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QUOTE (ron883 @ Jun 18, 2015 -> 11:14 PM) Dump Robertson. Dump LaRoche. Dump Shark (hopefully his value raises by the deadline...) Hopefully Melky can somehow go on a hot streak and not be f***ing garbage still at the deadline. spend big on July 2nd prospects. This team needs a couple years of growth. Hopefully one of Fulmer or Adams can contribute in two years. Anderson will be ready by then. Just firesale and hope for the best in two years. Not sure what else to do. By spending big on July 2nd prospects, you do realize there are 29 other teams in on the same players? Unless you want to go crazy and start giving Yoan Moncada contracts out to Eddy Julio Ramirez and Alvares...which would mean we would pay huge tax penalties and be very limited in our next signing period. For Robertson and LaRoche, you're not going to receive anything even remotely resembling Eaton and Avi/Montas. Even if Anderson and Adams were ready for 2017 and Fulmer in the 2nd half of 2016, you're talking about 2018 until they're legitimately ready to compete again...basically that would mean a rebuilding period of SEVEN years to get back to competitiveness (which we've heard over and over again the fanbase can't or won't put up with, especially when the Cubs are reaping the benefits of patience simultaneously.) You have to make some changes in the coaching staff before you just jettison the entire team and give up on them ever being a productive unit together...you've also got to limit the trades to Samardzija, Ramirez, Putnam/Petricka/Duke, and then, determining how things go over the next 5-6 weeks, you listen on Quintana but morely likely you table that trade until the off-season when you have a whole new coaching staff in place. Let the new manager and Hahn together decide what he wants to do with Quintana, Robertson and LaRoche.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 18, 2015 -> 10:38 PM) Francona with awesome managing tonight. He used his closer in the 5th inning with bases loaded after a rain delay. Allen retired Montero, and the Indians bullpen held the Cubs scoreless rest of way. Reminiscent of the days when Zumaya was in his prime with the Tigers...before all the injuries destroyed his career.

of leadership in that clubhouse..." (You have to watch the video, which is 5-6 minutes long) This is the same exact debate we've been having over the last week (and last couple of years) about Ventura. It encapsulates pretty much all of the different viewpoints, with Kaplan playing "Devil's Advocate" with the rest of the panel at Sports Talk Live. Did Rick Hahn oversell this team being competitive? Should we blame him for being too optimistic? Lots of words bandied about like "focus" and "complacency." Gardenhire's name is proffered as a possible solution in terms of cleaning things up on the field of play. http://www.csnchicago.com/white-sox/white-...reak-hits-seven

Johnson said the survivor told her the gunman, addressing her son, said, "You all rape women and you're taking over our country." The gunman added, “I have to do what I have to do," Johnson said, quoting the survivor. The survivor said it wasn't until the end of Bible study when the suspect just started shooting, according to Johnson. The survivor said the suspect loaded his gun about five times. The survivor, who is elderly, who spoke with Johnson and her 5-year-old granddaughter are two of the three people who survived the shooting. According to Johnson, when the gunman saw the elderly woman was alive, he asked her, "Did I shoot you?" When the elderly woman said "No," the gunman said, "Good, because I need someone to survive," and said he was going to shoot himself, the survivor told Johnson. "And you'll be the only survivor." https://gma.yahoo.com/charleston-shooting-g...topstories.html

http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/18/politics/oba...ting/index.html Here comes the gun control argument again...

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/inside_out_2015/ Who are the two idiots out of 135 who gave this movie a low rating? Has anyone ever heard of Ben Sachs from Chicago Reader? http://www.chicagoreader.com/chicago/insid...nt?oid=18038469 June 18, 2015 For all its clever touches, the personified emotions plot still feels like a story the school psychologist would've used to teach kids about their feelings. It feels simultaneously infantilized and aimed over kids' heads. Full Review | Original Score: C+ Vincent Mancini from FILM DRUNK

QUOTE (bmags @ Jun 18, 2015 -> 09:31 PM) Dark times. So hard reading about baseballs offensive renessaince knowing this team is stuck in Stone Age. Don't you meaning pitching, speed, bullpen specialist, defense, advanced statistical metrics and shifts-based renaissance?

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jun 18, 2015 -> 09:20 PM) Isn't that NOesi? Well, the odds are 50/50, same as with Drabeck. Any other team could end up going after him, but it's also possible he accepts the assignment. If I were him, though, I'd probably be looking for another organization/better opportunity.

QUOTE (Soxfest @ Jun 18, 2015 -> 09:16 PM) Pirates scored 8 runs in 4 wins coming in not exactly a tear. Yes, but a winning streak nonetheless (and the growing confidence that goes with that)...and, if you look at their overall offensive stats over the last month, every aspect of their team is on an upwards trend.

