Soxplosion

1. Psycho, you can better than that. We all love our country. That is not at issue. What we think our country should do in this situation and in its total relationship to the world is at issue. By the way, I am one of those who definitely want the draft re-instated, for everyone, and f*** no, no student deferments anymore. I want every one there to have their ass on the line and that may begin to influence their thinking. And I want everyone to be involved in government service, no more f***ing free rides for those who are too busy scheming to get their first million and whine about being too busy or better than othrs - everyone serves. Everyone. Why should my son the Marine or the grads of West Point (so to speak) be the only ones with their asses on the line? Everyone serves. Write to your congressal representative and tell her/him to support Rep. Rangel's bill to reinstate the draft, a universal draft. 2. If you are referring to the post WW1 Palmer Raids, I am impressed. Our deportation of people then was one of the most shameful times in American history since the Alien and Sedation Act under John Adams. I dont really want a draft but if we do I just hope its for the war on terror and not a war in Iraq. I dont really want to draft people who would be cowardly and unmotivated to fight. Our military is big enough and more people like myself are aiming to join in the future. We dont need people out there against there will. People like your son and hopefully me in the near future will be out there because we want to not because someone said so. JMHO... And what were the Palmer Raids? I dont know what that was. I just know we exiled like Charlie Chaplin and others for Communism and I thought why dont they do that to people who hate our country like Solay. But its a stupid thought, this guy Solay just burst my bubble, forget it...

Here are the two major reasons I think we should not attack Hussein at this moment: 1. He poses no immediate threat to US soil. He is killing Kurds but there are so many countries where the governments are killing people. Rwanda, Somalia and so many others. We cant go to all these places. So just let em go. Let em do what they want. Maybe its not right. But with this robocop idea of the US our young soldiers will die for missions that really dont need to be accomplished. I wish Saddam would sit back and behave but thats not realistic. Saddam and all other leaders like him are evil and only God can determine their fate. As for the terrorists, they do pose an immediate threat to us. Fighting back is just and everyone can do so, some like the US can just do better than others like the minority groups of Rwanda. 2. Attacking Iraq will only bring terrorism. Terrorists are the direct threat to us, like I said and they should be eliminated. So far weve actually done a pretty good job. Al Qaeda used to be a force in Afghanistan but now it is not. Afghanistan has some degree of authority now do to our actions over there. Al Qaeda still does exist but it is much smaller and its not as easy for them to carry out attacks. They are also in hiding. But attacking Iraq will provoke them to leave their caves. Hunt those who need to be hunted, which is Al Qaeda. Al Qaeda needs to be destroyed, Iraq does not.

Are you f***ing INSANE? Milosevic was committing GENOICDE. HE WAS WIPING A NATIONALITY OFF THE MAP! And you compare this because Saddam killed a few thousands Kurds? Just shutup, you have absolutely no clue what you are spewing. Wait a sec. Is there any difference between killing Kurds and killing Bosnians? No! Saddam and Milosevic are both killing people and its wrong. Milosevic is finished but Saddams still there. So its ok if ya kill a Kurd but killing a Bosnian just makes you the devil? Please dont tell me your saying this.

OK, Im sorry apu if I insulted you. This Solay guy slapped me and every American in the face. My dads friend was a firefighter who didnt come home on September 11. As for the war in Iraq, now that I think about it there may not be so much of a point in this war. My moms friend is a doctor who could go with the Marines invading Iraq. And to think that our Marines will die to catch a guy whos no real threat. I dont think NKs a threat either. They all stay in there countries and well leave eachother alone. But TWAT is more justifiable. Today I read about the Bubonic Plague for an advanced history class and the disease was spread by a rat. The rat traveled in every possible way, boat, caravan etc. In modern times, Al Qaeda is that rat. You dont know where they will be next or where they will strike. Bin Laden and his thugs must be stopped. Saddam and NK wont harm us here. But bin Laden can. And we must stop him. I really do think that war in Iraq is inevitable but I just hope if Bush does go to war he wont do anything stupid and like destroy the planet. So I guess this Solay guy does have the right to voice his opinion but I also think he has the right to leave. If he chooses not to do so then he can atleast stop complaining about this country and having to be part of this country. And why does everyone hate Bush so much? I like Bush. If Im eligible by the next ballot hes getting my vote. I thought most other Americans liked him too but now everyone seems to hate him. Why? Hes darn better than that lying scumbag Clinton. Im only 15 so I really wont understand if he did something with the economy. So apu, could you please tell me why you dont like Dubya? Is it the fact that hes a republican or something?

