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http://theghostofmoonlightgraham.wordpress...rade-alex-rios/ I think this article almost perfectly summarizes my feelings for Mr. Alex Rios. Enjoy. Interesting that the writer correctly predicted the White Sox as one of his destinations. Laughed about the Cain for Rios idea.

http://www.dailyherald.com/article/2011062...orts/706279778/ Article arguing for Dunn/Sox to use sports psychologist. Dunn expected to start on Wednesday or Thursday (via twitter). Not sure if it will be in LF/RF/1B.

"Rios don't run the bases and that's why I took him out of the game. This is not the first time it happened. I don't like the way he ran the bases. My players can be very bad .. and that's the amazing thing for everyone out there. They don't (bleeping) run the bases, they don't want to play or whatever, they're tired or just hurt, but if they don't run the bases, that reputation comes on me and I have a great reputation in this (bleeping) game to do it that way. "If they don't run the bases they're out of the game, I don't give a (bleep) if it's (Paul) Konerko or Adam Dunn or anyone. You don't play the game right, you're out of the game." Here's the FULL Ozzie quote on Rios from dailyherald.com

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 29, 2011 -> 06:47 AM) And this is the facebook quote Leggo my Eggos!!!

QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Jun 29, 2011 -> 06:47 AM) Managers are overrated huh? I wonder who it is that has been deciding to give Juan Pierre the most plate appearances on the team then? Cuz it sure as s*** ain't Kenny Williams But who would you be leading off? Ramirez, one of our better RBI guys? Alex THE LOAF Rios? Lillibridge? Mark The Human Statue Teahen? It's also on KW to give Ozzie a legit leadoff hitter. How many years since 2005 has he succeeded in doing this? He even drafted Mitchell and Walker, but they're miles away, too.

Starting in CF tonight for the White Sox in place of Rios and The Bridge.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jun 29, 2011 -> 06:40 AM) I don't care how weird that play was, Lilli got caught flat-footed. There's no excuse for a player to score from 1st on a bloop hit to center field. This team is pathetic. It's not like if he charges it it's going to fly past him, it would have bounced feebly on the turf and worst-case the guy scores from first which is exactly what happened. There's just some bad juju going around with this ballclub. Oh, and f***ing great, Pierre got a hit and dove for a ball to left that he didn't need to dive for, so he just bought himself the rest of the season. ‘‘We’re playing no doubles in one of the biggest ballparks in this league,’’ Lillibridge said. ‘‘Once it stops, I have to make sure [i field it]. I can’t go in on a bare-hand sprint and miss the ball. .  .  . That’s a good call by the third-base coach there because he knew I had to break down and grab the ball.’’ Guillen doesn’t believe in playing his outfielders deep at spacious Coors Field. “Coming here, I think it was a mistake people made when they play deep,” Guillen said. “They make a big hole between the infield and the outfield. I think you should play normal. They played deep because the ball carries. Well, if the ball is over your head, it’s a home run. Make sure you catch the balls in front of you.”

QUOTE (southsideirish71 @ Jun 28, 2011 -> 11:59 PM) Really. This is your final straw. Get a grip. And stop with the absolutes. You must of missed Rios the Toronto Blue Jay if this is the first time you have seen this before. Oh the outrage, the humanity. If the rest of the team had greg's passion, we'd clearly be in first place and running away with the division. I love you, my man, greg775!!!

QUOTE (Cerbaho-WG @ Jun 29, 2011 -> 06:18 AM) First of all, good for Ozzie for benching Rios. It needed to happen. Second, Lillibridge needs to be benched for what he did last night. He dragged ass and cost us the game. Punishment needs to be handed out evenly. So you'd play Pierre in CF, Dunn in LF and Quentin in RF tonight? Teahen in LF and Pierre in CF? Bring up Milledge and put Rios on the suspended list (not that the union would ever let them get away with it).

