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What are their commitments to Anderson, McCarthy, Ryu and Kazmir after this year? Logically, they need to improve their offense more than their pitching. We'd be better off trading them Robertson and/or Nate Jones, as bullpen will be their second biggest need.

QUOTE (soxforlife05 @ Oct 22, 2016 -> 11:11 PM) The bullpen was lucky for sure. A lot of retread vets had great years like Dye and Everett as well. I never wanted Ozzie gone. Sure, Politte didn's sustain his success. But Cotts has had a long career, Marte was one the best lefty set-up guys in the league until 2015, Hermanson was originally a very high draft pick of the Expos, Jenks always had a ton of talent...Vizcaino and ElDuque were the very back end that year. They started with Takatsu before his one act frisbee stopped collecting gongs.

it's bad enough there wasn't a single Sox team in the playoffs while he was president, but now lots of idiots on the internet are arguing he's a Cubs' fan ugh...it's like the Sox don't even exist, and then all the politicians like HRC and Emmanuel will be fighting to claim to be the biggest fans too all that's missing is the obligatory Steve Perry, John Cusack, Eddie Vedder and Bill Murray appearances go Indians!...68 years and counting

QUOTE (JUSTgottaBELIEVE @ Oct 22, 2016 -> 10:29 PM) But much of the Sox current core has been through development. Sale, Q, Rodon, Anderson, Eaton are all guys they have developed. The finanacial limitations imposed by JR absolutely make it more difficult for them to field a competitive team. Of course it's not impossible but it is much more difficult. Although they would never do it, signing guys like Cespedes, Fowler, and Jansen this offseason would instantly make them a contender in the AL central while maintaining payroll similar to the Cubs this season. but not sustainable Fowler and Cespedes will likely attract multi year offers, and the logic of having Jansen and Robertson and Jones and Burdi only works with a $150-175 million payroll, not $125 they're better off operating like the Marlins and waiting for a deep-pocketed investor group

let's not forget they were going to pay Tanaka and Samardzija. now we know what it is like to be Oakland A's fans, albeit with a better stadium but a lesser GM The only positive about this is tv ratings and perhaps an expansion of younger baseball fans if the cubs build a mini dynasty but how that would help the White Sox is unclear

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/don...m=.663cc5375b1b George Will on Trump and GOPers who supported/enabled him. The line that stuck with me was the one about divorcing first wife Ivana because her breast implants felt wrong to him...when there's a 99.8% likelihood he was the one who pushed her into having plastic surgery in the first place.

QUOTE (hi8is @ Oct 22, 2016 -> 02:29 PM) You're right, exotic parrots are deplorable... I recant and apologize profusely. Directed at the post you were responding to. Should have been clearer.

Not sure how much of it is the current political climate...the Cubs' ascent...or the general malaise and lack of civility in internet message board discourse, but this seems like it's going to be more and more common going forward.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/donald-trumps-fi...-192113945.html Donald Trump's fine art of losing

QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ Oct 13, 2016 -> 10:09 AM) I don't get what point you're trying to make. Suicide Squad easily crosses a billion dollars if it was in China. My point was it is the biggest hit of the summer, not in terms of dollar but in longevity and it's still playing in theaters. I wouldn't say that Deadpool is better than SS or that SS is better than Deadpool, I have similar opinions on both films. There's been a dearth of decent movies the last two months. Sully, Magnificent Seven, Deepwater Horizon and this weekend's Jack Reacher are some of the few I can even recall. Deadpool is simply much more entertaining. I don't think many will care to watch SS again...unless they are fanboys and girls of Margot Robbie.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Oct 20, 2016 -> 03:40 PM) The one thing Ill give Wallace credit for was that he realized Trump was full of it early on. There was a point in the debate where Wallace made a decision that he wasnt going to crush Trump because that wasnt his job. I think he could have tried to pin Trump down on answering questions ie boots on the ground in Syria, but at that point Wallace realized that there is no point in pinning Trump down, because in a day, week, month he will say that never happened (even if you read a quote verbatim.) The good news is, I think that most of America saw Trump for the fraud he is. Push too hard, he gets to claim bias/unfair (despite FOX) and turn back to rigged election conspiracy theory land. Trump was left out in the open water without a life preserver. Burying him only would have made Wallace the story. As it stands, his superior moderating compared to others and Trump's refusal to accept the results were the two themes that swamped all others.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Oct 20, 2016 -> 03:26 PM) Even if SA gave the money to the Clinton foundation, Hillary isnt on the board of directors at this time. https://www.clintonfoundation.org/about/board-directors Im not sure if you can legally give back a donation, but lets just assume it can be done, it would be up to the board of the Clinton Foundation to make that decision according to the by laws of the Clinton Foundation. It seems that Trump doesnt fundamentally understand how a 501c3 works. Because the board would have a fiduciary duty to the charity, and im not sure how you would argue that it is in the best interest of the charity to give back $25mil for the sake of helping Hilllary become President. In fact the more I think about it, it would actually raise more red flags if a charity (with no connection to Hillary) gave back money, in an attempt to help Hillary. Because how would giving back the money help the 501c3's charitable purpose? Worst case scenario, they should donate/reroute it to the Gates Foundation or the UN/Millenium Project with Dr. Jeffrey Sachs. Both of those charities overlap a lot in their African continent initiatives. Nobody should complain about that outcome

Mazara and Profar were arguably their two worst offensive players, after Moreland and Fielder. You have a healthy Choo, two superior catchers in Chirinos and Lucroy, Beltre, Darvish and numerous pitchers back, Odor and then Andrus had a really good season as well. Desmond faded in the second half...along with Profar and Mazara, but they also have the advantage of a huge tv contract to pad the payroll down there. They also are saving a ton of money that looked like a sunk cost with the Fielder insurance settlement. When you've got Darvish/Hamels and that bullpen, you've always got a chance.

