Kenny Hates Prospects

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 19, 2010 -> 02:09 PM) Hafner is a great example of the dangers of giving players big contracts. Sub the word "players" with "roiders" and I'll agree.

If Kotsay and Jones really suck hard early on, and if we can't make a deal, I'd rather just move Quentin to DH to rest him and call up D2 so we can go with defense while working on acquiring a DH (or another position player who would push someone else to DH). Realistically I can see Jones/Kotsay producing something like a .255/.325/.410/.735 line combined, but not a whole lot better than that. Hopefully Jones shocks the world and stops sucking.

CC looked like he was going through the motions to me. He looked better simply because he was fighting a guy who didn't bring it and who doesn't belong in the UFC to begin with. CC's killer instinct is gone and without that there's really nothing left. He just looked like he wanted to win each exchange for as long as possible until the time expired. But anyway, back to EBM...

QUOTE (MHizzle85 @ Feb 21, 2010 -> 11:16 AM) As much as I'd love to keep EBM talk going, we've got a PPV from last night to discuss boys! - Cro Cop looked alright. I'd like to see him in there against someone more prepared though. - I like Bader so last night was a good step in his career, not completely sold on him though. - Sotiropoulos/Stevenson easily had the fight of the night, just crazy fun jiu-jitsu - Bisping will be the equivalent of a mid-carder in pro wrestling. He's gonna lose to guys that are better than him & beat the guys he should. - I think KHP was the Cain non-believer. I hope you believe now sir. It's hard now to say what you do with Big Nog. I wouldn't say he's gotta retire now, but the countdown clock has now started. MHizzle, you always tell me this about Cain every time he wins. Nog was the first guy Cain has ever fought in his career that was a tough matchup for him. He showed improvement on the feet, and he did impress me, but my opinion of him has never changed. He's a very good fighter, a top-10 guy definitely. But he's waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay overhyped still and will continue to be. Miguel Torres called him the next great HW and his camp hypes him as the future of the sport at HW. LMAO, no f***ing way, he's too small. That might be true if the UFC brings in a 230lb class but there's no way he's out-muscling Lesnar and probably not Carwin either. Cain MAY get the next crack at Lesnar, and if he does, you'll see exactly what I've been the whole time. Lesnar will trounce him, and if Fedor ever comes to the UFC Fedor will light him up like a f***ing Christmas tree. So again, I don't think I ever said Cain sucked or that he wasn't any good. My problems with him are 1) his excessive hype, and 2) that ignorant-ass tattoo on his chest, no matter how much he defends it.

Jesus Christ http://amberlamps.co.cc/pics.html Someone needs to find this girl and get her the hell out of this country, and quick.

QUOTE (MattZakrowski @ Feb 21, 2010 -> 09:16 AM) Mark Kotsay +1

QUOTE (zenryan @ Feb 20, 2010 -> 06:16 PM) KHP---did you see the thread on the OG where the 4chan crew is harassing the girl who took the video. They got her email,her name,her address,etc. Not yet, haven't been the OG yet. But I know people are going after the white girl with the headphones that they apparently call Amber Lamps. The internet should just leave these people alone. EBM wouldn't condone this s***. He's all about taking murderers off the street, not harrassing innocent people. And even if the girl who took the video is a racist b****, then still, leave her alone anyway. For Kyyle, here's the Dan Quinn video I was talking about: I would post the video but I'm honestly not all that great at the internet and I don't know how. Dan Quinn has been around for years making s***ty Youtube videos, and on the MMA forums he constantly disappears and reappears as a topic of conversation. If you don't know the backstory, he claims to be the Angel Maitreya. He thinks his hands are as fast as Ali's, and I think his uncle once tied him to a tree or something. He ranted about that once, I think while talking about aliens and the pyramids. But he's in his 40's and is bats*** crazy. He lives with his mom and makes Youtube videos caling people out (he actually fights professionally in really small shows and has a loss to Frank Mir on his record). There's this natural plant called stevia which is used as a sweetener all over the world, but mostly in the Far East. Dan Quinn believes this plant is the secret to everything, including building spaceships, losing weight, curing cancer in cats, etc. Pretty much anything you can think of. He believes his mission is to send the message of stevia and its powers to everyone in the world, and somehow this will get him billions of dollars. He even once called into the Alex Jones show to spread his message (Alex Jones if you don't know is a conspiracy theorist radio show host) that the governments are hiding the power of stevia from the public. Dan Quinn's secret to long-lasting life and great health is to take pure H2O (plain filtered tap water is good enough) and put it in a blender with stevia. The resulting foam is actually "soap" that is hidden in the water, and in order to gain super powers you have to clear off the foam and drink the pure H2O with stevia in it. I know this sounds stupid, but this guy believes all this, and it goes much, much deeper. He's crazier than any crazy out there. He has a prescription for medical marijuana and his idea of training for a fight is to take pure H2O/stevia water and put it in a used gatorade bottle with marijuana tea or something. Honestly I think he's mixing his stevia with bong water and drinking it, really. But anyway, most of his videos are kind of dumb, but every now and then a really good one will pop up where he goes on rants and reveals embarrassing details of his life while threatening people. So check this one out, and that's a little backstory so you can better understand what is going on.

