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QUOTE (daggins @ Jun 19, 2015 -> 08:40 PM) Yeah, fire Robin, fire Steverson, fire Hahn and buy out JR. Let Kenny walk to Toronto, and put Buddy Bell on a boat to China. You might see some changes, or you might not. Hey, we don't want him here in China, either. The game will never develop properly if he's in charge of it.

He had a high change-up to drive there. Sigh. And the long wandering in the desert continues.

Cabrera better hit a walk off...or he's going to leave the field to a cascade of boos.

Was Ozzie booed like that at home near the end of the 2011 season? Sad state of affairs. Feel bad for Sale and Ventura.

QUOTE (whitesoxfan99 @ Jun 19, 2015 -> 08:21 PM) There was no reason to pull Sale tonight. Blow this team up including the coaching staff. 111 pitches....he could have gone another inning, but then you don't have one of the highest paid closers in baseball for nothing. Robertson's cutter is very flat now, no depth...and he doesn't trust the knuckle curve as much for his strikeout pitch. 4 blown saves now...on a pace for 9-10. Don't think we'll be trading him, either.

Who predicted a 2-1 loss at the beginning of this thread?

Alberto, Odor, Profar....the Rangers can really develop infielders.

There's a surprise. Can't put the Rangers away...setting up some drama.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 19, 2015 -> 07:40 PM) Pitchers in MLB history who have struck out 12 batters or more in 5 straight games: Pedro Martinez Randy Johnson As of right now that is all. Chris is 1 strikeout away. What about 10+ for six? Who has done that? Sanchez up to .147.

QUOTE (Soxfest @ Jun 19, 2015 -> 07:38 PM) 5 runs for Papa Johns that promo will not be used ever. Haha, for the Rangers half off the next day if they score SEVEN.

Gallo taken to school tonight....so far.

That was fast...offense not helping much to give Chris a much-deserved rest.

Nice day for Flowers' Followers. Started a foundation with with his wife (Flow's Buds), donated $20,000 and will donate $1,000 for each Sox win. It's for a group home for kids...

QUOTE (oldsox @ Jun 19, 2015 -> 07:16 PM) Then you lose your draft picks and farm system gets worse. Plus, they will overpay for whomever they get. Start with the farm. They'll be getting top draft choices for the next few years. Get some Cubans. Get some guys who can run and play defense. Get lucky. Cespedes, Upton, Heyward, Chris Davis, Zobrist and Alex Gordon. Zobrist will be 35 next season. Davis could be like Quentin in 2008 or garbage. Will Lillian be satisfied with him? Probably not. You've got lots of expensive players there...that would require making Avi a DH because his positives are negated defensively but he might not hit enough to hold down DH (which obviously means dumping LaRoche as well). They might be better off seeing how much money the Red Sox would include with Hanley Ramirez and put him back at 3b. Once again, that makes you older and adds more payroll and so-so (at best) defense. No easy solutions.

If it wasn't for bad luck, the Sox would have no luck at all. And how is Adam Rosales 7/16 against Sale with 3 homers? Thats like Brian Anderson vs. Felix Hernandez. White Sox defense an ever-present threat to Sale..more than the Rangers.

Hernan Perez is worse than Sanchez. So there's that. Of course, he's already on his second organization this year.

One of the arguments used is always that if you turn the Swastika around it becomes the symbol for Buddhism, considered the most peaceful religion in the world by many. Let's just put it this way...maybe we should go back to the original flag of the 13 colonies or the Don't Tread on Me version when we have a meeting with the British PM, at the U.N. Or G-7/8. Think they wouldn't be offended? Then imagine being an African-American and seeing that flag flying over the statehouse or all over the infield at a Nascar race. Would you trust those elected officials?