WHAT A PATRIOTIC AMERICAN! I guess we all have to pledge allegiance to the war. Guess what? Dubya didn't win the election on 9-11 either! If you don't like it, get the f*** out...the most anti-American statement ever. I know that Ashcroft and the Bush regime have used the Constitution for toilet paper but there is the First Amendment guaranteeing freedom of speech for the pro-war Hawks to the American Knights of the Ku Klux Klan and their racist beliefs to the pacifists that don't like to see state sponsored murder. If you wanna shut me up because I don't want to have my friends (I have 2 friends in West Point that may get shipped out and NUKE who is over in Kuwait right now) go fight and possibly die for cheaper oil prices and to confiscate weapons that the United States sold them in the first place? During the Iran-Iraq war, we knew that Saddam was gassing the Kurds and guess what Roman?.....WE PROVIDED HIM WITH THE BIOLOGICAL WEAPONS! If he was so bad, then why did we sell him the weapons? Hmmm.... And if you want to get rid of dissent, then come get me out of my motherf***ing dorm room and f***ing enlist me, beeyotch! How about reading some books by Howard Zinn, William Blum, James W. Loewen, Jerry Fresia, Bishop Sprague, etc. (check my web page for a more descript reading list) Your statement was by far the most ultra-nationalist fascist bulls*** that I have ever read. In Nazi Germany they killed off anybody who dissented against their regime...so, if anybody is the pro-Nazi fanatic...it seems to be you. So, get educated before you go off in a fascist Nazi philosophy blind rage. K thx. K thx indeed. Ok, Im a Nazi for saying I love this country, which you obviously dont? I support America to the end and someday Im gonna serve my country well. I dont want to take Jews and throw em out of the country and shoot em. I say we should take out guys like Miles Solay who insult this country and its people and shoot them. Miles Solay gave America a slap in the face and he should get lost. We exiled people for communism right? Lets do the same for these people...

Actually I support the fact this guy had his opinion voiced. If not for the sole reason that he got to go on the air and have a discussion with Bill O'Reilly who actually asked him to back up some of his ridiculous claims like the Gulf War resulted in the deaths of thousands of Iraqi children etc. Maybe people will think twice before swallowing everything they hear whether it be pro or anti-war. Wait a second, maybe this is just my anger but youre not saying you support this guy are you? At one point you say you support him voicing his opinion but then you call his claims ridiculous. Which is it? Sorry if you feel Im putting you on the spot. Please just explain that in more laymans terms... Thanks...

Hey man, dont send em after me! lol... But its probably because youre always posting lists and some people dont like that for soem reason. I like lists. I hope you keep going. I think its important that someone is always telling us where we stand. If they dont like it tho, they dont have to read it. Just like if you dont like America you dont have to be here. Theres no law saying we have to read WSCs posts. But Im going to!

Yeah, my bad, I meant to put DJ at second. Ill just go back and fix that...

I know, get off wscs back. I made a 25 man roster too. I didnt do it to provoke opinion but just to show everyone nice and neat how I think the team stands. Thats all. WSC does the same thing. He made it just to show everyone where we are. I only do it every once in a while (after several big moves) but we need someone whos always ready to tell us where were at. I like ya lists WSC, keep it going...

I thought you we're going to take a shot at me Doub. I know you love a good political discussion. Actually, I agree with you, Ian. I think violently protesting a war is idiotically ironic and it completely undermines all of us war protestors who think we can get our point across without having to blow up whatever we can get our hands on. That said and I think that all us anti-warhawks are more patriotic and more pro-military in the fact that we don't want to send our troops to Iraq so Bush and his oil CEO buddies can go and get some fat profits. I agree. Who the f*** protests violence with violence? Its like Bin Laden saying that Sept 11 was done to bring peace to the Middle East. Its hypocracy to say that. Whatever, Im done with this topic. Reading about this guy Solay and all, Im kinda pissed right now...

