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QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Jan 20, 2015 -> 09:31 AM) Alcantara is their CF Fowler is a corner guy or 4th OF. I'm fairly sure they see Alcantara as a super utility / platoon guy. He's never hit RHP well enough to play every day.

QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Jan 17, 2015 -> 01:36 AM) I really hope Micah starts the season in AAA. I think 2B is going to be Bonafacio's job, and I want to see Micah get full reps versus just a bench role. Prior to Bonafacio signing, I was pulling for Micah to win the 2B job, but now I think that's just not happening unless we see an injury in the spring and Bon has to take over that position. Hopefully that situation doesn't come up and Micah can be completely ready to go for 2016 in the majors. I feel the opposite. A big reason we should all hope that Micah wins the job is so that we can use Boni properly and maximize his flexibility. Hope he's ready.

QUOTE (oldsox @ Jan 15, 2015 -> 07:52 PM) Might be the last $650K he earns in MLB. Are you concerned he can't recover from all the injuries? I agree there must be a lot of stress on the back/butt when you throw 100, but we may know sooner than the ASB as he ramps up to form.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jan 11, 2015 -> 11:40 AM) http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/o/ogandal01.shtml Had a really rough injury plagued 2014. But prior years he was pretty dang good. How would you guys feel if Ogando was the final piece of a rebuilt bullpen? I can definitely see him as the 6th starter-swingman that I'd hoped Bassitt could become. Good for a team that can't be too sure what it has at the BOR. Can he be what he was a few years ago?

QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Jan 6, 2015 -> 06:42 PM) http://m.whitesox.mlb.com/news/article/105...ick-majors-leap "He's worth every amount of money we paid him," said Tyler Danish, a right-handed starter in the White Sox organization who pitched with Rodon at Class A Winston-Salem. "His slider is one of the most devastating pitches I've ever seen, and the kid works hard. When you are around him, you don't know he's the third pick. Just a great kid." Click the video to hear Hahn talk about Rodon. Funny to see Tyler Danish talking about someone two years his senior as "just a great kid".

QUOTE (LDF @ Jan 6, 2015 -> 12:20 PM) i don't, or else they would have done so. Maybe you're both right, but needs change when players get hurt in ST. I'm saying there's a chance. If he looks horrid in ST, the 3.7Million will likely be salvaged. If he looks good, could help tradeability. I think the "D-day" is somewhere around St. Patty's, March 17. We may be drinking to Tank's departure.

QUOTE (LDF @ Jan 6, 2015 -> 11:34 AM) the problem is not whether DV is not worth the spot, its if the sox can deal with DV as a spare for the OF. doesn't the sox need a LH batter for the OF???? the other point i would like to address, Avi, has shown not to be able to play without getting hurt, same with Eaton. the other factor is whether the idea of Sanchez manning 2b. so in essence the sox need some other spare parts on the bench or in the minors. the minors have yet to produce any viable option yet i am sure in another yr they might. but that will not help the big team now. No, they don't. You've only got 1 righty out there already. Boni becomes the primary fourth OF plus CG platoon partner, if they go with a guy like Sanchez as the 25th man, or he becomes the primary backup infielder, if the 25th man is smeone like Jordan Danks. But a lefty OF is no longer a need, and the 25th man can now be determined by ST and merit, if they so choose - a nice allowance due to EB's flexibility. Bench, as of today, and making the big assumption that Micah is ready to man 2B: Tank - LaRoche platoon/PH/occasional LF Boni CSanchez or JorDanks or other RHH OF with enough power and defensive ability to make Tank even less useful Backup C - I'll go with Nieto in a close call, still might see a new upgrade here. Whoever it is will have a larger role than Nieto had in 2014. I think Tank has a role now, even if he is far from ideal for it. RH isn't painted into a corner of having to dump him. Boni MAY be the last move guaranteed to affect the 25 man between now and ST.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Jan 5, 2015 -> 03:16 PM) However, I do hope we're not set on the bench. I've had my fill on Jordan Danks even though I do like him. I'd be in the market for a RH, defensive-minded outfielder who could play CF. At the beginning of the offseason I had Chris Denorfia as plan A and Chris B. Young as plan B. That way, instead of platooning Adam LaRoche, which some posters are suggesting but will not happen, we can improve defense and sit LaRoche against some lefties. Move Avi/Cabrera to DH or Eaton when he's injured and improve the defense/play for splits. Craig Gentry would be my higher-end, buy-low pick up of choice but we would have to trade for him. As far as free agents, it seems the best options have been taken away already with the aforementioned two as well as Ruggiano all being picked up. I'm afraid it's just not a priority in the front office at this point. You may well be right regarding the bolded, but let me propose a not so fast caveat. Bonifacio, because of his IF/OF versatility actually frees up the roster for defining just that role. And if DV proves untradeable this offseason, but is still worthy of a one more chance sentiment from the FO (a real possibility, imo), then what other role can DV possibly play with EB now in the fold? Or, to put it another way, it's clear that Hahn reads Soxtalk and NOT SSS. QUOTE (Vance Law @ Jan 6, 2015 -> 02:03 AM) I'd say you are very much in the minority here. It would seem clear that as things stand now, Bonifacio is Gillaspie's platoon mate at 3rd and a super utility guy who can play infield and outfield, pinch run, and replace just about anyone defensively. The starting second base job will go to Sanchez or Johnson. Circumstances could arise where Bonifacio takes over the 2nd base job if he's hitting great and Sanchez and/or Johnson fall flat on their face and the team is in contention. But the opening day starter will be Sanchez or Johnson. I am in this camp as well.

QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Jan 4, 2015 -> 06:31 PM) What if Hahn offered you the position of his special GM counsel on the condition you had to drink from his fart glass for the first few weeks...would you accept? Edit: thanks, stix Absolutely. If not rainbows, it's at least "new car" farting. Thanks, Burner.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Dec 30, 2014 -> 01:18 PM) I think his consecutive years batting under .200 killed his career more. While he probably wishes he took the 14 million, i think the 10 million he got was just fine. If i am him im not firing Boras for getting me 20 million over the last two years, I am probably hugging him He was set up for a fat payday had he played competently last year, and I'm not believing .162 wasn't related to his layoff. Now he isn't. We disagree. But, more importantly, just say no.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Dec 30, 2014 -> 01:08 PM) Scott Boras was the guy in a Drew jersey putting up a .536 OPS? Turned down $14.1M that he'll never see again, and the delay in him getting started last year likely lead to his value-killing dropoff. Yep, destroyed his career.

QUOTE (oldsox @ Dec 30, 2014 -> 11:41 AM) Let's do his agent, Scott Boros, a favor and sign him up. Was it a year ago when Boros was touting Drew as a top five or top ten SS? Give me a break. He is awful. Ask any Red Sox fan. Wait, Drew hasn't fired Boras yet for destroying his career?

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 23, 2014 -> 08:04 AM) IMO, the biggest uncertainty/issue for me is that I still don't see a righty who can take at-bats away from LaRoche, and he's terrible against lefties. I'm game with this rotation, I know who my top 6 are and there's even a potential backup or two after that, and I'm ok with the bullpen - the major roles are filled and bullpen pitchers are up and down enough that there's bound to be someone from that group who has an up season. Agreed, B. This is the biggest weakness in the 25 man imo. Without a platoon partner, the opposition will work their way toward a key LaRoche AB vs. a lefty pitcher, as we've seen so many times with Dunn in recent years. We lost many games over the past few years because Robin couldn't/wouldn't pinch hit for Dunn in such situations. LaRoche's track record at 35 y.o. tells us he just isn't very good vs. LHP. It's simple logic that this should be avoided whenever possible. Unfortunately, I fear that the org is somewhat afflicted by "old school BS" that says a platoon guy needs ABs against both sides so he won't be lost when that's imperative and/or it's an "insult" to a long-term starter to ask him to accept a platoon role. Whereas a mgr. like Maddon will just say to himself "LaRoche is bad vs. lefties, we'll avoid it whenever possible", the Sox' machinations in this regard will likely be needlessly complicated...Or so I fear. Really hoping that a platoon is part of the plan.

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Dec 16, 2014 -> 06:35 PM) Yep those are the quotes I was referring to earlier. All the bed wetting on SSS about tendering Viciedo was so stupid. And fwiw I called them out at the time. This place was much more balanced. Definitely. I like a lot of the voices there, but it's way too cliquish/groupthinkey.

QUOTE (almagest @ Dec 16, 2014 -> 01:10 PM) I also doubt it's going to happen, but the point of my post was (in a limited sample size) he was WAY better than I expected. Maybe there's still some hope for him? At the very least, I believe that TFlow can improve his defensive abilities a bit going forward, and he's been working to do that, making an adjustment to help in framing pitches. You never know, but I'm going to figure that what he is at the dish currently will likely remain the standard going forward.

