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Ginger, hallucinogenics are bad for your health. Not even the CLE bullpen can wake up our slumbering offense. Agreed with previous sentiments, this game seemed a big turning point to get to 5 games under .500 and sort of sniffing getting back into it with Minnesota facing the Yankees, the one team in baseball they always struggle to beat (with the exception of the last game they played which broke the string).

Mike Mussina will/should get into the Hall of Fame, he's another pitcher that comes to mind in the "very good" but not "great" for most of his career category. And Pettitte, because of his time spent with the Yankees, will get stronger consider for the HOF than Mark Buehrle, 100%. I know many will argue that point, though (about Mussina), especially those who saw him pitch in the first half of his career with some so-so Baltimore teams. When I think back about great pitching though, I think of Dwight Gooden in his rookie year or Saberhagen every other year in the 80's. Maybe Verlander and Greinke, the way they pitched last season. I think Buehrle, at most, ends up around 225. But IMO 175-200 is just as likely.

LOL, didn't realize until I heard this from the Indians' announcers, yesterday's loss was the 2nd worst in the history of interleague baseball.

Kotsay=1 for 17 with RISP We are better with RISP than the Orioles, 29th in MLB. Kotsay now 2 for 18, .111, will have to call him out every time, haha.

You can ameliorate/remedy/improve a bad situation, but you really wouldn't ameliorate a payroll....it's not quite the proper usage, there are a lot better choices. At best, a stretch.

QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ May 23, 2010 -> 03:28 PM) Here's a game to pass the time. Guess that current/former White Sox player by scouting report from draft day. Starting with a current Sox:" Strong, athletic physique. Well-defined legs and arms. Body like Alex Rodriguez. Wide, balanced, open stance. Good bat speed, plus power potential. Major League arm with carry. Smart player, good instincts with sure hands. Anticipates well at shortstop." Mike Morse? Andy Gonzalez? LOL Definitely not Caruso.

I think that can be one of our promo lines down the stretch.... See a new and interesting way how our 3B can f--- up the game defensively. And that's the end HOPEFULLY of Mr. Williams' MLB career. But probably not. IT'S STILL EARLY.

QUOTE (JohnCangelosi @ May 23, 2010 -> 12:20 PM) Teahen looks like a 3 legged dog out there Or those "death machines" from War of the Worlds (Tom Cruise) version...

Rios is now one of the five most valuable trade chips in all of baseball. I guess that's positive. Hard to believe he was ever in a slump...and such a terrible one last year. Hopefully we'll say the same thing about Gordon's troubles when we look back at 2010 and his career trajectory.

QUOTE (jphat007 @ May 23, 2010 -> 12:17 PM) Now thats some mother f***ing positivity right there. It's crazy, but it's positivity none the less Might as well...really, it doesn't even "hurt" anymore to go through innings like that. It's just like Ivan Drago versus Apollo Creed with our team playing the role of Apollo. Unfortunately, we're lacking the Rocky Balboa slugger factor in our offense on most days.

QUOTE (chisox2334 @ May 23, 2010 -> 12:15 PM) and no teahen wasnt going get that hard one liner at third. the ball was smoaked Justin Smoaked...? BBQ'ed? Flambayed?

It's okay. Still early. We have the offense to come back against Johnson. The White Sox love fastball pitchers historically.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 23, 2010 -> 12:13 PM) Teahen seems like he's going to fall down playing 3B at least once a game. No, no, that's just super-quick range. He's lulling the other team into trying to bunt on him by appearing outwardly to be akward in his fielding mannerisms.

QUOTE (Heads22 @ May 23, 2010 -> 12:12 PM) I'm following on Gameday. How did Ramirez not score from second on a double? I think he was kind of "deked" out by Pierre somehow...like he was going to be able to catch that ball. He still scored anyway. Wonder if that will spark another controversy with Gonzalez, who seems to be falling into disfavor big-time with Loria.

It's still early. We'll win this game for sure. We're just setting the Marlins up to take an early lead and rest on their laurels.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ May 23, 2010 -> 09:02 AM) On the other side of the coin, how come you have to remind everyone after every game that you dont feel it is possible to catch the Twins or Tigers? You absolutely bask in it, and every time someone says "you know, if X and Y happens, we just may have a shot at competing for the rest of the year and maybe/possibly/dare I say catching up to the almighty Twins" you come back with (basically, not verbatim) "No, we cant do it, the Twins are too good and too many things have to happen" So, to your "Fine, nobody should care, we should just shut down SoxTalk until trade talks resume!!!", I respond to you with "Fine, the Sox are 6 games under .500, we should just shut down Soxtalk until 2011 starts!!!" Caulfield, the last two winner threads, you didnt even mention the game. You mentioned the Twins and Tigers, and how its not going to happen. At least try and discuss the two nice wins that we just had before you dump cold water over everyone. Where are you with a comment when I've written about 80-90% positive things about the White Sox the last 2-3 weeks? If you followed the minor league section, you would notice I've written many many positive statements about our minor leaguers, especially VICIEDO. In fact, I don't think there's another poster here besides CUBANO who has been more in his corner since the day that the White Sox signed him. IF there is, I'd like to know who it is... I guess you must have skipped over all those threads, trying to catch me making a mistake between Mauer/Morneau. Maybe if I actually lived in the US, if I actually could watch tv or ESPN or had enough bandwith strength to be able to watch MLB games live, then I wouldn't make such a silly mistake. And from now on, is it okay for me to say "stop dumping cold water on everyone" whenever any negative comment is written about the players, Ozzie, KW, Walker, etc.??? I remember being blasted day after day after day for not buying into the Brian Anderson is a victim of the vindictive Ozzie Guillen vendetta story when it was pretty obvious all along he was never going to measure up, just like I've said about Teahen over and over again. Maybe it's my imagination, but it feels like roughly 85% of the posts here in the last 4-6 weeks have been pretty critical/negative, maybe I'm missing something and I'm the only one who doesn't see each day as a Rainbow Brite My Little Pony-ish day of "the White Sox will win the division because the 1983 team started out with a 16-24 record so obviously we will do the same thing again this year...." FINAL POINT: UMMM...I live in China, there's a 13 hour time difference between here and Chicago. I'm sorry I couldn't wake up, in order to please you, to comment about games I wasn't even home or awake to listen to....but tonight I'll make sure to set my alarm clock to wake up at 2 a.m., even though I have to teach at 8 am tomorrow, just so I can contribute. Thanks for that advice.

