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Which is why they will stick it out through the TDL at the very least...this is not the Indians juggernaut of the late 90s the Sox are facing off with.

This description feels almost like 2012-2016 all over again...albeit with a slightly better/bigger core group. Of course we also had prime Abreu at that time too.

That sounds both well-reasoned and practical…

Unless it's against Miguel Ascencio of the Royals.

But when? TDL? Let the full season play out? Or wait until just a 2-3 month rental next summer?

Well besides Moncada you have Grandal Hendriks Jimenez...so the real problem is are you really able to focus on a one year turnaround in 2023 like the Twins or are you pushing off the next realistic "go for it" run back to 2024-26? How do you realistically compete with such a massive catching hole? Eventually you're then running into TA's walk year in 2024.

Rock and a hard place with Giolito and Lynn. Hold onto them and risk getting nothing immediate back that would extend the contention window...unless they continued to chase (with diminishing returns) more fast moving/high volatility collegiate relievers like Crochet or UT's Joyce. No interest in extending Kopech instead of Cease? Another quandary.

The problem is that Cease and Kopech are already high risk guys and the main projected rotation replacement Vera profiles similarly. At the very least, they need to acquire a reliable Manaea type because the upper minors depth chart despite Davis Martin looks pretty barren. (I'm sure someone will soon bring up Justin Verlander, who increasingly seems more like a once every 15-20 years anomaly. John Danks' name inevitably will arise, as well.)

If they do keep Musgrove, that will be the fifth contract larger than Grandal's four year deal. Pretty impressive for the 29th media market in the US. 3rd or 4th in MLB attendance over the past two seasons. https://www.sportsbusinessjournal.com/Daily/Issues/2022/03/11/Facilities/Tailgate-Park.aspx Cubs' like neighborhood development project.

They're going to turn him around like Madison Bumgarner this season...

Fine, trade for Drury. .821 OPS, can play 3B, 2B, 1B. Problem temporarily solved for 2022. Except for the LH bat, perhaps Benintendi or Josh Bell.

Jose Berrios 7 years, $131 million, just turned 28 Joe Musgrove, will turn 30 this December as he becomes a FA The reason why it's an interesting comparison is the age difference of roughly 1 1/2 years in favor of Lucas. Lucas Frost Giolito (born July 14, 1994) is an American professional baseball pitcher for the Chicago White Sox of Major League Baseball (MLB). Both pitchers have turned down their current team's extension attempts, Musgrove originally for 8 years/$88 million. Flatly declined with no counteroffer. We all know about the Gio's situation, down to the arbitration/mediation tussle over mere thousands. With Musgrove one of the current Cy Young favorites (and the team unlikely to pursue Manaea or Clevinger despite massive prospect costs to acquire the latter) and now just four months from FA, numbers being bandied about are ranging from 4 years and $120 million all the way up to 8 years and $180 million, which seems insane given his age and recent workload. That said, he's a better pitcher than Robbie Ray IMO and SD is his hometown. (Note: in addition to those three pitchers, Wil Myers is finally off the books and Hosmer will decrease from $21 to $13 million in the unlikely case he exercises his player option for a 38% salary cut after they tried to trade him two consecutive years.) https://www.gaslampball.com/2022/6/4/23154528/padres-extend-joe-musgrove How much would/could/should the White Sox offer Musgrove? Out of our price range completely? How much (if anything) would you offer Giolito as an extension, as of today? Who would you get then to REPLACE Giolito and/or Lynn to keep the window open beyond 2023 (see all the options below)? Rodon (haha), Bauer (haha squared), deGrom (opt-out guys) Kyle Gibson, Drew Smyly, Jameson Taillon, Wacha, Wainright (TLR Target #1) 25. LHP Andrew Heaney (age 30) injury history 22. RHP Mike Clevinger (age 31) injury history 16. RHP Zach Eflin (age 28) would he really move the needle for the amount of money he will likely get? 11, RHP Chris Bassitt (age 33) that's not going to happen 10. RHP Nathan Eovaldi (age 32) injury history, too much like Cease/Kopech? 9. LHP Clayton Kershaw (age 34) highly unlikely 7. LHP Sean Manaea (age 30) now four years removed from TJ surgery, Sox could use a LHP in rotation again 6. RHP Noah Syndergaard (age 29) injury history 3. RHP Joe Musgrove (will be age 30), see above https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2955719-ranking-the-top-25-mlb-players-of-upcoming-2022-23-free-agent-class OR should they spend all their money going after Judge or Trea Turner (2B/SS)??? Feels much more likely: Josh Bell, Benintendi, Joey Gallo, Willson Contreras if Grandal doesn't recover, MIchael Conforto

When’s the last time the Sox jumped a position prospect directly from AA to the bigs? They didn’t do it with Robert or Madrigal, or Vaughn. Doubt they start with Sosa before at least looking to go the trade route.

This is the same argument as Chapman in 2016. Cubs or Red Sox fans will argue to the end those two players were absolutely critical. And, for that reason, those trades will never be perceived as losses for those respective franchises. That said, the Sale contract signed with Boston has become a bit of an albatross.

That's a great workout OST.

Maybe they stick with Harrison/Leury at second after the disaster last year with Hernandez...but a lefty like Benintendi or Naquin or any of the names listed above wouldn't break the already limited prospect bank. I will just assume Benintendi to SD until he ends up elsewhere.

Jesus, Hader going for 40 unscored upon appearances in a row. Must be nice.

You've gone all Parkman recently.

Harper just hit a grand slam to tie the Angels Bot 8, who could go on to lose 11 in a row. Crazy season.

Please never play Grandal at 1B again.

4-2 season series win against Rays.

Bichette had a chance for walk off no dice 8-6 Twins.

Zunino 1/7 six stayed in the park against Liam.

Surprised Leury not PHing lol. TLR doesn't do that with three Sw/Lefties available off bench.

Twins trying to blow 8-3 lead...8-6 after that darned Espinal strikes again. Graveman has been by and large pretty darned good...the one solid Hahn move this offseason. Bottom 3 for Rays against Hendriks with Mejia only hitter on bench over .200.