I could literally spend hours talking about EBM. If I could get a degree in Epic Beard Manology I would. The EBM speaks video is f***ing great for anyone who hasn't seen it. EBM is interviewed and talks about how IKYANT was a murderer and a theif and a rapist and a bunch of other things too, and EBM humbly explains how he doesn't deserve all the attention, he was just doing the right thing by taking a murderer off the streets. EBM goes on about other things too, such as his ability to throw combos like Ali and how IKYANT was knocked out for 22 1/2 minutes. There's a brief period where EBM shows how sweet of a man he is at heart, as he nearly breaks down talking about how his mother died just a couple days before the bus fight. But EBM, with heart torn to shreds, managed to gather himself and beat the f*** out of IKYANT for all of our betterment. EBM is a f***ing hero, no s***. BTW Kyyle, are you into the Dan Quinn videos too? I used to subscribe to his Youtube channel and, if you know which ones to look for, some are truly classic. There's one where he's yelling at his mom in the car. Please tell me you've seen this, and if not, I'll find the link.

QUOTE (ptatc @ Feb 19, 2010 -> 03:35 PM) KW said there is always another move to make. There was no money for Matsui or Johnson because they are strictly DH's and don't fit into the philosophy the Sox are going with this year. Damon would still have allowed them to rotate players between the DH, OF and 1B. This would not be possible with the other two. THE WHITE SOX ARE NOT GOING TO SIGN A DH ONLY PLAYER. Then why did Kenny meet with Matsui and talk him up, then say we couldn't afford him? Why did it come out that the Sox went after Johnson but couldn't match the Yankees? I side with the other poster who said the Sox probably offered their midseason acquisition money to Damon. But even if that is true, it still shows how crappy their plan is because going after Damon last-minute shows they have no confidence in it, especially if they were offering emergency fallback money. And BTW, Matsui can play LF probably about as well as Damon can. Neither belong out there and Damon in LF with Pierre in CF while Rios gets a day off is no freakin' picnic as it is. And then CQ lumbering around in RF. Yuck. Plus Kotsay is the backup 1B. Damon is realistically just about as versatile as Johnson or Matsui. They're all DHs who belong at DH, and the only reason we wanted Damon was because of his bat, not his so-called versatility. The speed factor is probably a major part of it too.

QUOTE (JoeBatterz @ Feb 19, 2010 -> 03:28 PM) I agree with this. I always look for it at the top and then have to find it down here. I may not post a lot here, but I read it quite a bit. You should. Besides, sometimes this thing dies for a while and it needs to stay afloat. Even if you don't want to post about MMA specifically, just post about something else and relate it to MMA. Like, "I saw a dead deer on the side of the road today. It's head was splattered all over the place, and that kind of made me think about what Bisping is going to look like after Wand gets through with him tomorrow."

Friday is the new Sunday. If we have $6M then not only did Kenny lie about not being able to afford Matsui or Johnson, but he way overstated how broke the Sox were. And there's no f***ing way Damon was going to bring in more revenue than Mr. Japanese Baseball Hideki Matsui.

