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Huff vs. Beckett, Advantage Red Sox Tigers at Rangers Twins at Angels (Santana coming off no-hitter) Daniel Hudson vs. Tim Lincecum (wonder who Hudson would rather face, our AAA line-up tonight or the Giants?)

Maybe we could reacquire Jon Garland to attempt it?

Actually pondering that I'd rather have Beckham hitting 2nd instead of 9th. Ugh. That line-up is just ugly ugly ugly.

Lillibridge doesn't hit righties well and hasn't hit period for more than a month. I don't know, but Pierre/Lillibridge/DeAza sounds even more like a AAA line-up than what we put out there last night. Rios at least had a couple of hits in the past 2 games. If he was going to be benched, it should have been 3 games ago. I mean...we're really legitimately thinking we can beat the Yankees without Konerko and with that starting outfield?

Sort of. He's choosing Rios over Lillibridge. That's it. If Konerko was able to play, we'd know the actual answer to this, because DeAza's also playing in the outfield tonight.

This is sad. We've reached the point where the best chance of regime change is taunting Ozzie's son in order to set off a string of events with his father that leads to him losing his job. It's just not the right way for him to leave the Sox, but I guess there's no other ending to this story than ugliness and recriminations. You know KW will never be able to stay quiet or take the high road. It's not in his DNA.

QUOTE (ptatc @ Aug 2, 2011 -> 12:56 PM) Enjoying watching a baseball game with my son. Teaching him to keep score. My enjoyment of baseball isn't tied to winning. Granted it's more fun if they win that day but that isn't the only reason. A day at the ballpark is better than a day almost anywhere else. Then I would take him to a minor league game. You can get to know most (well, not the first round draft picks, they've already developed an attitude) of the players personally....get autographs, catch a foul ball...the promotions and contests are fun for the kids. It's a much purer and more enjoyable form of baseball in many ways, because you see all these kids chasing the dream and even though only 3-4% are going to make it, the feeling is just completely different.

Peavy doesn't belong in the same conversation as Dunn/Rios. He's doing the best he possibly can...he could just shut it down completely and collect a salary, but he's always pushed himself harder than anyone on the Sox could push him and unfortunately that's caused him more setbacks than if they'd just taken the conservative approach from the very moment he was acquired. Zero reason he should have been pitching in 2009, that team was toast and nothing was going to turn it around...especially the way Rios was playing, and Dye fading as well.

Let's see....Konerko, Humber, Jeff Gray and probably Sergio Santos did better than expected. Maybe Crain. You can argue either way about about Alexei (his defense has definitely taken a step backwards, and hitting with RISP), AJ, Quentin and Sale. The rest of the roster has underachieved dramatically. Anyone watching or following this team all season wouldn't argue that Ozzie's done a good job. The last 3 games offer about 50 examples of poor fundamentals alone. And Ozzie wonders why they are so poor? JESUS.

And yet, for a myriad of reasons, we've never brought anything close to a superstar Hispanic player in the prime of his career to the Sox during Ozzie's reign of terror. Heck, if we just took Victor Martinez for less money than Dunn, we'd still probably be leading the AL Central.

QUOTE (flavum @ Aug 2, 2011 -> 09:31 AM) Since the All Star break of 2010, here are Alex Rios's numbers in 165 games: 143-628 (.228 avg) 25 doubles, 2 triples, 12 homers, 77 runs, 63 rbi's He could be the lone reason for Kenny Williams losing his job. But there are so many other reasons. 433 OPS on the road, 388 on turf (where he should be at his best)

Or Getz. Or Brian Anderson. Or Sean Tracey. Or Jon Rauch (although everyone around baseball says he's a prick in the clubhouse and hard to deal with).

You forgot... Why can't we ever beat AL Central opponents? 3-5 against the Royals? 7-29 against the Twins? Why does everyone get up to beat the White Sox, be we can't get motivated to face the Royals or Orioles? Bruce Chen? C'mon. I just turn off the t.v. when I see he's facing us. Mark Teahen is abysmal and sucks as a player. Juan Pierre is the 3rd best hitter on the White Sox. This team is the most frustrating White Sox team I've ever watched. Rios/Dunn/Gordon/Morel can't hit their way out of a dry as Kansas prairie paper bag with the Green Lantern's blowtorch as a bat. (oops, that's me) Ozzie will win every single NL East crown for 14 consecutive years and become the next Vice President of the U.S. He will take Marco Rubio's Senate seat after he becomes President in 2012 or 2016. We will miss Ozzie and will never ever compete again in the AL with Joey Cora and fans will be clamoring for Terry Bevington to return. JUST WIN BABY. Any move that Ozzie makes can never be second guessed if the White Sox win. Bobby Jenks is the most underappreciated closer in Sox history, at least since Roberto Hernandez. I will probably get banned if I say what I really feel. That does it, I'm quitting SoxTalk. Should have written shorter sentences. B- effort. Greg, we love you! I've been mocked more times than you around here, trust me.

And Sabathia/Peavy...just going by the names alone, well it's not Phil Humber and Nova.