Winning elections is about articulating a better vision for the future, especially if you're challenging incumbents essentially. Trump's only consistent proposals have been building a wall that he can't pay for, will be totally ineffective and sends exactly the wrong message about what we stand for as a country...at a time when we actually need to be recruiting and competing for the best immigrants to fill the gap in STEM areas for high tech companies. So that idiotic plan, tax cuts for the rich and corporations and finally constantly undermining our NATO allies while cozying up to the Russians. Brilliant ideas that surely will work out well. Apparently nobody was alive around here when Lee Atwater was using his bag of tricks (Willie Horton/Dukakis) or the Bush campaign claiming McCain had an illegitimate African American child in South Carolina. What I find most amusing is that some of those who want to see more positivity about the White Sox have been consistently complaining about the unfairness of the Clinton campaign. How about instead of only proving the negative, they try another tact? If you can spin that the glass is half full with the White Sox, why can't the same be said of this election? And let's be honest. Bernie Sanders had about a 1/20 chance of overseeing significant banking reform as president, and a zero percent shot at universal free tuition. Zero interest in foreign policy, much like Trump. He never had a realistic chance of beating Clinton. The only reason he did is because he wasn't taken seriously as a threat, just like Trump on the GOP side and similar to how they let Obama get all the early traction in Iowa and South Carolina in 2008.

QUOTE (Dunt @ Oct 20, 2016 -> 02:10 PM) I've been definitely thinking the same. If you look at who made the playoffs this year, who is a shoe in to make it again next year? Red Sox? Probably, deep system and tons of talent under control Indians? They'll be tough with Carrasco, Brantley, Salazar, and Gomes back Rangers? Would be lucky to be a .500 team next year, window is closing Blue Jays? Bautista and Encarnacion are FAs, they'll take a step back Orioles? Their window is almost shut Houston will probably be pretty good next year, Detroit is cutting money, Royals are cutting money and probably trading Davis, Mariners do anything for you? Angels suck... Who says the Sox couldn't be a playoff team with a few smart moves? Why would the Rangers window be closing? They were without Darvish, Choo and half their pitching staff for most of the year. Their offense isn't going anywhere. It should actually improve without Moreland and Fielder. Beltre will be a year older, but Odor, Mazara and Profar all made big jumps forward this year. The Yankees should carry over their positive momentum as well. The Royals won't be worse unless they deal Cain/Hosmer/Moustakas/Duffy. They're also freeing up salary with Volquez and Morales likely departing. If they can get a return similar to Miller/Giles/Kimbrel for Davis, they'll bring back Holland on an incentives-based deal. Soria can't be any worse. Same with Gordon. Otherwise, they hold and try to compete for one last year through the deadline.

Meghan McCain has an opinion on it? The Trump Show is ending. Sad! https://www.yahoo.com/news/the-trump-show-i...-134109964.html

Bigly Nasty.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Oct 19, 2016 -> 10:32 PM) Damn...we could have had Francona. Greg was beating the drum, so he was right on that one. Then again, Francona also had a Sox history and would have been the choice of about 85-90% in 2012. If we were actually winning to pay him a Top 5ish salary, that is.

How are you going to get Ryan through the primaries in 2020 without that 40% of the Republican base that supported Trump consistently throughout turning on him? What's more likely to happen is another Trump-ish demagogue will fill that vacuum, and the other candidates will split the votes into too many pieces of pie to form a winning coalition. How can you motivate the moderate/centrist wing of the GOP (see Colin Powell/Kasich this electoral season) to get excited enough to turn out when time and time again it has been the most radicalized wings of both parties who show up in January through April??

That all fell apart pretty quickly. Seemed the Dodgers needed to trim the lead to at least 5-3 or 5-4 there. Momentum shift.

Can't get the feed from here in China to not jump...so this thread has at least been amusing to read, more entertaining at least than the Cubs' boxscore.

Bill Plunkett@billplunkettocr Not sure what they saw/didn't see in NY. But around 54,000 of us in LA thought we saw Gonzalez get his hand on plate before tag applied.

First, Trump. Now the pro-Cubs/t.v. ratings/series must go seven conspiracy. Jesse Rogers@ESPNChiCubs After further review, MLB believes a longer series would be more beneficial for the popularity of the sport. The call stands.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/chica...1019-story.html In something of a non-shocker, Chris Sale's father is voting for Trump. Automatic win!

Otoh, the Marlins have two more World Series trophies than the Tigers in the past twenty years despite those massive Detroit payrolls...would they rather have a World Series win or Hall of Famer in Cabrera?