do it in Chicago.

TO isn't a head case. He's a hot dog and a bit of a primadonna, but he's not a head case. And he's still damn good too. If you can catch 55 passes for 829 yards with Ryan "no-arm" Fitzpatrick and Trent "dump down" Edwards as your QBs, you have separation skills. Great receivers have pretty good shelf life and so I'd figure Owens still probably has another 2 years or so left in him.

QUOTE (T R U @ Mar 5, 2010 -> 09:39 PM) ahh the buckle, home of the $100 tshirts You ever play the Buckle Game and win? Cuz I have.

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QUOTE (The Beast @ Mar 4, 2010 -> 11:35 PM) Some guy on facebook claims it is a done deal and Kaplan said that the Bears will not be outpid for Peppers. I don't know why they would spend all of the money on the pass rusher when they are lacking at defensive back and safety. The Cover 2 defense is designed to get pressure on the QB with the front four. If those four are getting pressure on the QB, it will force the QB to either make a decision - throw the ball away (if he can escape the pocket), make a bad pass, or perhaps find an open man. In a Cover 2, if your front four are, at all times, outstanding, your secondary can be replacement level players and the defense will be just fine. You just need a linebacking crew and a good strong safety to be able to stop the run. If you can run a Cover 2 defense and stop the run, you can do quite a few things as a team. Ask the Colts, Vikings, or even the Bears. In regards to Lovie's system, Julius Peppers is much, much more valuable than Antrel Rolle is, even if his motor is only on half-speed.

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Sounds like a desperate plan to save some jobs. Atleast they're trying to bring in quite a bit of talent.

QUOTE (FlaSoxxJim @ Mar 3, 2010 -> 09:41 PM) Grrrr. . . I use up the last 1.5 oz of 8-year PR rum in the house, another 1.5 oz of coveted Appleton 12, an ounce of Goslings 151, carefully measure out 6 more ingredients in anticipation of a perfect 1934 Don the Beachcomber zombie. . . And then I fock it up on the last ingredient, adding 1/4 tsp instead of 1/8 tsp of Pernod. I knew it looked like too much as I was putting it in, and sure enough I used the wrong measuring spoon. Anything but Pernod and it's no big deal. But with the heavy anise flavor of the Pernod, any sort of overpour just totally throws off the balance, unless you are a big fan of black licorice and Good 'N Plentys. Which I am not. There is almost enough high-octane rum in this one to overcome it, but not quite. And so the cocktail I'd been looking forward to for a couple of days now days is now a flawed gem. ETA: I even squeezed afresh grapefruit for a nice, zippy Donn's Mix #2 to go in this one. Grrrr. Measure twice, cut once

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Mar 4, 2010 -> 05:35 PM) Oh right. Nah, I only sell to friends and family. No internet deals for me. Eghh...that doesn't sound like a business that has success in its future.

QUOTE (Ozzie Ball @ Mar 4, 2010 -> 12:52 PM) Yeah reading sucks. Making uninformed statements is much better. The rankings have a age factor and are based off of the previous 3 years of performance, not just last year. He's 35 points behind King Felix at the top of the list, for example, but is losing 60 age points to him, he's losing 80 age points to Sandoval and 100 to Justin Upton but is only 23 and 16 points behind them respectively. So it's basically a projection of what type of value James sees these guys having for the rest of their cumulative careers. It really doesn't seem like that big of a deal.