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I was actually thinking about making a similar post. Some of the guys over at Red Sox forum say that they will take Jenks on a two year deal (albeit they would prefer 1 year) instead all the MR (Crain, Guerrier) getting 3 year deals.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Dec 16, 2010 -> 03:02 PM) I just want to say, I think Cowley has been the best Sox related reporter all off-season. Sarcasm? I used to hate the guy too, but actually grew to like him a bit. People sometimes take what he says too personally, for example when he tweeted "the kids can play II".. anyone ever think that at the time it looked like Sox are making no moves and were considering rebuilding?

QUOTE (chw42 @ Dec 16, 2010 -> 01:21 PM) This has to be the highest payroll in team history. I think 08 was pretty close to this figure, but wasn't that around $121 million with money from the Phillies for Thome and some other stuff? Yup, somewhere I read today it is/will be the highest by 12 million pending a salary dump move of course.

sportsguy33 Bill Simmons My fan side: "Jermaine O'Neal II." My saber side: "Good gamble! Very unlucky in 2010!" RT @Buster_ESPN Red Sox: 2 yrs $12m for Bobby Jenks. LoL I like Simmons but he is a homer when it comes to NE teams.

Screw him, he said publicly he doesn't want to play for the White Sox. Want no part of that tool.

QUOTE (bear_brian @ Dec 16, 2010 -> 08:29 AM) I have been thinking for some time now that KW has been trying to get finalization out of Danks - either get him to sign an extension, or move him now. What about Danks and Quentin to the Dodgers for Matt Kemp and a reliever (my fantasy is Broxton, but that is far-fetched)? Sale goes to the rotation. This all assumes that Peavy will come back healthy. A different scenario would be Peavy and Quentin, but not as sure Dodgers would bite on that one. I don't think Dodgers would want to touch Peavy's contract.

QUOTE (beckham15 @ Dec 16, 2010 -> 08:17 AM) i would consider signing webb but more than likely a trade would have to be made to free up $$ Could be a great alternative if they decided to trade Jackson (frees up some salary) for pieces that will help in the future like a leadoff LF/RF or catching prospect if they are done with Flowers.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Dec 16, 2010 -> 08:09 AM) Wait a minute? KW had the media writing about them being interested in Wood to force the Cubs to sign Webb? How does that make any sense? to force the Cubs to sign Wood, so they back off Webb. Just my scenario.

I for one think the Sale is the closer and it's all but official, I've been saying this since last year. If Peavy isn't healthy come April is there a chance Sox signs a pitcher on a incetive deal someone that give them flexibility to fill in for Peavy or go to the bullpen or even be traded at the deadline for pieces? One name that comes to my mind is Brandon Webb, however, I have no idea what kind of money he is looking to get. It has been mentioned Cubs were looking at Webb and that's why I think Kenny had the media writing about Sox being interested in Wood, trying to force the Cubs to sign him. Of course I could be way off on this.

I've ventured over at the Twins board and they aren't exactly crying after the Crain signing, if anything they are pissed he signed with the Sox. I like this deal I guess, I hope he won't be another Liney, and he is younger than Guerrier so that's a plus.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Dec 16, 2010 -> 07:38 AM) I agree completely. I was content with the 'pen as is before the Crain signing. Now with Crain in place, I think the potential for the 'pen to be well above average is there. I'd rather not dish out another multi-year deal to another reliever (Wood). Let's see if for once we can produce one (Infante, Carter, Bellamy). As for the premise of the thread, I've made it pretty well known that I wasn't satisfied with the direction the team looked to be headed in. And I'm still skeptical that will ever be able to go on a sustained run with our inability to produce from within. But as far as 2011 goes, we should be pretty damn good. And if we could get rid of JP, I'd give up booze forever. Damn when did Jake Peavy piss in your cereal ?

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Dec 16, 2010 -> 04:13 AM) .100 is a good batting average. More than an hour before Gammons.