http://cjonline.com/sports/2015-05-18/mike...s-beating-shift The George Brett situation also resulted because everyone knew when he came in that he was only going to be "hands on" for 4-8 weeks and then he was going to fade back from that day-to-day commitment. Royals' hitters started to believe in the results when the wins and stats started to come with all the hard work they were putting in...no matter how good the coaching or teaching, it's very hard to overcome the hestitation players feel when their organization hasn't been a championship contender for thirty years. Sveum has gotten guys like Moustakas, Cain and Hosmer to listen...and they've all improved as a result compared to where they were 2-3 years ago as players. Why we failed to help similar guys like Quentin, Beckham or Viciedo nobody knows for sure. Maybe they were lacking in talent...willingness to change...or changed too much and overthought things and lost confidence. Hard to say. Everyone at one point believed in their talent level, though. Maybe all of the defensive position changes bothered them. Injuries/health got to Carlos. Say what you like about Semien defensively, this season he hit for a stretch in a pitcher-friendly stadium at a much higher level than with the White Sox. Same with Phegley, as well.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 19, 2015 -> 03:18 PM) I find it difficult to say the Bulls are run differently. John Paxson and Gar Forman seemingly have jobs that are as isolated from performance evaluations as Kenny Williams and Rick Hahn. They were able to replace the coach, but the coach they replaced was someone from outside the organization who they didn't trust in the first place. When personality conflicts arose, the people who won were the internal, organizational people. When that conflict arose, the person brought in from the outside was replaced...with a former player for the team who has a good working relationship with the team. Sounds like they're both run quite similarly to me. Yes, but it's also not possible to imagine the White Sox offering a top 3-5 in the game salary to a hot/inexperienced managerial candidate. When is the last time a White Sox manager was even paid in the Top 10-15 in the majors? We were, on the other hand, willing to pay Hahn the highest assistant GM salary, Cooper the highest pitching coach salary, etc. Seems we kind of have things backwards...creating too many cooks and not enough chefs, with KW and Hahn both in ambiguous situations, and Cooper feeling he has more power and protection than any pitching coach in the game. From listening to his interviews and the mentality in which he addresses the fans, sometimes you have to wonder if they created a monster in the process of being so loyal for all those 27 or 28 years.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2015/06/...KhLJ/story.html Who gets the axe first, Ventura or Farrell? Eaton's coming close, but nothing like Sandoval...interestingly, the Boston problem is perceived to be the veterans, and it feels like it could equally apply to Cabrera, Samardzija or Bonifacio right nowin the Sox clubhouse. Everyone's kind of just going through the motions...but the season is just too long to go on like that without some blowups/frustration coming out. You can read it coming from Hahn and Ventura in the last 2-3 days as well.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2015/06...pH2M/story.html Roof's black FB "friends"

http://www.southsidesox.com/2015/6/18/8803...age-for-changes Hahn. "We are all in this together. Until a player is traded or there’s been a change on the staff or in the front office or with an advanced scout or whatever, we are all in this 100 percent together. We are all accountable together and we are all doing everything in our energy and efforts to put ourselves in the best position to win. Should we get to the point where any of that changes, you’ll know and we’ll explain why."

Lewis since 2012 against the Sox. 4-0, 27.3 ip, 25 hits, 5 er, 3 bb, 24 k's, 1.65 era

QUOTE (oldsox @ Jun 19, 2015 -> 06:05 AM) Plus the #9 pick if Fulmer says NO to Sox below-slot offer. They have absolutely nothing to gain by doing that...all it will do is push the timeframe for competing again back another year.

“That’s just bad,” Ventura said. “I’m tired of talking about it. They know it. We work it all of spring training — you’ve probably seen it a few hundred times that we work on it. I’m getting tired of talking about it because that’s just bad.” “They need to catch it — that’s what they need to do,” Ventura said. Eaton ranks 25th out of 25 qualified center fielders with minus-9 Defensive Runs Saved while Ramirez is 25th of 27 shortstops, with minus-7. “You guys ask the questions when it’s not going well,” Eaton said. “Like I said, it didn’t hurt. It was a tough play, but it was glaring because it’s, like I said, we’re not playing well. But if we would have won the game 5-2 it probably wouldn’t even have been a blip on your radar. Like I said, kind of a tough play but it’s probably somewhere where I need to take charge as a center field and call him off, but it’s a good thing it didn’t hurt us in the end.” http://www.csnchicago.com/white-sox/robin-...&ocid=yahoo Not sure that's the best attitude to have about fixing mistakes...well, the run DIDN'T score so it's not a big deal...or, if we had won, it's STILL not a big deal. How does that solve the problem? Just the use of PROBABLY is annoying to read...you're either in charge of the outfield or you're not. "I have to take charge...(or)...Everyone knows I'm in charge of the outfield" not "probably somewhere where I need (not have to)..." SIGH.