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QUOTE (docsox24 @ May 9, 2010 -> 11:00 AM) why on earth would you want two more washed up guys? the red sox would gladly give up those bums Therein lies the problem... What team will give up guys who are not washed up, declining, injured....unless they are forced to by financial circumstances, like the Tigers with Granderson and Edwin Jackson? Since Ozzie loves veterans, you might as well go down with the ship playing all veterans, right? Actually, forget about Peavy. Let's just say that the White Sox could work out some mutually beneficial deal to send some B prospects to the Red Sox and they (the Carmines) would pay similar salary amounts to what the Dodgers did with subsidizing Pierre and Jones? I think it would be worth it, if we could get away with spending only $4-6 million for half season rentals of those two to inject some life into the offense. That saves face for Esptein, the Boston fans and for the respected veterans, it's a win-win IMO. There's no way Andruw Jones can continue to play this well, nor will Konerko. Rios, you expect to settle in between 775 and 850 OPS, yes? If I could get away with trading, let's say, Shelby III/Santeliz/Nathan Jones (they'll definitely want at least ONE high upside guy) and would only have to pay Lowell and Ortiz $4-6 million for the remainder of the season, I'd seriously consider it. If nothing else, it would help to increase attendance and interest in the Sox, like the Peavy/Rios deals and the Buehrle no-hitter last year.

The wish of Teahen and Vizquel on the bench has been granted. We'll see how it works out. Romero trifled with us last time. Eveland has gotten us twice already, so let's hope we can solve Romero and get the split and take some momentum into Minnesota.

I actually think if Lowell (3B) and Ortiz (DH) could put up their historic numbers, we could get back into it with those two in the line-up. It would certainly make me feel a lot more excited about the team. Never, ever going to happen, however. Rather than just Peavy 1/5 days. Of course, they won't be able to put up those numbers, undeniably they're close to done. And Peavy would be more valuable, if we did trade him...for whatever reason....we'd get back young players and minor league prospects, not veterans.

What if it was Garland, Richard, Poreda, Carter, Russell and A-Gone for Peavy and Ramirez OR Quentin?

"We were peeved we had CR/AP, but now we have (THE REAL F'in) Peavy."

No to a team in Indiana, Louisville or Buffalo... http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=Amd3...i-yankees050810 Are the Yankees getting too old, too fast?

QUOTE (Benchwarmerjim @ May 9, 2010 -> 06:24 AM) lol no, the funny thing about the futility with the bases loaded is that the Twins are amongst the top team (batting average wise) when runners are in scoring position...batting something like .275 Which do you think was the best Twins' team (since 87/91) and why?? 2002-2004, 2006 or 2009? Do Twins' fans feel that they currently have the Top 3 starters to go out and win a playoff series? (Liriano/Baker/Blackburn.....with Slowey and Pavano battling for the fourth spot or being skipped) What would the Twins be willing to give up to acquire Scott Linebrink, Bobby Jenks or JJ Putz? Would you take Mark Teahen if we just gave him to you for FREE and you had to assume his 3 year contract obligation?

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseb...0,6522211.story Ozzie hasn't jumped off the cliff quite yet.

QUOTE (chisoxfan09 @ May 9, 2010 -> 05:51 AM) The BoSox?? WHo would you ask for if it was even concievable? Problem is I think Jake has a limited NTC. David Ortiz and Mike Lowell. And Boston would be picking up 85% of the salaries for those two guys.

QUOTE (jeffro2525 @ May 8, 2010 -> 11:21 PM) So when are they going announce that they're skipping Freddy Tuesday? Danks and Buehrle against Mauer/Morneau and company sounds better to me that Freddy going out there Tuesday... Garcia was great against them last time. That said, I wouldn't expect it to happen twice. He was leading into the 8th, walked Thome and then Kubel hit a bomb. 2-1 loss...

Gavin needs to get on one of his patented 4-6 week hot streaks where he dominates and his curveball is a thing of beauty. If we actually want to get back into this thing, we can't do it with Gavin pitching like a fifth starter in our rotation from 2001-2004. He has looked more like Jason Grilli than Gavin Floyd of recent vintage. Maybe the warming weather (up until this homestand) will help, as it has with SOME of our hitters like Alexei.

If you tried to trade Jake Peavy away two weeks ago when he was averaging an 89-90-91 MPH fastball, with his injury history and bad mechanics....???? Now, things have changed. (Of course, you can argue that Peavy is pointless to spend that type of money on if we don't have EITHER Danks or Buehrle to pair with in the rotation...UNLESS Daniel Hudson really is a legit #2-3 type of starter). But I'd like to see your list of all the AL teams who would have taken Jake Peavy b4 his last two starts. The Yankees? Red Sox? Angels? Rangers? Mariners? And what they would have given up in return? Brandon Wood? Reggie Willits? Alex Rios...same thing? What teams in MLB can afford that contract right now, even if he is putting up an 850-900 OPS? There are probably 3-5 we could name...but we wouldn't be getting a huge payout from him.