QUOTE (bmags @ Feb 19, 2010 -> 12:42 PM) Yes, but our contract guarantees that you will in fact see people walking around in the city Refugees are people too, ya know...

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Feb 19, 2010 -> 12:54 PM) LOL, you are now EKHP I can only wish...

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Feb 19, 2010 -> 12:27 PM) honestly, IKYANT was about 8 inches shorter and gave up about 80-100 lbs to EBM. WTF was he thinking. Old or not, EBM has a crazy look and manner to him, you just dont push a guy like that. EBM even removed himself from the situation at first and went to the front of the bus, IKYANT thought he could just keep talking s*** Yeah, EBM is the kind of dude that you'll see walking down the street and then for no reason he'll just walk over to some trash cans and start rummaging through them. Don't f*** with people like that. And the size advantage, you're totally right. EBM would have been -1000 at least on Bodog, maybe even -1100 on BetUS had they hyped that fight beforehand and put it on a major card. EBM knows full well that discretion is the better part of valor, and it's just one of the things that makes EBM so E. The other thing is that, by the beard, you can tell this guy has spent more than his share of time on a boat. Maybe he was in the Navy, maybe he did some of that crab fishing in Alaska like on TV back in his childhood (before Alaska was cold), or maybe he was even a pirate, or some sort of captain. But we can gather that there's a very good chance EBM spent lots of time living on a boat, and that's some bad f***in' news for some land-lubber like IKYANT who only knows how to fight on stupid public transit. EBM probably did his training on the 7 seas fighting off mutinies, so you know those legs are going to be good even on s***ty roads, and those hips are going to swivel and he's going to be able to land some serious f***in' power punches. Meanwhile IKYANT is just a noob in bus fights. ERBC needs to find a new man if she ever hopes to settle the score with EBM.

It's hard to tell about the origin of the fight, but ERBC (evil racist black chick) started being evil and racist, and apparently knew IKYANT (I'll kick your ass next time), so I imagine EBM was defending himself against yet another person with a broken racism detector. But EBM is definitely bat s*** crazy, so even if EBM does have some blame in this, his crazy power pretty much absolves him of any responsibility. And regardless, IKYANT is the one who got in EBM's face, and we all know what happens when you f*** with EBM.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Feb 19, 2010 -> 11:04 AM) Nobody debated if wrestling is real or not. However, as a Pub discussion, it rates pretty high. Love the AV and love that video. Agree, epic beard man is epic. And that other guy looked like an oversized Beetlejuice from the Stern show.

I was just talking the other day about how pro-wrestling should actually be an olympic sport. I mean seriously, if all this other s*** can be olympic sports, then why not pro-wrestling? They're talented athletes (some of the time) still competing against each other, albeit in a roundabout way. If pro-wrestlers can put on individual performances that are meant to be judged objectively by promoters and fans, then why not just replace the promoters and fans with real olympic judges? Do it like a triathlon. Have a mic work part, then an acting part, then a part where they perform moves on each other to see who can make the smoothest-looking moves without hurting each other, and then in the end they can do tricks off the top rope and stuff, and take chairshots and swear at each other. I'd actually watch that, and besides, all that really matters in the end is how many chicken mcnuggets McDonalds can sell.

Thank you, Mr. Raines. Agree, back on topic please.