Slightly different set of quotes here... http://www.suntimes.com/sports/6229849-419...st-of-year.html ‘‘I was kind of glad,’’ Guillen said, ‘‘because I was suffering there with my coaches. We had opportunities. F--- it. Get the game over with, and we go home and hopefully get it tomorrow. It was the worst game we played all year long. We had chances over and over and over, but we didn’t take advantage. You do that over and over again, the baseball gods get you.’’ ‘‘Rios don’t run the bases; that’s why I got him out of the game,’’ Guillen said. ‘‘It’s not the first time it happened. I don’t like the way he runs the bases. .  .  . And that’s a message for everyone: If they don’t f---ing run the bases, their reputation comes on me, and I have a greater reputation in this f---ing game to do it that way. They don’t run the bases (see the subtle difference?), they’re out of the game. I don’t give a s--- if it’s Paul Konerko or Adam Dunn or anyone. You don’t run the bases, you’re out of the game.’’ Lillibridge described it as a weird play. ‘‘We’re playing no doubles in one of the biggest ballparks in this league,’’ Lillibridge said. ‘‘Once it stops, I have to make sure [i field it]. I can’t go in on a bare-hand sprint and miss the ball. .  .  . That’s a good call by the third-base coach there because he knew I had to break down and grab the ball.’’ After that, the Sox were just plain inept, going 2-for-27 in the sixth through 13th innings. Konerko and Pierzynski were each 0-for-5. ‘‘The way we played today from the first inning, I don’t think we should win this game at all,’’ Guillen said. ‘‘The only thing we did was pitch well. Everything else was very bad." ‘‘When they play like that, they should dress and leave right away. For one second we didn’t deserve to win. Very bad. ‘‘They struggle with men on third base with less than two outs. We [don’t] do the little things, and we expect to win? Hell, no. You play like s---, you go home like s---. What else you want to know?’’

QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Jun 29, 2011 -> 02:19 AM) Part of me thinks Ozzie wants to go to the Marlins but he and Reinsdorf have a loyalty to each other. Ozzie is more of a NL type manager. The rest of the baseball world doesn't see as an inept manager like the fans do. I've liked Kenny's aggressiveness in getting someone like Jake Peavy. That story hasn't ended yet on whether it was worth it. His moves in the past few years just don't make sense. He's done a poor job handling the minors. The only way to fix that is with more spending. I don't like it when he acquire players from losing organizations. I think there is something there mentally. Well, Crain and AJ are former Twins. Are you referring to all the ex-Royals we've picked up over the years? Swisher played on winning teams with the A's. O Cabrera almost always played on playoff teams. Even Edwin Jackson's pitched for some very good Tigers and Rays teams. Maybe Javy?? A lot of our collegiate draft picks played on College World Series teams, too. Mitchell and Beckham, for example.

“We played like (bleep), you go home like (bleep),” said manager Ozzie Guillen, who pulled center fielder Alex Rios in the bottom of the seventh inning for not running hard. “What else you guys want to know?” “I don’t think we should feel bad because we earned it to lose this game,” Guillen said. “We deserved to lose. I think the way we played from the first inning, I don’t think we should have won this game at all. We had opportunities. The only thing about this game, we pitched well. Everything else was pretty bad. “I don’t know why those guys hang their heads over there when they played like that. Usually they get dressed and leave right away because I don’t think we, for one second, deserved to win this game. The game finished the way it started – very bad. It’s nobody’s fault. If they’re going to blame anybody, they should blame everyone – counting myself.” As for Rios, “(he) don’t run the bases,” Guillen said. “That’s why I got him out of the game. It’s not the (first time) it’s happened.” Rios was 0-for-3 and dropped a fly for an error in the fifth. "They don’t run the bases, they don’t want to play or tired or hurt, that reputation comes with me and I have a great reputation in this (bleeping) game to do (the right) way," Guillen said. "They don’t run the bases, they’re out of the game. I don’t give a (bleep) if it’s (Paul) Konerko or Adam Dunn or anyone. "If you don’t play the game right, you’re out of the game.” mark gonzales/tribunesports.com