QUOTE (Lemon_44 @ Jun 18, 2015 -> 08:43 PM) I know you don't think any coach could do any better than what RV has been doing and are perfectly happy with how he is handling things. That's fine if that's your opinion. That doesn't make mine, or anyone else's opinion less valid. What does Gentry's record as HC have to do with anything? Having been a HC for many years, he can offer insight to Kerr. I don't see how it's that tough to see where experience can help out. And nowhere did I say the won because of Gentry, just that he was part of a very successful year one staff that won it all with almost the same roster. Coaching staffs can and do make a difference. As for OG, there are examples to offset any explanations. Nothing is 100% and I think an experienced bench coach would have been good for RV. The funny thing is they "sold" Parent as being experienced, but he really needed someone like a Don Zimmer, or Joe Torre always had Stottlemyre to bounce everything off on in NY...there was a trust and respect there. I'm not sure it's quite the same dynamic with the White Sox dugout. And, we're now a full THREE games behind the Indians for last place in the AL Central. Not how they drew it up. On the plus side, we're only 1/2 game ahead (or behind, depending on how you look at it) the 4th pick in next June's draft. And just one game from 3rd if Oakland keeps improving. Biggest problem is chasing down the Brewers and Phillies.

The Pirates were on a tear coming into this series...but it's not like we did ourselves any favors defensively today. 3 hits isn't going to win many games, either. Basically, they play the game unselfishly, they have very solid defense and, like the Twins from 2002-2009, they let their opponents beat themselves. (The difference is these days, we can't honestly say we have more talent on our roster compared to other teams.)

Well, at least we're being efficient, 2 runs scored on 3 hits vs. 3 on 13 hits. So there's that.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 18, 2015 -> 08:24 PM) Soto is getting a lot more pt of late Tucker has been raking, and Domingo Santana just hit his first homer. Great play by Beckham, but we don't have Konerko over there anymore to save the infielders. Duke in now.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 18, 2015 -> 08:23 PM) It is the CF's ball Eaton needs to quit being polite and be a ball hog. Alexei did act like he was going to make a play on it, but it still is Eaton's job to call him off. I suspect simce Alexei sort of showed him up, that won't be an issue anymore. After 1 1/2 seasons together, they should be able to communicate out there a lot better with each other than what we just witnessed. Alexei needs to realize more quickly that the ball's going to be a difficult play for him and stop backpedaling only to bail out when it's too late for Eaton...the body language there from both players was telling, hands on their hips, each blaming the other. Needless to say, that shouldn't be happening.

Farmer called that one. Said that Cole was perturbed by the ball/strike calls, lack of command and getting frustrated with the ump.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 18, 2015 -> 08:13 PM) I know pilimg on Alexei is fun, but anyone who has ever played even little league knows that was Eaton's play. He can't assume Alexei is goimg to make the play. Run to it and call everyome off. Farmer and DJ disagree with you. But they have an anti-Alexei agenda, I guess.

Keystone Cops. Those are supposedly our two best defenders. That one is 100% on Ramirez...you can't act like you're going to make the play and then back off at the very last second when it's too late. Of course, the CF should make the play coming in....but Ramirez was back pedaling so far out into the OF, he fooled everyone into thinking he was going to take it. So 80% Ramirez's fault, 20% Eaton's. Eaton, of course, doesn't come in nearly as well on balls as he does going back to the wall, that's another aspect of it.

Speaking of Noesi/Carroll types...thanks to the facilitation of Lilian, Grady Sizemore just signed with the first-place Tampa Bay Rays. He has more lives than a cat. Pretty sure it's a minor league deal, though.

Somehow I have a feeling Samardzija won't be winning a Gold Glove this season.

If Schwarber dropped a lot of weight, you could imagine him playing LF (right is much tricker in Wrigley) as long as they had plus defenders in CF and RF...but it's a bit of a stretch. Then again, if you've watched guys like Lonnie Smith, Pete Incaviglia and Kevin Reimer play LF, anything is possible.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 18, 2015 -> 07:21 PM) Castellanos is still a negative defender and offensive player. Sorry. Missing the point, which is why the White Sox can't help their players improve defensively at either the minor or major league level? As you've pointed out over 100 times now, look at how many errors Marcus Semien has...

Lots of cheers of appreciation for McCutcheon's catch, or we're in danger of having more Pirates' fans than Sox fans with how well they're playing. I can understand more Cardinals or Tigers fans, but a loud pro-Pirate noise at USCF? At any rate, everyone did their job this time, LaRoche and Cabrera as well...

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 18, 2015 -> 07:14 PM) All these Cubs hitters are considered top 20 prospects when they get promoted. When is last time Sox had someone like that? Borchard might have been in his first or second year before they discovered all of his flaws and everyone was more fixated on this signing bonus. Back then all the hype was around Dunn, Borchard and Kearns hitting-wise. Beckham was Top 50 for sure but I don't remember Top 20.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 18, 2015 -> 07:10 PM) On the offensive end, there is an insane talent gap between the Sox and Cubs. Only Avi would be able to start for them this year. Are you starting him over Coghlan, Fowler or Soler? Fowler's slowed down to the point where there's at least a debate between him and Eaton now.

The White Sox also have to be last in the majors in terms of number of games they've taken the lead first... I can't remember now if it was 2005 or 2006, but we had that crazy stretch where we scored first 30+ games in a row. Those were the days.