"C'mon, you're better than the Gap." (funny line from Crazy, Stupid Love)

Foulke removed himself from the closer's role and was eventually ditched for 93 MPH straight as an arrow FB fireballing Billy Koch.

I just want to hear Rongey spinning any reason to go to a White Sox game for the rest of the season (well, at least until Viciedo comes back up) if we go 1-5 or 2-4 the next six games.

Mark Buehrle at $9 million? The Royals might offer him more than that. At least $11-12 million. Surely the Yankees would offer that amount over 2-3 years. Or the Red Sox. We'll see where his loyalties really lie, with the Sox/JR or the Cardinals back in Missouri on the farm with his family or elsewhere.

But not drawn and quartered....that's good. Maybe we can give him the Scarlett "A" for Alex on his White Sox jersey, since Konerko won't wear his "C" captain one. You know....I was thinking they should have Dunn, Rios and Beckham on the Dr. Phil Show with KW, Oney, Ozzie and Teahen. That would be the most anticipated and highly-rated Sox broadcast of the entire season. PROACTIV solutions would be there as the title sponsor with Jessica Simpson or someone of her ilk (NSS will respond that I should have included Bieber, Ozzie/Sharon Osbourne or Paco Martin on the panel). And exactly how many seconds would elapse before someone went after Oney with a chair? Hopefully security would let them get 2-3 good whacks in first. And then the mano-a-mano Guillen-KW bout would be the main event after the undercard.

Where did all this handjob and blowjob talk start? From Horrible Bosses?

And it's just going to be a salary dump for 2012....maybe even $1-2 million going with him. You're not going to get young Wilson Ramos or something like that....so you have another hole in the line-up for 2012 and no money to fix it with. Lucy/Flowers. Yay! That will surely inspire confidence in our pitching staff. And Buehrle would be even MORE likely to leave with AJ gone. What motivation would he possibly have to stay if he saw AJ, Quentin or Danks traded off?

http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_18591786...ce=mng_fulltext Makes you wonder how much we'll end up losing (if anything) not trading Quentin or Danks over the deadline? Thornton or Floyd, it doesn't matter as much...or Alexei Ramirez, for that matter. Oh, well. Indians 2 1/2 GB, and the Twins on the road quickly looming up behind us. http://www.startribune.com/sports/twins/blogs/126511928.html Pretty amazing the Twins are even where they're at considering everything the've gone through to get here. Span is back in CF, looks like Revere to the bench...they've considered moving Span to a corner spot, but his stronger arm is just too valuable in CF. That's Revere's biggest weakness, along with about a 600 OPS.

The "great" advantage to be gained playing Rios against three left-handed pitchers in a row. What will be really interesting is if DeAza is "benched" today after Rios has gotten hits the last couple of games.

QUOTE (hi8is @ Aug 2, 2011 -> 04:13 AM) Most of the team dropped the ball this game - just like they have all season. It's not a matter of sparing Rios - more so than it is calling out people who actually played worse, this game. This team is a flipping mess - it wouldn't surprise me if they finished 13 out and behind the twins. Oddly enough, it also wouldn't surprise me to see them do exactly what they have and continue c*c* teasing us into September to a 5 game out 3rd place finish. I'd be shocked if they won this division. Even thou they went 8 - 4 after the all-star break - I still wasn't ready to say whether or not I was still in or out. Now it's easy, I'm all out. No wonder I wanted them to sell on every bleeping player they had who held value at the break. Carlos Konerko Danks Mark Floyd Thornton Ohman Crain They should have sold em all and just sucked hardcore until the Rios and Peavy contracts came off the books. At least for those years of suck-a-tude, they'd have players in the minors getting prepared for a turn around when the books where clean again. Then sign some players and go for it. It'll take these next 3 against the Yanks and 2 of 3 subsequent losses by CLE and DET for me to have the faintest of hopes. Agreed with everything except you forgot to include the $45 million we still owe Adam Dunn. The Indians really came out to play against the Red Sox last night. It was like night and day flipping back and forth between those 2 games. Peavy...if he continues to show progress again for the rest of the season, might not even be in the category of the Dunn/Rios deals. And we don't owe him for nearly the amount of time and money as those two. You could probably add AJ to the trade list except we don't have any legit prospects behind him to take his place. Have to get them back through trades of the players you already mentioned.

http://sports.yahoo.com/video/player/news/...nDepth/26116779 If you want to laugh, just watch this Guillen interview. First, he's gushing over Derek Jeter, calling him "a God" and admiring how he "has lots of beautiful womens around him." Like that Ozzie book review series of videos...and you wonder why Alexei Ramirez didn't win the Gold Glove last season? Then he goes on to praise Jim Thome (who he didn't want to bring back to the Southside, a decision that probably cost us the division), Michael Young and Scott Rolen"s" (who would look a bit better than Morel for us at 3B at the moment). The final part was the most amusing.....about "playing the game right" and respecting baseball. He's worried about what the players all around baseball are wearing and yet he doesn't hold anyone on the White Sox accountable, EVER. Gordon and Zach Stewart, don't let your hair grow too long, just a pre-emptive warning.