QUOTE (Benchwarmerjim @ May 8, 2010 -> 09:29 PM) Mauer pinch hit with the bases load tonight. he struck out Drew Butera then hits a 2 runs single. The Twins have been horrible with the bases loaded this year. only 8 hits now in about 50 at bats, and getting closer to 60 plate appearances (if you included walks and such) So basically you guys suck and are nothing like the magical RISP machine from 2008? Joking...Baker had a strong performance to pick up Liriano. You just knew the Twins wouldn't lose 3 in a row at home to BALT, and get swept in a DH to boot. How was the weather up there? Probably about the same as in Chicago. It's never cold when you're winning.

QUOTE (Jenks Heat @ May 8, 2010 -> 07:49 PM) Gotta say the jays make a pitcher work they are like poors man Boston/NY 98% of casual baseball fans have no clue that Aaron Hill and Adam Lind combined for 71 dingers last year. Put them in Boston, Chicago, LA or Phillly, they'd be famous.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 8, 2010 -> 08:08 PM) Jones, Konerko, and Rios continue to hit the ball harder than anyone else. Teahen better not be playing tomorrow, and Quentin/Beckham still aren't close to even being mediocre right now. Peavy's slider was awesome though, and has me very optimistic about him going forward. And Ramirez...although he's getting closer. He almost hit a bomb to LF and followed it with a soft single, and he was inches from being safe at first on his ill-conceived dive into 1B play when Gonzalez (your AL starting SS in the All-Star game if it were held today) nailed him (OR NOT). If he had run through the bag, he'd have had a 3/4 or 3/5 day. Maybe Beckham's cheap infield hit with lead to something good...the patience with the walks is SOMETHING to be encouraged by, fingers crossed.

But Casey Blake had a much more "reasonable" contract at the time he was dealt than PK. And 3B is seen as a harder position to replace than 1B. That makes a huge difference, how much payroll a team is willing to take on, and how much it values salary dollars (it's what caused us to give up Chris B. Young in the Vazquez deal, partially, the money we got to subsidize Javier's deal). Let's not forget Linebrink as one of the four untrade-ables, to go along with Jenks/Pierre/Teahen. On the "plus" side, Rios and Peavy have now moved to the point where they could be easily jettisoned from the payroll, but we couldn't get much if anything back at all...

He's only 21 years old and putting up those numbers in High A. I think we have to AT LEAST think of him as capable of being a #6-12 type of prospect (eventually) in our system. Because God knows there are a ton of holes in the games of both Shelby III and Danks. Between Colligan, Greene and Short, hopefully one of them really blossoms, and Mitchell can come back 100%.

QUOTE (joesaiditstrue @ May 8, 2010 -> 06:45 PM) thats why theyre 7.5 back Technically just 7 GB. Juan, where was that bunt last night???

Hudson finally got touched up for a couple of runs.... C'mon offense, wake up!!! It's like we score 2-3 early and think we can rest on our laurels. Except any team with a .223 BA doesn't have many laurels on which to rest upon.

Obviously John Buck needs to be the starting catcher for the White Sox in 2011. Viciedo now starting to put things together: 1 for 1, 2 R's, 1 BB, 825 OPS.

Didn't realize we now had the dubious rank of lowest BA in the majors at .223.

Short RF 2 2 2 1 0 0 1 0 0 .376 Escobar SS 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 .265 Gilmore 3B 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 .339 Loman 1B 2 1 1 0 0 1 3 0 0 .287 Lewis DH 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 .373 Sierra C 2 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 .276 Cheatham LF 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .364 Garcia, An 2B 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .321 Greene CF 1 1 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 .344 Brandon Short now with a 26 game hitting streak (1B/2B)....only 5 more to go to tie the All-Time CAR League record.

Perfect place for Alexei to run. Only 1 SB on the year for GoGo Sox. He's out, Pierre still leads off. Maybe Ozzie ordered him not to run so that Beckham could hit first next inning? Daniel Hudson, 4 IP, 3 H, O R, 4 K's....Peavy and Hudson are twins this season statistically.

Mark Teahen is actually my least favorite player on the team, behind Pierre and Williams.

And hey, things could be worse. At least we don't have John Ely and Charlie Haeger as 2/5th's of our starting rotation.