Not sure if Wood signed with Cubs yet but if that happens I think Kenny leaked info about Sox being interested and forced Cubs hand to sign Wood.

QUOTE (Ranger @ Dec 15, 2010 -> 11:05 PM) That was true. There were two offseason plans presented to ownership. One was to see how many parts they could dump, the other is what they're doing now. I'm gonna go ahead and add that Cowley did call the Crain deal minutes before Gammons. #justsayin

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Dec 15, 2010 -> 04:31 PM) I actually thought about him, but we're kinda money in terms of lefties, and he's the very definition of LOOGY. You're right. Meanwhile.. Brian Anderson, Andy Sisco, Neal Cotts and Gustavo Molina all one-time White Sox among Yankees' non-roster invitees to 2011 ST Per Scott Merkin

Pedro Feliciano another name worth looking at.

Actually there is few more than interesting names out there still.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Dec 15, 2010 -> 03:17 PM) Umm, you are completely off the rocker. You want to make a bet here? This has to be one of the most ridiculous statements I've EVER seen. I donno, Carlos Santana is a STUD in the making. Hopefully that injury won't have any negative effects. Not sure if I make that bet but it's def not ridiculous.

Catchers: Henry Blanco - 1 year, 1M, Diamondbacks Gerald Laird - 1 year, 1M, Cardinals Miguel Olivo - 2 year, 7M, Mariners Jason Varitek -1 year, 2M, Red Sox David Ross - thought he signed an extension in July for 2 more years with Braves. Firstbasemen: Lyle Overbay - 1 year, 5M, Pirates These need updating from the top of my head, anyone else wanna take a stab at the rest?

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Dec 15, 2010 -> 02:28 PM) Anyone thinking that Kenny Williams' saying this and then it being used as a slogan isn't just a big marketing ploy is foolish. The Sox aren't going to change much drastically from where they are right now. There will be a few non-roster invitees to Spring Training, we'll hear how one has awesome "stuff" and then hope someone can get outs in a pretty bad bullpen until Peavy gets back. Even when Peavy gets back it's gonna be a pretty bad bullpen with Thrornton, Sale, Santos, Pena and 3 holes. No way in hell we should have 3 holes in the bullpen, this is going to be a bigger fiasco than Mark Kotsay last year.

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Dec 15, 2010 -> 01:08 PM) Why is it so bad that he would play minor league ball for a year and a half? To my knowledge he is only like 21 years old. But I would really hope Kenny could get Romine and Gardner for something like Floyd and Quentin. And that trade only makes sense if he then trades Romine to get us a stud pitcher. Once again, this team is better with Floyd in the rotation and Quentin, than Gardner and a nobody.

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Dec 15, 2010 -> 12:56 PM) With the Yankees signing Russell Martin, it makes even more sense for the Yankees to use Montero/Romine as trade bait. Come on Kenny, offer up Floyd! And how exactly does that make us a better team in 2011 ? Can either one of them pitch?

QUOTE (bschmaranz @ Dec 15, 2010 -> 12:18 PM) At this point you'd have to think he's looking for nothing but bargain bin relievers. EDIT: 1000th post, only took 6 and a half years! Congrats. Yup, unless we wanna offer Trevor Hoffman the league minimum and hope he bites. /half-green

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Dec 15, 2010 -> 12:17 PM) So then what the hell does "All In" mean? If you're going for it all this year, as their marketing campaign suggests, why would you let $4M prevent you from having a serviceable bullpen? Maybe they're waiting on people to start buying season tickets hoping this will free up some salary. Heck if I know, and Putz/Guerrier aside, Rich Harden just signed a contract with the A's for 1.5M. Now I'm not his biggest fan but Sox could've had him, plug him in as a 5th starter if Peavy isn't ready and if Peavy is ready then you make him a reliever on a incentive driven deal just like the A's did. Meanwhile.. Kenny is waiting and names are slowly coming off the market.