This is weird. I hate reality TV with a passion, but this will have Ozzie on it. I'm torn.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Feb 19, 2010 -> 11:33 AM) I will stick by any of our loyal posters with information. You have a problem with the sources of a guy that has been great at sharing info with all of us when he hasn't and I'll freaking always defend those guys. I see how ripped to shreds the Chicago Media figures get when they report a rumor and it doesn't come true. You know why, because it is a rumor, talks are going on, it isn't that, oh the deal is done, etc. Plus, as someone that has talked and has contacts as well, I can tell you sometimes a source knows something, sometimes they don't, sometimes what they might hear could already be dead, you have no idea, but when you get the info, its nice to pass it along cause it actually gives you a better eye into what the Sox are looking at. You going off on Rock doesn't make it easy for people with quality info and a proven track-record to go out and talk. We do an excellent job here of vouching rumors when they come out and if they start to look bogus they go. Rock has been posting stuff from his contact for a long long time and a lot of that stuff has been spot on (doesn't mean always a deal goes down as Rock says, but later it comes out that the Sox did consider, XYZ, etc). I AM SORRY ROCK RAINES FOR INSULTING YOUR SOURCE (caps because I'm shouting) AND I WILL NEVER EVER EVER QUESTION YOUR SOURCE AGAIN. I HAVE HAD ENOUGH, PLEASE CALL THE MOB BACK. :notworthy Size 7 text, bolded, italicized, underlined, capped, and there's even smileys in that s***. What more can I do? Edit: I DID NOT MEAN TO INSULT YOU EITHER BUT I DID. CLEARLY I'M A f***HEAD. MY INTERNET ASSHOLE HAS SEEN THE GIANT GRANITE DILDO OF SOXTALK AND I SHALL NEVER SAY ANYTHING LIKE THAT AGAIN. PLEASE DO NOT EVER LEAVE THIS SITE OR WITHHOLD INFORMATION FROM ANYONE HERE, EXCEPT ME BECAUSE I DESERVE IT. I'M NOT BEING SARCASTIC EITHER. MY VIRTUAL ASS IS BLEEDING. LEAVE ME ALONE!!!! :notworthy Okay, that should make up for 103's post above, right? Right???

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Feb 19, 2010 -> 11:25 AM) That is offensive. What's offensive? That, or the comment about his source being Santa Claus? Or both? Because (again) in both situations I wasn't attacking Rock personally, I was saying his source isn't worth anything.

QUOTE (bmags @ Feb 19, 2010 -> 11:24 AM) you don't have to say people when it's one dude. Exactly, it's just me, and I wasn't trashing Rock either. I already apologized for that earlier. I was questioning the validity of his source, not personally attacking the poster. And f*** JimH anyway. I don't even know who he is but trolling message boards and then threatening people over the internet is lame as s***.

God I hope Torres doesn't make the club. If we're taking a rookie LR then take Harrell. Agree with WC on Linebrink. Just him being here is a f***ing problem. Hopefully he has his nice first half and we can dump him before he goes all Linebrink on us again.

QUOTE (fathom @ Feb 19, 2010 -> 11:08 AM) Rock was dead on with the Viciedo stuff last offseason. If you folllow closely, you'll know what part of the front office his source works in. I must have missed that then. But if the rest of the board believes him then that's cool. Sorry, Rock.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Feb 19, 2010 -> 10:39 AM) And I can tell you that is not the case. An offer was made. Plus with this latest article, making it seem as if DET's offer is 1 year as well... then we're back to what it seems like - Damon is weighing the two one-year offers, and Boras is hoping one of the two teams blinks and ups the ante. Rock later said there was "no news", and that seems bad. Well, given the situation, no news is what I'd expect. The offers are on the table, Boras is hoping for one team to up the stakes, and if not, then Damon will take one of the two offers as-is. Nothing to report, until he takes an offer. We wait. Not to be a dick, but what is a source for then? I believe the quote was something like "people are running around." Okay, is there an office fire or something? Or are people just busy? Because if they're just busy, then no s***, it's a front office for a Major League team. Of course there's activity, I mean it's reported everywhere that the Sox are in the mix for Damon. Saying there is activity isn't news. I can claim I have a source and say the same thing. Isn't a source supposed to, at the very least, give a clear idea on how things are going, be they good or bad? If a source simply says there's no activity, just silence, then doesn't the entire value of this source come from his or her ability to accurately describe what this silence means? Any source that is that ambiguous isn't a source, it's just relatively informed speculation. Again, not trying to be a dick here, but the reason I said that is because I've seen these source comments before and they all seem to perfectly follow the tide of what is being reported in the national media. Anyone can do that. A source is only supposed to gain validity when it is consistently accurate and when it provides new, relevant information. People give Cowley s***, but the guy has sources. Maybe I've missed where Rock's source has revealed itself to be worthwhile, and if so, I truly apologize.