If Saddam had nothing why doesnt he just let us in? Then wed say thank you and leave. But no, he refuses so its his own incooperation thats pinned the bastard down. And, our supporting the Jews, is that our fault? We all have allies and the Jews and Brits are ours. I know thats why they hate us but it just aint right. Whatever, tho, Im done with this topic. This guy Solay has really pissed me off. He has spit in Americas face by saying this. He is a coward and a terrorist by saying this. Oops, coward and terrorist, I guess its all the same... So f*** YOU Solay. Thats my final word to this son of a b****.

Saddam was killing his own people and then he started killing Kuwaitis. We said this is bulls*** and we saved them. Hussein is the one who is building nukes and threatening their use. I assure you, if America is nuked Iraq will be nuked but we wont nuke first. I must admit Im for the war in Iraq. Americans will die unfortunately but that is what happens in any war. I also assure you, if Saddam is allowed to stay Americans will die and they wont be sent knowing they could die but they will be the dad who leaves his wife and child and goes to work never to come home again, just like on sept 11. Saddam getting in a war with Iran is ok, those are two countries who are capable of fighting it out, thats like me and going and beating up witesoxfan. We can both fight and its probably a fair match. Now, when Saddam attacked Kuwait he crossed the line. Kuwait couldnt fight back. That is like me going to attack one of the LD kids. Id have no problem! The USA goes and fights and its always for a just cause. Maybe Nam wasnt and the whole Communist thing was a little stupid but the rest were wars of vengeance. And what Im saying, is if you dont like this country, leave. There is no law saying "You cant leave, were all in this together". You are free to go. And Solay, I for one, and millions of others, dont give a f*** if you leave. You are nobody. Go to Iraq. Live with Saddam and then when he comes out and gasses your ass I am going to laugh. Thats another thing. Have you ever been to these countries where you say were f***ing everything up? Do you know what kinda s*** goes on in these places? No, you dont. So visit these countries before you say were the ones f***in up life in those countries. Saddams been f***ing up life in Iraq far longer than we have. If he stays, hell be f***ing up life in a lot of places. Get a f***in clue you jackass. And didnt Jeremy Glick himself die aboard Flight 93 fighting the terrorists? I know he had a son coming but hed only be like one and a half right now. Can someone please explain which Jeremy Glick this f***ers talking about? Besides, I think its bulls*** that any conscious person who lost relatives on Sept 11 would agree with this piece of s***. And congrats to you, Mr OReilly for actually getting to tell this motherf***er what a deusche he is...

Who the f*** is this guy to call us a terrorist nation? Is this prick actually American? They should take him and the members of his f***ing group and gas the motherf***ers. Or they could just give me this guys address. Id take pleasure in paying this son of a b**** a visit. Id cut his f***ing eyeballs out with a f***ing pick ax and if he had a heart I would rip it out too! This pisses me off. Ya know what, you can leave, if ya dont like it here, get the f*** out! I recently heard about some Pakistani b****ass brothers who said they hate they US but they want to come to our good colleges. Ya know what, f*** you! We aint giving our education away to sons of b****es like you. Find these nazi muffins and chop off their mutha f***in heads! Im not gonna blame our schools. I go to school here but they aint molding me into thinking that we are a terrorist nation. Heck, if theyve molded me into anything, its a patriot. I love this country! Before we start the war in Iraq. We should start the war here. People like this need to shut the f*** up, and if they wont volunteer we need to volunteer the bastards anyways! This pisses me off! BTW, no matter where I use the second person form here it is not directed at any of you. Just to avoid any confusion...

Its not really going to West Point thats my goal in all of this. West Point would be cool but I just wanna go to college (unless you talk to my mom my grades are pretty good, 4 As, 1 B and 1 C) so that I can become an officer. I wanna be stationed overseas and I wanna serve my country. Thats when we all should really celebrate...

Hey dude, I am against the war. My son is a marine, by the way. When your ass is in the front lines, then you can have that opinion as a man. As long as you are sitting at home all safe and comfy, you are a hypocrite for what you post. If you believe what you say, enlist. Enlist now. Back up your words with your actions. Enlist and fight the war that you support rather than watch sports amnd post on message boards and send off other people to kill and die. What a f***ing hypocrite. Big mouth, no actions. Calm down Vince, its ok, just calm down... Im going to try to go to Westpoint and then become a career officer in the Army. I may not go to Westpoint but Im going to some college and then Im going to be an officer. A ground commander or a helicopter pilot...

