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Dewayne Wise.

QUOTE (beck72 @ Oct 6, 2009 -> 05:22 PM) Looking at some stats, Christian Marrero had outproduced Brandon Allen in AA, hitting .308/.348/.501 in 2 levels. He also is a lefty bat and plays 1b. Did his development allow the sox to trade Allen for Tony Pena? Marrero is only 5 months older than Allen. I haven't heard much about Marrero. What do people know about him? Is he a possible replacement for Konerko? He's 5 months younger, but anyway, I wrote a blog about him on Future Sox. I really liked what I saw out of him.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Oct 5, 2009 -> 11:39 AM) One thing we seem to have an abundance of is intriguing RP prospects. For our minor league gurus, who's the closest to the show at this point? It's too wide open to say.

QUOTE (striker62704 @ Oct 4, 2009 -> 09:38 PM) Awesome write up NSS. I'm wondering why the Sox didn't move Remenowsky up as fast as they moved Hudson. My guess is they'll push him up to B'ham next year.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Oct 2, 2009 -> 06:22 PM) Enjoy, feel free to comment. You're just considered a guest writer?

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Oct 1, 2009 -> 11:02 AM) Post 1 updated for Loman and Santos. But, if they are not on the 40, are they still Rule V eligible? I don't think Loman is, he only played what, 2 years in the Angels system?

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 1, 2009 -> 10:45 AM) Step 1: Fire ozzie Step 2: Get the Pirates to hire Ozzie Step 3: Cut a hole in a box Step 4: Trade McCutcheon straight up for Wise. Maybe Bobby Jenks? Nah, he'd be too expensive for them.

QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Oct 1, 2009 -> 10:19 AM) They must have really liked Santos' arm as an infielder, becasue he didn't produce results as a pitcher last year. I really do like Loman though. Santos had a good fastball, hit 99 on the gun. But no control. Loman will only be 24 before next season.

Sergio Santos and Seth Loman were resigned.

QUOTE (scenario @ Sep 30, 2009 -> 04:47 PM) I find it hard to understand why he was sent back to AA this year after absolutely destroying Southern League pitching in 2008. Just makes no sense to me unless there was someone in AAA they felt HAD to give playing time to instead of Cook... which obviously was not the case given the utter garbage we had in Charlotte most of the year. I'd love to hear someone in the Sox player development system give us the real story. The sad thing is, his parents said that he was "devastated" because he missed out on the Southern League All Star events. I say keep some of the guys on my list and put them in AAA. AAA is usually for veterans more so than prospects anyway, why not keep some organizational continuity and retain these guys? No need to go out and sign the Michael Restovich's and the Keith Ginter's when you can get the same production from Lee Cruz, David Cook, Robbie Hudson and other guys and have built in team chemistry to boot.

QUOTE (SoxAce @ Sep 30, 2009 -> 03:58 PM) Well I'll use the "Don't trust this man" from your sig next time then. And i'll personally apologize for the miscommunication of your question which I thought you were taking a shot at me. Ya I also listen to guys like you, Ozzie Ball, Rex Hudler, scenario, Jim Spencer etc.. most of them who actually watched the games as well, and some who I agree with more than others sometimes cause of what I have seen from them and their quick adjustments since college/high school which is believable. I just don't understand keeping the old guys/giving them a roster space unless they are late bloomers or really are good guys for the clubhouse which is what I'm saying. David Cook will never get a chance here so why keep him in taking away playing time for other younger prospects? Unless it's another minor league deal and unless the sox stop dicking around with him and put him in AAA let him thrive elsewhere. I still don't know how you think you come across sometimes, but personally I'll apologize that I came across too strong in this regard and just like both of us watching our minors and spects. I had a difficult time not telling David to get as far away from the White Sox organization as possible. I don't want to see him go, but I know it's for the best. What did you mean by this..."I still don't know how you think you come across sometimes"?