We'll be going for the three peat, while mixing in a little bit of new blood. It'll be sweet. I think Davidson is Mike Olt. Hopefully, this will be Trey's rookie year at 3b, though 2018 may be more likely.

QUOTE (ptatc @ Dec 15, 2014 -> 12:51 PM) This is the most likely outcome based on the metrics this group uses. You should clarify that. In the medical world, I never based my conclusion on anything just one person/group says. Yes, and isn't it obvious that their knowledge of how the org views its personnel is lacking? You can start there as a point of contention. Leury likely not in plans, ALaR likely at DH predominantly, do they not read the papers? Most importantly, not the finished product quite yet.

QUOTE (mataipaepae @ Dec 15, 2014 -> 08:20 AM) Why is WAR the end all be all? It isn't, and many of the projections are clearly dumb. Lexi is stealing bases better/more efficiently than ever over the last two seasons. Are they expecting him to get fat, now that the calendar has turned? QUOTE (mmmmmbeeer @ Dec 15, 2014 -> 11:42 AM) The most polished, possibly best, pitcher in a solid 2014 draft class grabbing a 2 WAR this season is "ludicrous" but a computer program having Q lose 3 WAR for no apparent reason is to be believed? I dig the stats and they do have value, but c'mon. This, as well. I won't get worked up over it. If RH feels there will be "gaping holes", then stopgaps are still on the menu. He's not going to come this far, only to leave too much up to the unproven.

QUOTE (Andy the Clown @ Dec 14, 2014 -> 10:50 AM) Dear Santa Hahn, I know that Christmas is your busy time of year, and that you've been so generous with we Sox fans in answering all of our wishes, but I have one final request: Please sign Jed Lowrie to an incentive-laden, one-year deal. He is relatively young (30), plays an outstanding 2B (6.0 UZR), and is an excellent buy low candidate given his below average BABIP (.281). A one-year deal allows Sanchez and Johnson another year to develop (they need it), and compensates for our relative offensive weaknesses at 3B and C. That being said, I realize that I am both greedy and just a Clown, so I will STFU and let you weave your magic. With Love, AtC Do you see why it was silly now to get all up in arms thinking that LaRoche killed any chance at Melky? Glad that you're a happy clown now. Lowrie, Zobrist, other? - maybe a few finishing moves left.

QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 14, 2014 -> 12:32 PM) If he's getting tested more often due to his previous failed test, then it's likely he's more clean than a random player on the team. Maybe. The caveat is that if you you're taking something that they aren't testing for and you know this, there's not a whole lot to worry about.

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Dec 14, 2014 -> 10:18 AM) If the Sox release him they will owe him right around 750K not the 4M he got in arbitration. That's right. Hahn has until two weeks before Opening Day to move him and only be on the hook for 750K, instead of 4.4M. I believe that release of DV at that point in time is the backup plan to moving him.

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Dec 14, 2014 -> 11:53 AM) He has all three option years remaining. He was never on anybody's 40 man roster until the Sox picked him in last winter's Rule V draft and he stayed on the Sox all season. I'm thinking he's still the best choice for backup C as we sit here today, so the options may not matter a whole lot. Of course, that could change. Let's hope he's taken a step forward. A more experienced backup might be a "finishing touch" type of move for this offseason.

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Dec 13, 2014 -> 05:56 PM) Not a chance. Yeah, I know.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Dec 13, 2014 -> 05:30 PM) I didn't realize that Bryce Harper filed a grievance with the union in order to void terms the final year of his contract, the 2015 season. (Typical Boras douche move) I would be all about bringing him to the Sox for this season if things have gotten past the point of repair with Rizzo. f*** it, go for it A douche undoubtedly, but could the apparent Rodon negotiation olive branch (I'm calling it an olive branch because SB/CR seemed to get everything they could have hoped for, with little leverage, imo), possibly be a bridge to a Harper having interest in the Palehose? Sure, he's a tool, but he'd be OUR tool. Change of scenery, mellow dude like RV might do him good.

QUOTE (LDF @ Dec 10, 2014 -> 11:29 AM) maybe it is me and my stubbornness, but i still see him as a starter. granted lets see how he does. That's just it, I don't want to "see how he does". I think I know who he is. If he's plan A as the LF starter, aim higher.