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QUOTE (santo=dorf @ Mar 3, 2009 -> 05:48 PM) Andruw Jones has gotten off to a terrible start. He was 1-9 with 8 K's, but now it's 2-13 with 9 K's. That means he's 1-4 with 1 K in his last 4. ULTRA IMPROVEMENT

QUOTE (MurcieOne @ Mar 3, 2009 -> 12:12 PM) Minnesota interested in obtaining Cutler. If they do, they'd have to be considered favorites to win the NFC. The Bears are in a better position to make a deal for Cutler than Minnesota, Jerry Angelo... your career is on the clock. I honestly don't think either team is in a good position to trade for Cutler. Unless McDaniels views Orton/Rosenfels as a viable replacement, neither side has a chance. If all Denver would be looking for is draft picks, then it is a completely different story obviously.

QUOTE (kane0730 @ Mar 3, 2009 -> 10:25 AM) Nevermind, found it: 78.5 I would take the over. They've only won fewer than 80 games once this entire decade and only twice in the past 13 years.

QUOTE (PlaySumFnJurny @ Feb 27, 2009 -> 10:07 AM) I'm not swayed by the tenure argument. JFK was only president for 3 years, and he is on the half-dollar. Shoeless Joe may have been the greatest all-around player to ever wear a White Sox uniform, and while he was here, he won pennants and a series. The White Sox don't have too many of those. Lyons is deserving and I considered him, but I doubt many non-Sox fans have heard of him. Shoeless Joe is both deserving and iconic, though for both good and bad reasons. And don't forget, Shoeless Joe was found "not guilty." Blago might not be so lucky. There is no debate on that topic. Frank Thomas was the greatest all-around player to ever wear a White Sox uniform.

former Sox update - Heath Phillips is in Royals camp

QUOTE (whitesoxbrian @ Mar 2, 2009 -> 04:40 PM) 25 TD's and 20 turnovers isn't very good. But hey, he throws the ball hard so let's trade 80,000 picks for him. Kyle Orton had 17 turnovers, and the Bears didn't throw the ball nearly as much as the Broncos did. 25:18:20 TD/INT/TO 18:12:17 TD/INT/TO Add to it that Cutler completed 4% more throws throughout the season and that his YPA was damn near a full yard more, and it's not hard to see that Cutler is a superior QB. Marshall is a #1 receiver but I don't know if I'd say he's one of the 10 best in the NFL, and Eddie Royal is, as I said before, nothing more than a solid slot receiver. Their big numbers are because of Cutler playing QB and not the other way around. Their numbers are also inflated because of how much Denver actually threw the ball, but that's because Denver played to their strength at QB, which also speaks volumes about Cutler. So, to counter your statement, 18 TD's and 17 TO's isn't very good either; in fact, I'd say it's far worse than 25:20.

QUOTE (whitesoxbrian @ Mar 2, 2009 -> 03:25 PM) If you get Orton Marshall and Royal, he probably has identical stats to Cutler. That's absurd.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 2, 2009 -> 03:07 PM) 3 picks in the first 60 then? Excellent. Hopefully we save some money in the budget for some prospects. Makes you wonder if that's why they spent hardly anything this offseason. Perhaps they could have fit a few others into the payroll, but wanted to be able to pay a few guys that may fall for slight signability reasons.

Matt Schaub was traded for two 2nd round picks with the Texans and Falcons also swapping their first round picks that year (Atlanta moved up 2 spots, from 10 to 8). Matt Schaub threw for 1033 yards and had a 6/6 TD:INT ratio in sporadic playing time in 3 years with the Falcons. Using the same type of metrics, for Denver to trade Cutler, it will probably take a 1st round pick, a 2nd round pick, and then a conditional 1st or 2nd next year as well. I don't see it as possible at all, unless Denver wants to try and go out and acquire Matt Gutierrez to see if McDaniels can work his magic again, because they don't have anybody behind Cutler that's even worth trying to start.

QUOTE (whitesoxbrian @ Mar 2, 2009 -> 11:06 AM) Thank you. Finally someone with a clue. How will he have time to throw here? Who will he throw to? Freaking Devin Hester and Earl Bennett? Rashied Davis? If Jay Cutler was traded to the Bears, Hester would catch for 1200 yards and I could realistically see Bennett and Olsen both catching for 800+ yards. He's also better at throwing when he's on the run, so that will help make up for a piss-poor O-Line too.

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Mar 2, 2009 -> 10:27 AM) Aftr watching the horrendous defensive play of Wilson Betemit in Sundays ST games versus the Dodgers maybe we should make an offer to Cabrera and keep him at short. no

since when is Eddie Royal a stud? Solid slot receiver, sure, but I wouldn't label him as a stud.

Brian Dawkins to Denver. Didn't see that coming. Oh, and it's McCown, not Gown

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Feb 27, 2009 -> 02:05 PM) And once again, the Bears will have a chance to win the NFC North, simply because the rest of the division stinks... The Vikings actually have a semi-competent QB now. They are the clear cut favorites at this point in time in my mind. The Packers should also be better than 0-7 in close games again this season.

lol, Milton Bradley got pulled in the first inning with a tight quad. LOLLERCOASTER

QUOTE (Felix @ Feb 26, 2009 -> 05:05 PM) I think the amount of hate White Sox fans have for the Cubs is annoying and stupid. The Cubs series means absolutely nothing in the context of baseball, and it has basically nothing to do with our team making or missing the playoffs. The games against the Twins, on the other hand, actually have relevance to our playoff chances and should be considered much more important than the six games against the Cubs. I do realize that Cub fans are annoying, but that has absolutely no impact on whether or not our team is successful. Baseball is more than just the game on the field. I'll leave it at that before I go into some mushy rant about how baseball is a lifestyle for some, yada yada. The Sox-Cubs rivalry is among the best in the majors, and is very easily the best interleague rivalry there is.