QUOTE (SoxAce @ Sep 30, 2009 -> 03:17 PM) I watched Cruz in college (actually liked him, thought he'd rise up through the system but at his age, his window is closing) and so far judging by your assessment of players you either fall in love with these guys (esp. the old ones) too easily or you are terrible in judging them. Unless the sox feel they should keep them to trade or to be good clubhouse guys they have no future with the sox org. and ever since you've said you have "seen them play" your chin has been so far up in the air when only a few guys you've named make sence at all and this is comming from a guy who hated Beckham comming out of college. No I don't get to see some of these guys when they hit the minors after college, or sometimes high school ball when I get to see them or some that I actually played with but unless they have potential, changed their style, or are younger I don't see how you can deemed them great. I also saw Ricky Brooks and still know the sox are high on him even if he was overhyped. I miss the old JPN when he had no idea that he was a rare guy watching Baron games and he just "watched" the games. No doubt I'm not perfect in judging right either and if I was I would be a scout. Said it in the past I thought Jeremy Reed when gonna be a star (especially when he signed a baseball for me when I went down to Birmingham for a family reunion and fell in love with him ) and of course that never happened, but the old' "oh you don't know anything cause you haven't seen them play" only works to some degree with posters. I never said I hated Beckham coming out of college, I admitted that I didn't know anything about him and that I had tunnel vision in regards to Justin Smoak. As you can see, I've fully embraced my dumbass statement during the 2008 draft. I felt like an idiot about that during the 2008 College World Series, let alone the crow I ate on that one this year. When it comes to certain players, I think they should be retained as AAA players, expecially in the case of David Cook, Lee Cruz and Robbie Hudson. It's difficult not to like David Cook, who's hit 125 homeruns in the minors and has major league power. I just want him to get a chance...anywhere. I don't know who you think I've deemed "great," I only talk about what I see and what potential there is. I don't understand why you're accusing me of being pompous, I attend almosy every Barons game and I was asked to write about it as frequently as possible on Future Sox and here. I've been inundated with questions about the players since April. I have seen them play in person more than anyone, that's just a statement of fact. I never said you don't know anything, I just asked if you had seen them play. A simple question. You could have asked in the first place why I included them on my list and we could have discussed it without strife. I don't understand this comment at all..."I miss the old JPN when he had no idea that he was a rare guy watching Baron games and he just "watched" the games." I wasn't the first person on this board who was a season ticket holder with the Barons. People have been asking my opinion all year, what exactly would you like me to do? If I'm excited by what I see in a player, I want to share it with you guys so you can get excited too. Where's the harm in that? Things were different this year with all the scrutiny on the Barons. That's not my fault. I've just tried to be a gateway of information to everybody. Let's keep in mind that I am in no way a professional scout, nor would I want to be. So my opinion is just that, an opinion. My observations are just that, observations. I've been asked to share them, don't point a finger at me and accuse me of being a smug know it all. I'm just passionate about minor league baseball and I support the guys who play their butts off who deserve a chance. You can't discount all but a few of the minor leaguers just because they're not super studs. 4 out 6 teams made the playoffs and won a lot of games during the year. I think that means the Sox have a lot of talent in the system to choose from.

QUOTE (Kenny Hates Prospects @ Sep 30, 2009 -> 12:40 PM) lol What?

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Sep 30, 2009 -> 09:40 AM) How do you plan to fit that many guys into, I'd guess, about 5 open slots that will be around to work with by December? I didn't say all of them, those would be the list I'd work from though. Narrowed down from the rest.

QUOTE (scenario @ Sep 30, 2009 -> 09:25 AM) Keep in mind that with Omogrosso's injury, he's not going to pitch next year. Didn't know a torn labrum would cause him to miss all of 2010. Well, exclude him from my list.

