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QUOTE (Con te Giolito @ Dec 25, 2016 -> 11:38 AM) Hahn cannot wait to trade Quintana. If they wait until the deadline they may not find a suitor and then you're trying to move him in a free agent market overloaded with very good starters. A year from now they won't get half of what would be considered a low return now. Either they deal him this offseason or they keep him for the next 4 years. Couldn't disagree more. It's all speculation dude. Half a year of Samdazjiezyeahhh got the top SS prospect in the game, the number four prospect in baseball at the time. No one knows what we could get now, or at the deadline, or next year, or in three years. Only thing that isn't speculative is this: if Quintana keeps pitching the way he has - he'll always be in demand and will always command a haul.

QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 25, 2016 -> 10:33 AM) That article showed quite a shallow understanding of everything going on. "Let's try and get hits not by perpetuating rumors but by talking smack about rumors."

QUOTE (reiks12 @ Dec 25, 2016 -> 09:58 AM) I just want to get on with my life.. find a girl and a job and settle down.. maybe get a dog For some reason that sounds like a movie quote

Why hasn't a deal been announced this morning already? What the f***... not like anything is going on.

QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Dec 24, 2016 -> 10:51 PM) Can i play Hawk for a minute? I don't give a yahoo about the defensive "stats" Stoney, because those still have a long way to go to catch up to their offensive counterparts. I'll tell you one thing. Todd Frazier is a championship third baseman on a contender. He gets his butt down on every pitch and he'll get every routine ball hit his way. He can even sprinkle in some big-time plays at some really big times. Is he Nolan Arenado or Adrian Beltre over there? No. But he's a chanpionship third baseman. Lotta teams at the deadline with a hole over there will be looking for a guy like that. Mercy!

Merry Christmas all - guess our present in a Q trade will come late this year. Sad panda.

QUOTE (Fantl916 @ Dec 24, 2016 -> 10:05 PM) Yep that's the one. Rookie ball stats ftw!!! A snippet on him from baseball prospectus: 2016 Stats: .271/.359/.449, 8 HR, 15 SB in 62 games at short-season Bluefield The Good: He doesn’t look like his father, and putting a Hall of Fame comp on him, bloodlines or no, would be irresponsible. However you’d be forgiven, if you caught Vladito on the right day, for seeing a bit of the same controlled violence that marked his father’s swing. He already has plus raw as a teenager, and it isn’t hard to see him finding another grade of raw as he enters his twenties. He has enough feel for the barrel, even when swinging out of his shoes like his pops, to make the power play in games too. The Bad: I do wonder if he rates as highly on this list with a different last name, although baseball bloodlines can be important. I guess you can dream big and imagine Vlad, Jr. one day hitting like his father, but that is where the comp will have to end. He’s already a large human being, with a very thick midsection and lower half. At 17. He’s likely a first baseman in the end and that will put an awful lot of pressure on the offensive profile to have a strong patrilineal influence. The stolen bases are more an artifact of every Tom, Dick, and Vladdy being able to steal in the low minors. He’s already a below-average runne The Role: OFP 60—Above-average major league first baseman Likely 45—Second-division starter at first base The Risks: Vladito’s precocious performance as a 17-year-old in the Appalachian League is nice and all, but he’s still a future first baseman in short-season ball. This could go any which way in the coming years. Major league ETA: 2021 Groovy, thanks for the continued education. +1 Isn't it just wonderful how conflicting scouting reports can be.

QUOTE (Fantl916 @ Dec 24, 2016 -> 09:44 PM) Vlad Guerrero jr Oh, you mean the 3rd baseman who had 15 stolen bases in like 60 games?

QUOTE (Fantl916 @ Dec 24, 2016 -> 09:30 PM) So in your quest for bats you'd rather have a rookie ball 1b w no speed who's 4 years away at best... over most the others? Vlad jr is not his dad. Personally I'd rather have pieces that will help in the next 1-2.5 years. Basabe is prob 2.5 away... add another 1.5 to vlad jr. Quintanas contract would expire before he sees the majors Get prospects that come thru in the same wave, will lead to a faster turnaround Who's this rookie ball first baseman with no speed that you speak of?

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Dec 24, 2016 -> 04:01 PM) Truth, this is. Thanks Yoda. Edit: 13 plus years here and it's the first time I've ever had to use that feature. I'm f***ing bats*** crazy guys and readily admit it.

Finally figured out how to find the damned thing. 402 pages. What the hell man - that's insane that I remembered that. Thanks for nothing Quinarvy.

QUOTE (BRIRO2017 @ Dec 24, 2016 -> 03:31 PM) Didn't you post in it? Look it up I have no idea how to find old posts like that - only see old game posts in the archives. I'm in the running for "duh award of the day".

QUOTE (BRIRO2017 @ Dec 24, 2016 -> 03:23 PM) Bout tree fiddy I thought it was 402 but am not certain and it's driving me batty. Edit: or 401 Yea, see.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Dec 24, 2016 -> 03:12 PM) Now let it be real already. Yea... same. Soooooo how many pages are on that cespedes thread? It's seriously been bugging me for hours.

QUOTE (Blackout Friday @ Dec 24, 2016 -> 03:08 PM) Pirates fans and bloggers seem pretty reasonable overall. I'd be very happy with that offer, despite preferring Meadows. Yea... same.

http://www.outsidepitchmlb.com/michael-con...york-mets/59071 Duh award of the day.

Reading material for family eggnoging http://www.thepointofpittsburgh.com/the-pi...-jose-quintana/ Edit: they suggest Glasnow, Bell, and Newman

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Dec 24, 2016 -> 12:36 PM) J4L, Q and Rabbit are just meanies. That's all I have to add. you suck.

Merry pooping Christmas.

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Dec 24, 2016 -> 10:56 AM) Where did you see this? His brain?

QUOTE (Saufley @ Dec 24, 2016 -> 10:42 AM) Question about yesterday's rumors/talks about Sox/Pitt/NYY trade talks. Were there actual talks between the three teams regarding a trade? Seems another website flatly denies the three team talks and believes it was all fabricated. Just wondering? Thanks. raBBit said a few pages back that he firmly believes the talks were had but doubts the deal goes down.

QUOTE (BRIRO2017 @ Dec 24, 2016 -> 10:44 AM) Hey I agree with you. This should be fun. But reading poop every message makes it hard to take you seriously lol. It is fun. The mods are grand. Soxtalk is better than any social media platform. Don't take me seriously. Kudos. ( The peanut butter variety. )

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Dec 24, 2016 -> 10:36 AM) @SoxTalk Quintana likely to be traded some time in career #Rumors #DamnHolidays Whoever posted that wins the offseason.

QUOTE (BRIRO2017 @ Dec 24, 2016 -> 10:16 AM) I should have just asked why all his posts say that word. I didn't have a clue lol It's been a running joke on myself by myself for almost 15 years now. Soxtalk for me is something I take very lightly but also use as an outlet for our common passion. Last year about this time I was pooping the place up too much. It tends to happen during he offseason lull - I begin losing my mind, as you can clearly see by now.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Dec 24, 2016 -> 10:31 AM) Nah, Rowand sux But... how many pages man????