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QUOTE (ptatc @ Feb 18, 2011 -> 07:59 PM) Seemed to work for Buerhle. Many pitchers start off in the pen and become starters later. One reason is to learn to pitch to MLB hitters in contolled, hand picked situations before they need to face everyone. QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Feb 18, 2011 -> 04:32 PM) Buehrle started 30 minor league games over 1 1/2 seasons before being called up and relieving for half a season. By the start of 2012, Sale will have started exactly 0 minor league games and logged 1 1/2 seasons in the bullpen. I think Buehrle's 30 games started and 1 1/2 years or starting in the minors helped him make that change. Sale will have 0 games started and 0 years of starting before he makes the change.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Feb 18, 2011 -> 04:27 PM) Well, considering 99% of couples have premarital sex (with one another) these days, the wedding night is not quite what it used to be in that regard. Not me. I am getting my monies worth out of that mail-order bride.

QUOTE (flavum @ Feb 18, 2011 -> 03:59 PM) The other night, Al Leiter cited Alexei's error total, and said that his defense would have to improve if he's going to be higher on the shortstop list. Yikes.

QUOTE (TomPickle @ Feb 18, 2011 -> 05:16 PM) Uhh...no he wasn't. Sorry, 6 years. Point is still the same.

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Feb 18, 2011 -> 04:31 PM) A lot of people would die.

QUOTE (gatnom @ Feb 18, 2011 -> 04:41 PM) However, I think people around here need to stop pretending like 2012 doesn't exist as if we were in some bad movie about Mayan prophecies. We might have quite a few question marks in next year's rotation when you consider Buehrle and Jackson being in their last years and Peavy's injury concerns (and John Danks's contract down the line for that matter). I would not be surprised at all to see Sale fall of a cliff towards the end of next year because he's just not used to pitching many innings, and of course there are also the studies that show a large increase in innings pitched has a correlation to arm injuries. Obviously, nobody really knows what will happen next year, but this logic of "the next year doesn't matter because we're still in this year" is the exact reason we have a bereft farm system and had to spend an extra $30 million on this year's payroll to compete.

QUOTE (knightni @ Feb 18, 2011 -> 03:31 PM) I'm saying that those three guys pitched in the bullpen for one year, yet they were still fine with becoming a starter the following year. Buehrle started 30 minor league games over 1 1/2 seasons before being called up and relieving for half a season. By the start of 2012, Sale will have started exactly 0 minor league games and logged 1 1/2 seasons in the bullpen. I think Buehrle's 30 games started and 1 1/2 years or starting in the minors helped him make that change. Sale will have 0 games started and 0 years of starting before he makes the change. And Adam Wainright was a starter in the minors for 6 years before getting called up and pitching 1 year of relief.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Feb 18, 2011 -> 04:11 PM) No, neither of us know if this will help or hinder his development as a starter but I do know that this is the best situation for our team this year so it makes the most sense by far. I don't think anyone is arguing that this is the best choice for 2011 (actually, him starting for Peavy, and then going to the bullpen is probably the best situation for 2011), it's the debate about if this sacrifices our future or not. You (probably) don't think it does, while I on the other hand think it will. That's the only issue at hand.

QUOTE (Cali @ Feb 18, 2011 -> 03:06 PM) They are doing Top 100 players in baseball right now... #48 - Adam Dunn #47 - Paul Konerko I have a feeling those might be the only representative's the Sox will have Yeah, I would think so. Can't believe Alexei wasn't listed between 49-100. He is vastly underrated it seems.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Feb 18, 2011 -> 03:10 PM) Because putting the 2011 team in the best position to win games is just terrible. .....and around in circles we go.....

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Feb 18, 2011 -> 02:50 PM) It's not that you think it's bad, that's your opinion. It's that you keep talking about it like it's sure to derail his career and that everyone else is a moron for not believing that. Ok.

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Feb 18, 2011 -> 02:07 PM) No, but we'll take the words and actions of the professionals whose careers revolve around these types of decisions. You, on the other hand, act as if there is no way that they're right. No one knows if they are right or wrong for many years and we can look back at Sale's career. But for the meantime, I think it's an awful plan.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Feb 18, 2011 -> 11:20 AM) And you have no idea if this is true. And you have no idea that this won't delay his progress as a starting pitcher either.

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Feb 17, 2011 -> 06:16 PM) And an extremely happy day for people who value the chance to win in 2011. Sure, better for 2011, and worse for 2012 and 2013 and so on. Maybe it's just me, but I'd rather be better or 2012 and beyond than just 2011. Meh, I mean, we went with a DH by committee last year, so I am not always shocked by bad player management.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Feb 17, 2011 -> 04:58 PM) Oh, and the only one Yahoo has of Garcia so far. That's more sweat that usual for Freddy.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Feb 17, 2011 -> 03:58 PM) Kinda does. I think his jersey is just unbuttoned though. I know I was kidding, but I thought the Herm Schneider look was funny to me.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Feb 17, 2011 -> 03:55 PM) This kinda saddens me. I think Sale will do fine. Be it a set-up role or closer. I think if he flourishes that will be too chicken s*** to move him to the rotation. JMO. Yep. Today is a sad, sad day for those of us who value starting pitching.

AJ looks like he gained about 40 pounds around the waist.

QUOTE (danman31 @ Feb 17, 2011 -> 12:56 AM) Yes. I was agreeing with you, but was basically saying I don't think what you said about Escobar was bold. I'd say that's fairly likely. Probably, especially with Alexei and Beckham locked in for the next 4 years.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Feb 16, 2011 -> 09:44 AM) From the looks of this thread, Soxtalkers are Facebook creeping her. Congrats on getting married, btw. Hey man, I was friends with her for a while, and then didn't even realize we weren't friends anymore until this thread when I wanted to see some wedding pics and congratulate her. So.....yeah.....

QUOTE (danman31 @ Feb 16, 2011 -> 10:59 PM) I can agree with that, but I think Escobar has enough value to simply be average this year and still get traded. The fact that so many people are talking him up makes me think it's more likely Kenny will use this bloated value to try and get bloated return on him. Without getting into "the debate", I think he did the same thing with Hudson, and probably Jeremy Reed before him.

Phillip Humber will dominate in AAA, and Andy Wilkins will catapult himself into everyone's prospect list. Eduardo Escobar will do well enough to get traded.

Actually, I always found Harold Reynolds as a "pro" White Sox guy. He was raving on and on about Beckham last year, and he even picked Beckham for the future "All-Decade" team at 2B for 2010-2019, better than the likes of Utley, Kinsler, Cano, Pedroia, etc.

Also, Mr. Dunn is going to put a ball on the fan deck in center, making us forget about Jim Thome's long blasts.

I'm going to say that Morel has a better season than Beckham did in 2009, but of course falls short of the ROY award because of some A's reliever.