QUOTE (Felix @ Feb 26, 2009 -> 10:31 AM) Honestly, that's really sad. You wouldn't care that our main rival won the World Series? The Twins are our competition if we ever want to win anything. The Cubs? 6 games. It's pretty much an opinionated argument. You go to school in Minnesota and fathom works in the greater Chicago area. It's pretty apparent as to why he would not want the Cubs to win and you would not want the Twins to win. Personally, I hate the s*** out of both of them.

QUOTE (letsgoarow @ Feb 26, 2009 -> 09:13 AM) Who's A-Rod? I think he's a bowler or a golfer...?

you know, personally, I hope they get a few more pictures of ARod before the Spring is over. I haven't seen enough of him yet.

QUOTE (Kenny Hates Prospects @ Feb 25, 2009 -> 10:44 AM) If Brian ever reaches his potential he can be a #6 or #7 guy. I've always felt he could be kind of like a Torii Hunter. The chances of that happening are probably pretty small though, because if he doesn't win the job this ST and perform right away, then he'll probably never get another extended shot again. God I hope Brian does well. Go Brian. I'm sick of having to defend that guy. I just want him to hit .270 over the course of a 500+ AB season, because if he does that, there are going to be 20+ HR that go along with it. For Brian Anderson to hit .270, he'd have to completely change his entire swing. Or become a tape room junkie.

QUOTE (MO2005 @ Feb 25, 2009 -> 11:34 AM) Alright lets just wait till halfway through the season when everyone is whining and crying that we need Crede back! I generally don't want players that are on the disabled list on my team. QUOTE (greg775 @ Feb 25, 2009 -> 02:11 PM) I got ripped a new one for suggesting to me that he's Brooks Robinson on defense. Deservedly so. Joe is a good defender, but Brooks Robinson was one of the greatest defenders at 3B of all time, and Joe's not even the best in AL (and arguably the AL Central) when he's playing 100%.

this.team.is.dead /obligatory

QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Feb 24, 2009 -> 04:08 PM) should be funny. Got my tickets for that 1st Twins game, its always cool to see an entire stadium cheer for a returning guy. I'll be interested to see what kind of ovation Crede really gets. I'd stand and applaud him, but the average fan may view him as a traitor for signing with the Twins and not giving the Sox any chance to resign him, even if they had absolutely no intentions to in the first place.

I think it's more likely that both Colon and Contreras begin the year on the DL than it is for both to open the year on the opening day roster, no matter the positive reports we've heard (which I am encouraged by).

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Feb 18, 2009 -> 08:04 AM) I am not sure which are bold and which aren’t, it depends on your perspective. So here goes everything, what the hell (subject to revisions in late March)… --Buehrle struggles with the mediocre defense behind him, but does OK --Danks has a big year --Floyd opens with struggles, but improves and finishes strong --Contreras is in the rotation by end of April, and has a good year --Marquez gets the 5th spot, and takes over for Colon when JC shows up and Colon struggles badly (and is relegated to the bullpen or DL). Marquez has a decent 5th starter year. --Bullpen does surprisingly well, pretty much across the board, and is a strength for the team --Richard is in the pen, Poreda in AAA, Broadway traded before Opening Day --Konerko has a big comeback year – not huge for average, but big power and big OBP numbers --Thome struggles, bat speed is an issue, has some nagging injuries. No trade occurs though, and he limps on, deciding to retire after the season. --Fields gets 3B job, is above average offensively and only a little below average defensively, by end of year. --Alexei is similar at SS as he was at 2B – brilliant at times, but makes stupid mistakes too. Offensively, he struggles a bit, but finishes with similar numbers to last year. --Getz gets most of the playing time at 2B, and is pretty damn good by the end of the year – high OBP and average, a little power, speed, and good defense. --Owens starts in CF, actually does well, but then gets injured. Lillibridge takes over in CF, does well, and Owens fades into obscurity. --Anderson is the 4th OF, again. --TCQ puts up similar numbers to last year, maybe a little lower, but is more erratic with ups and downs. --Dye has a good year, but not great. --AJP has the best offensive season of his career, his defense is still mediocre. Armstrong wins the backup job despite being LH, and struggles. Replaced mid-season by Stewart or Lucy. --Bench starts as Lillibridge, Betemit, Anderson and Armstrong. First three do well, Armstrong not so much. --Beckham starts at AA and adjusts easily, is in AAA by August. Jordan Danks doesn’t adjust quite as quickly, finishes in AA looking good. Allen is a beast, finishes in AAA with big numbers, looks like new 1B/DH to replace Thome. AAA rotation is superb, with Poreda, Egbert and Cassel all looking nearly major league ready. Flowers finishes in AA, looks good, defense improves, but his average and OBP start to drop off a bit. Viciedo starts at AA, adjusts quickly, puts up big numbers and is in AAA for second half. Overall, the system looks very good for the Sox in 2010 and 2011. --Overall, team does far better than projected by most “experts”. They start in the middle of the pack, but it’s a very tight pack. They make a run late season, but fall just short of the division title, winning 88 games. Final standings look like this: CLE SOX -3 KC -6 MIN -7 DET -10 everyone in the AL Central finishes at .500 or better? That would be crazy.