“"We played like (bleep), you go home like (bleep),"” said manager Ozzie Guillen, who pulled center fielder Alex Rios in the bottom of the seventh inning for not running hard. “"What else you guys want to know?"” “"I don't think we should feel bad because we earned it to lose this game,"” Guillen said. “"We deserved to lose. I think the way we played from the first inning, I don't think we should have won this game at all. We had opportunities. The only thing about this game, we pitched well. Everything else was pretty bad." “"I don't know why those guys hang their heads over there when they played like that. Usually they get dressed and leave right away because I don't think we, for one second, deserved to win this game. The game finished the way it started, very bad. It’s nobody's fault. If they're going to blame anybody, they should blame everyone counting myself.” As for Rios, "(he) don't run the bases,"” Guillen said. “"That's why I got him out of the game. It's not the (first time) its happened." "They don't run the bases, they don't want to play or tired or hurt, that reputation comes with me and I have a great reputation in this (bleeping) game to do (the right) way," Guillen said. "They don't run the bases, they're out of the game. I don't give a (bleep) if it’s (Paul) Konerko or Adam Dunn or anyone." "If you don't play the game right, you're out of the game." chicagotribune.com/sports (Mark Gonzales) THis should draw some amusing and somewhat hyperbolic commentary.

It has been very clear in their games against the DBacks, Nationals and now the Rockies that the other teams hustled more, busted it down the line much more frequently and also took the extra bases against the White Sox. We're always seemingly on our heels, part of it is that we don't hold runners or throw anyone out or even succeed on pitchouts. That's part of the 4-8 extra innings record. We just don't have the ability to manufacture runs and there's been a consistent lack of hitting with RISP. We've been stuck between 2-5 games under .500 for weeks now. Someone described that as climbing but I really don't see it when you have such an emotionless, limp response to lackadaisical baseball and offense from the manager. Perhaps this latest Rios controversy will light a fire under the team and clubhouse, but it's not going to help us go from first to third (or home) or 2nd to home on singles. We've lost that multidimensionality and athleticism from our offense compared to when Alexei, Rios and Pierre were all running more frequently and being much more aggressive on the basepaths. This team is just kind of lost and has been searching for some kind of an identity all season. They're the slight below average, good pitching, lousy offense "boring" Sox this season.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 28, 2011 -> 10:44 PM) Bad offensive approach? Very rarely do you see the Sox execute well in extra innings. I don't focus nearly as much on other teams in extra innings, so no clue if this is a Sox phenomenon or league wide issue. Combined with random bullpen implosions. Since 2008, we haven't had that confidence to win the close games....only that one month stretch last season, and first half of 2006.

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Jun 28, 2011 -> 10:41 PM) but it was todd helton Almost all of them are inside pitches.....flares, gorks, dunks, dinks, Texas Leaguers, infield singles, broken bats. Pitch away, Matt. Rockies are 0-4 in extra innings.

We don't need Viciedo, we need a full frontal lobotomy.

Sale instead of Thornton? Okay. We shall see. Chris has been doing much better recently.

QUOTE (Soxfest @ Jun 28, 2011 -> 08:32 PM) Pierre should of got the same treatment weeks ago. Except he always hustles and busts his butt. It's just that he's lost 2 steps or more in the last 12 months. Pierre would never, ever be benched for laziness by Ozzie. Why didn't Floyd try to tag him?

Lillibridge now in CF. Maybe Ozzie's monitoring our game thread, lol.

8 in a row retired. Now folks, we've reached the stretch in the typical White Sox game where we've let the other pitcher off the hook so many times that we just sleepwalk offensively through 2-3 innings.

Have we given up more leads than any team in baseball from the 6th inning on?

QUOTE (JoshPR @ Jun 28, 2011 -> 09:05 PM) Guy's got 2 errors, s*** happens Doesn't Rios play for Puerto Rico in the World Baseball Classic? Let me ask you this. Would you ever see Roberto Clemente make a half-assed play like that, even when he was 38 years in 1972?

QUOTE (JoshPR @ Jun 28, 2011 -> 09:01 PM) I imagine you would be a heck of a centerfielder, I'm starting to agree it's getting old. Ok bad play complain and move on, man there's gonna be 5 pages in th thread on the rios play That would double the entire thread. And it doesn't matter, since the run didn't score. However, Floyd had to throw extra stressful pitches to get out of the inning and the worst part is that Rios can get away with basically anything and Ozzie will never discipline him or bench him. I'll defer to DJ, a former outfielder and never one to rip on Sox players too much. "What's going on there? That's a play that simply has to be made, no excuses."

QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Jun 28, 2011 -> 08:59 PM) +1 You honestly think Rios has played well in CF compared to 2009 or 2010? And your main measurement of that is only 2 errors committed? Really?