QUOTE (Kenny Hates Prospects @ Sep 29, 2009 -> 07:33 PM) Which ones would you add to the 40-man though, JPN? Most of those guys won't get claimed by anyone anyway, not even in the minor league phase. Brandon Hynick Brian Omogrosso Christian Marrero John Shelby Stefan Gartrell Miguel Socolovich Luis Sierra Jake Rasner Derek Rodriguez David Cook Ehren Wassermann Josh Kroeger Wes Whisler Carlos Torres Cole Armstrong Lucas Harrell Fernando Hernandez

QUOTE (SoxAce @ Sep 30, 2009 -> 12:09 AM) Ew.. Have you watched them play???

QUOTE (Kenny Hates Prospects @ Sep 29, 2009 -> 07:33 PM) And I know you like David Cook, but you know the Sox don't, so wouldn't you rather see him get an opportunity elsewhere? Of course, I almost told him that myself.

Rule V eligible (* if currently on 40 man and protected): Brandon Hynick KEEP Brian Omogrosso KEEP Kyle McCulloch CUT Matt Long KEEP Christian Marrero KEEP KEEP KEEP Anthony Carter KEEP John Shelby KEEP Justin Cassel MEH Lee Cruz KEEP Tyson Corley KEEP Stefan Gartrell KEEP KEEP KEEP Jordan Cheatham MEH Robbie Hudson KEEP CJ Lang KEEP Ricky Brooks MEH Jacob Marceaux MEH Ryan Rote CUT Miguel Socolovich KEEP Justin Fuller MEH Michael Grace RETIRED Salvador Sanchez KEEP Luis Sierra RESIGNED Jake Rasner KEEP James Albury KEEP Johny Celis KEEP Orlando Santos MEH Joucer Martinez MEH Derek Rodriguez KEEP Charlis Burdie KEEP Minor League FA's: Johnny Lujan MEH Javier Colina KEEP Jared Price KEEP Adam Ricks MEH Matt Zaleski KEEP Andy Cannizaro MEH Wilson Betemit CUT Keith Ginter CUT Justin Knoedler KEEP Brian Myrow TRADED Miguel Negron KEEP Andy Phillips RELEASED Mike Restovich MEH Eider Torres KEEP Kelvin Jimenez MEH Jon Van Benschoten CUT Sergio Santos CUT CUT CUT Ryan Braun MEH David Cook KEEP KEEP KEEP Ehren Wassermann KEEP Fernando Hernandez KEEP KEEP KEEP Josh Kroeger KEEP Donny Lucy MEH David Cook KEEP AGAIN Wes Whisler KEEP Carlos Torres* KEEP KEEP KEEP Cole Armstrong* KEEP OR TRADE Lucas Harrell*** KEEP Ehren Wassermann KEEP Fernando Hernandez KEEP AGAIN

Mike Grace retired, Luis Sierra was resigned. Kyle Aselton and Mike Johnston were cut loose during the season.

It worked out for Charlie Haeger, maybe it will for Jack too.

Too bad, Eg's a nice guy. But, he'd probably run out time in this organization and at least for him he'll be closer to home. Good Luck, Jack!

QUOTE (Kenny Hates Prospects @ Sep 24, 2009 -> 02:08 PM) I know you want to see him go to the pen JPN, but I'm not sure that would work with Lucas. He seems to me like the type of guy that, if he's going to make it, he'll be the type that will struggle a bit with command the first couple innings and raise his pitch count before settling in later on. But I do hope that if the organization doesn't have plans for him as a starter they will at least try him in a bullpen role before sending him out. They must like the guy because he's been on the 40-man roster for the last two years. It's not that I want him to become a reliever, I just think that it would be good for him long term. That would be good for his shoulder and arm.

QUOTE (Kenny Hates Prospects @ Sep 24, 2009 -> 01:40 PM) Oooh, JPN how is he looking? I'm still a fan of his. Fastball's good, offspeed command is shaky. But, he did come in without warming up and had to take a few minutes to get loose.

Tony Pena.