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QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 23, 2012 -> 07:56 PM) I wonder what we could get for Humber and Nathan Jones....would that get us Volquez? I think we have to keep Floyd around at the point and hope to get him straightened out. Why would they want to do that? Way too much respect to Mauer there. Willingham the White Sox MVP tonight.

It's suicide to let Liriano get into a rhythm. Have to knock him out early.

QUOTE (Brian @ Jul 23, 2012 -> 07:50 PM) Who is our long man with Axe sent down? Santiago, seemingly. But not tonight, he pitched 3+ yesterday.

It's pretty bad when DJ and Farmer have to motivate Gavin and make him believe he has a great curveball... Ugh. DJ told him he has the best curveball he's seen (when it's one) after Daryll Kile.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 23, 2012 -> 07:39 PM) Great to see PK give this team a lift! It's not lasting for long.

We score runs and give them right back. Jesus.

Why the HELL was Beckham covering there with Butera batting? Butera's a slap hitter who very rarely pulls the ball. The odds of him pulling it on the ground are about 10%. Alexei should have had that cover and the inning's over.

Is Konerko back? That's encouraging. Now Gavin, whatever you do, you can't give up the lead in the top of the 2nd. First homer since June 18th and 29th (Yankees/Cubs). Around 70 at-bats. Balt 1, CLE 2, top of the 7th

Is Konerko back? That's encouraging. Now Gavin, whatever you do, you can't give up the lead in the top of the 2nd.

Of course. That's the way things are going. Dunn actually goes to the opposite side....luckily he didn't drop it or it would have ended up a double or triple play.

Can Dunn actually make a productive out and move the runners?

DeAza 16/24. Liriano has 25 strikeouts in his last 2 games, against the A's and Orioles. He actually lost to the A's despite recording 15 K's. 10 more K's than IP, 15 less hits.

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Jul 23, 2012 -> 07:23 PM) wasn't he still on the dl yesterday? He wasn't eligible to come off the DL until today, fwiw.

That's something the White Sox offense would manage...no wonder they're 15 games under .500. Morneau out of the line-up taking care of a personal/family problem.

Well, that's huge. Assuming we can actually score a run or two against Liriano. Weird to see a late July game between BALT and CLE and there's no clear direction who to cheer for in the match-up.

LOL at Floyd. Sure, let's trade Viciedo away. Great idea at this point. Nobody saw this one coming so far. Where's Caesar/mcgrad?

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Jul 23, 2012 -> 06:52 PM) If they were willing to replace Viciedo with Ichiro, it pretty much tells me they're going to deal Viciedo for a SP. I'd rather have Pierre than Ichiro, considering Suzuki's salary they would have been on the hook for... 12:$17M$25M ($5M annually) deferred at 5.5% interest, reducing deal’s average annual value to $16.1M (deferred money to be paid in annual installments Jan. 30 beginning year after his retirement) limited no-trade clause allowing Ichiro to specify 10 clubs to which he may not be traded without his consent performance and award bonuses, including $50,000 for All Star selection interpreter, trainer, transportation for Spring Training & regular season 4 annual round-trip airline tickets from Seattle to Japan housing allowance: $32,000 in 2008, $33,000 in 2009, $34,000 in 2010, $35,000 in 2011, $36,000 in 2012

When they got Cabrera, Andruw Miller didn't turn out to be anything like advertised. And it took Maybin four or five years and a change of scenery to finally become a really solid everyday player. Castellanos and the RF they just promoted to AA ("the next Miguel Cabrera") are the two guys they didn't want to part with, and they accomplished the improvement of their team without parting with either one. Not only that, they somehow qualified for a compensation pick (after the 2nd round) and were able to throw that into the package...whereas the Rays didn't even get one at all.

QUOTE (DirtySox @ Jul 23, 2012 -> 06:24 PM) Good for Seattle. They aren't obligated to offer a good will contract to a player whose good playing days are very much past. Hope we aren't saying that about Konerko in 14 months.

http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/pro...=Leyson-Septimo And Septimo never pitched in the majors before this season. If we were likelier to lose anyone, it would be Veal, because he already pitched for the Pirates in 2009, I think.

Is there anyone confident enough in the Sox winning to bet money on the game tonight? That would take some major cojones, $1000 on the Sox to beat Liriano. What are the odds, just curious... Don't really follow baseball gambling so much.

On the other hand, if anyone here has read the Tiger Mother/Amy Chua book, the main moral of the story is that the parenting model has to be something of a "hybrid" between Eastern and Western modes. In the book, she's (the mother) pushed the youngest daughter so hard in piano (the older daughter was forced to learn the violin, or maybe I have it the other way around) that she finally cracks under the pressure as a teenager and her mom relents and lets her quit playing and start tennis instead, after she's invested 10-12 years and tens of thousands of dollars on lessons and experts and tutors in an effort to make her a prodigy. There's a much higher suicide rate in Asian countries because of all the burden and pressure of expectations from parents, especially when it's an only child. The major difference is countries like China don't allow gun possession by civilians. What happens there most often is disenfranchised men who are lacking in education go into an elementary school and stab children, or maybe there's acid attacks in Hong Kong, another example. Sarin gas in Tokyo, the AUM religious cult. The difference between pushing someone and abusing someone, is a very very fine line. Look at how kids who grew up in systems like this turned out as adults, for example, Tiger Woods, the Williams sisters or Todd Marinovich. Parents need to remember their reasons for pushing kids, and think about what's really in their best interest. Kids don't exist to make the parents look better, that's not the way it works. The other thing is that fewer and fewer kids are playing organized sports...PE budgets are being cut back or don't even exist, as well as areas like art and music. Kids are content to just play on their cell phones or laptops and hardly ever exercise anymore (the majority). If there's any one difference that always strikes me about the US vs. Asia, it's that every time I go out to eat, 60-75% of the customers are fat or obese. In Asian countries, you always never see that. If you do see someone who's overweight in middle or high school, they're teased or bullied unmercifully about it by their classmates. Is that better? Where people are blunt/honest and say whatever they think or feel instead of holding things back for fear of hurting someone's feelings? Who knows? It's a question I still haven't found the answer to as a teacher trained in the political correctness of the "West" but sometimes horrified by the behavior of parents in the "East."

For those wanting to get rid of Morel, what is your plan for 3B next year? Please tell me it's not Saladino or Tyler Kuhn. Do you really think JR's going to shell out $12 or 13 million for YOUK if we don't make the playoffs?

QUOTE (flavum @ Jul 23, 2012 -> 01:33 PM) 39-28 would get the sox to 89 wins, which historically is the average 2nd wildcard number. What these teams would have to do to get to 89: Bal 51-44 (38-29) Oak 51-44 (38-29) Sox 50-45 (39-28) TB 49-47 (40-26) Tor 48-47 (41-26) Bos 48-48 (41-25) Cle 47-48 (42-25) I'm thinking the Angels are going to separate themselves a little, and probably get to 90-92 wins. These remaining teams...it may only take 87 or 88. Pretty amazing Oakland's in there, with all the players they've dumped like Gio. Cespedes and Reddick (especially) were huge finds, if they can keep both of them healthy for the rest of the season.

Youk pretty much equalled Brent's season stats in 2-3 weeks. Doesn't seem like Brent has the type of game suited for utility play, especially SS. Maybe he could play 2B. We can't have both Beckham AND Morel being in the bottom quintile of their positions OPS-wise. Just can't imagine that Morel would have the type of range or agility to play 2B, and SS is definitely out.