LOL. Fine, nobody should care, we should just shut down SoxTalk until trade talks resume!!! Why care about anything? Don't we have better things to argue about than who cares about something, who doesn't care enough, who cares too much....who used to care, but now is looking for reasons to care but isn't willing to trust the Sox anymore than you would trust a girlfriend that's already been caught cheating on you two times (lol, no, this is not a personal example).

There's DeLosSantos and Dexter Carter out there too...

Colligan RF 4 2 3 0 0 1 2 1 1 .284 Thompson, T CF 3 1 1 0 0 0 0 1 2 .248 Gonzalez, Mi C 4 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 2 .222 OP was looking too crowded and messy to read....Thompson with another walk. Colligan with a homer.

Lillibridge SS 5 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 2 .265 Retherford 2B 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 3 .211 Kroeger LF 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 .192 Viciedo 1B 4 1 2 2 0 0 0 0 1 .300 Gartrell RF 2 1 1 0 0 0 0 1 1 .269 Danks, Jor CF 3 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 1 .228 Lucy C 3 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 .273 Viciedo continues to rake with 2 doubles. Danks with only 1 K/3 AB's and 669 OPS. No Flowers. Lillibridge and CJ Retherford both just had chances to win it with walk-off hits with 1 and 2 outs and the bases loaded and both struck out against Jensen Lewis. Retherford has 3 K's in 5 AB's tonight, not so good. Santeliz continues to be perhaps the best bullpen prospect, or at least the most interesting one in upper levels. BIRM split a DHer. Morel was 2/3 with a stolen base, now at .321. A. Carter recorded his 3rd save of the season. WINSTON SALEM PURPLE PHALLUS CONTINUES TO KICK-ASS. Perhaps most encouraging, Escobar hit TWO freaking homers, and Justin Greene hit his 6th. NOTE to KW: promote some of these guys so the Barons aren't the most boring team in baseball, coming off a season when they were one of the 3-5 most interesting teams in all the minors. Short RF 5 2 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 .371 Escobar SS 5 3 4 0 1 2 4 0 0 .266 Gilmore 3B 5 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 .337 Loman 1B 4 1 3 0 0 1 2 0 0 .287 Lewis DH 5 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 .315 Bour C 5 1 3 2 0 0 2 0 1 .324 Shelton 2B 5 1 2 0 0 1 2 0 0 .281 Cheatham LF 5 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 .274 Greene CF 4 1 2 0 0 1 1 0 0 .340 BTW, I'm not sure if Kotsay 5th or Kroeger 3rd place hitter is worse?

MacDougal was decent last year for stretches with the Nationals. Rauch basically "found himself" as a pitcher in the NL, same with Majewski. Even Charlie Haeger still has a pulse in the NL. What next, Arnie Munoz, Josh Stewart and Mike Porzio comebacks?

At any rate, it's pretty clear the Twins aren't going to be the easiest team in the world for the Brewers to take out. They (Brew Crew) couldn't even manage to hold the lead after staging a huge, what would turn out (for most teams) to be a 5-run crooked number and back-breaking comeback (including 2 off of Rauch) today. Basically, we have to sweep teams or go 2-1 every series and wipe out DET and MIN when we play them head-to-head over the remainder of the season.

make KW and our farm system look any better in your eyes, or do you subscribe to the theory that the NL really is THAT weak? You can also use Clayton Richard, Jon Garland and Jose Contreras to further this argument. Could either Ely or Gio be pitching close to this well with the White Sox, in your opinion?

The problem with feasting on the NL is that the Twins and Tigers are going to do the same thing. Even KC was leading the Rockies tonight, CLE lost to Cincy (not a surprise in the least)...I don't think we can make up that much ground, especially with the Twins getting 6 against MIL, very few games against BOST and we have those Cubs' games we're really lucky to get 4/6.

Oswalt has just announced he's seeking a trade. Nobody in MLB wants El Caballo. Berkman will find some takers, though. What, if anything, the Stros can get back in return is another question entirely.