Link I feel sorry for Robbins. Its sad that anyone has to feel such sadness. Im glad, that while others go out rioting, some Raiders fan actually act with class. Way to help him out, guys!

LINEUP Jiminez 2B #### Valentin SS #### Thomas DH #### Ordonez RF #### Konerko 1B #### Lee LF #### Crede 3B #### Rowand CF (Id like KW to sign Cruz in case Rowands not ready) #### Olivo C (Alomars all washed up, unless Olivo shows he isnt ready he should be starting, when you hit a homerun in your first mlb off Andy Pettitte in Yankee Stadium in September you can obviously handle some amount of pressure) BENCH Daubach 1B/DH #### Rios LF #### Alomar C #### Harris 2B/CF ROTATION Buehrle (his numbers werent as good as Colons but this is his rotation, he goes first) #### Colon #### Garland #### Wright (should Wright fail, hav Loaiza or somebody replace him, but I do believe he will succeed) #### Rauch (maybe Loaiza could have an immediate spot in the rotation but hed have to beat out Rauch and I doubt thats going to happen) BULLPEN Koch #### Wunsch #### Marte #### Glover #### Gordon #### White #### Loaiza (I think he should be given an immdeiate chance for the seventh spot in the pen, hes better than Ginter or Porzio and he could be a decent long reliever / spot starter)

Washed up? Is he old or something? From what I see he hit .305 at AAA and hes had limited mlb action. That sounds damn good to me...

Behind Daubach, Burkes the second best guy in all of this. One extra catcher cant hurt. And this guy looks good too. Now can I have his age please? If hes young KW may have stumbled on to something. If he cant beat Olivo for the starting job he could beat Alomar for the backup job or he could atleast make good trade bait...

Brian Daubach looks like an ogre... but that doesnt mean hes a damn good baseball player... As for the rest of the guys, I dont think any of them will make the team. Rauch would do better than Heredia or Loaiza as the fifth starter, even tho hes just a rookie. I think Rauch could post maybe a 4.50 ERA and over the last couple of years Heredia and Loaiza have seemed incapable of doing that. Heredia was real good for the As a couple years ago but not anymore. Hes over the hill. Cooper, Morales and Brumbaugh dont look like much. But Burke could be a diamond in the rough. It didnt give his age (hes seen limited mlb action) but at AAA he had some pretty good stats. Maybe if Olivo isnt ready instead of using Alomar, we could try this guy. He could also be a third catcher. If Olivo fails I dont think I want Alomar playing the rest of the season... In light of the new signings, Im going to post what I think will be the complete 25 man roster on a new thread...

Jackson had two picks and was mvp. Dwight Smith had two picks, both of which he returned for touchdowns. And Derrick Brokks had one, which he returned for a touchdown. Tampa Bay had as many defensive points as Oakland had offensive points. I must congratulate them, the Buccaneers played like a Super Bowl winner should play. Good job Bucs!

A Tampa defender, but the name escapes me...he had 2 picks There were two Bucs with two picks. One was Dexter Jackson and the other I cant remember. I think Derrick Brooks had one. Lemme check...

You did pretty well on the score soxheads but theres no way BJ takes the mvp. Both QBs in this game were pretty awful. Like every one of Johnsons passes was a duck. Only Gannons horrible performance keeps BJ from getting the meat of my criticism. 18-34 ,215yds, 2TD, 1INT isnt that bad. not mvp, but not bad So who was the mvp? It had to be one of the defenders. Like Dexter Jackson or the other guy who had two interceptions...

I voted that Tampas D won it. That does not mean however that I dont think Gannon played awful and that he choked. Even against Tampas number one D no other QB threw five interceptions this year. So, with him leading the leagues best O he shouldnt either. Tampa played great and they deserved to win but Gannon was not there, no Raider was... And who won the mvp? My foreign exchange brother changed the channel right after it ended and I never saw it. Who was it?

You did pretty well on the score soxheads but theres no way BJ takes the mvp. Both QBs in this game were pretty awful. Like every one of Johnsons passes was a duck. Only Gannons horrible performance keeps BJ from getting the meat of my criticism.